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Anonymous 17/06/11(Sun)08:35 No. 328 ID: 7fa261 [Reply]

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In four years, at an adjusted cost of just $130 billion, the US prevented war-devastated Europe from becoming a shithole for another half-century.

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Anonymous 17/07/18(Tue)05:19 No. 372 ID: 73f57f

And take more than they gave they did. I'm not disputing that. What I'm asking is, what better propaganda for the motherland if not showing off to the world its ability to not just prop up, but to make its satellites PROSPEROUS. What country wouldn't want to be in its good graces and under its wing? If the USSR had had the ability to do such a thing, the way America did, they probably would have. The exploitation they engaged in, as I see it, is in part A RESULT of their inability to compete with America. America didn't have any need for such behavior. So why would we engage in it? We stood nothing to gain from raping Western Europe. So why would we do that? You might say that, given how war-ravaged it was, there was nothing to take to begin with. But Eastern and Western Europe were equally war-torn. And yet the USSR still found something to pillage. The point is, we could have done the same, but we didn't need to. Helping Western Europe instead made us look infinitely better than the USSR on the world stage. I'm not saying that it was a purely cynical move. I am saying that it was only possible for us to do because we had the means, and that therefore it was a no-brainer. Any great power whose power was great enough to grant it the ability to do such an ostensibly benevolent thing would have done the same. We happened to be the only one that could.

Anonymous 17/07/18(Tue)09:04 No. 373 ID: e9f020

You could be right. Particularly about this:
>The exploitation they engaged in, as I see it, is in part A RESULT of their inability to compete with America
That's likely. It would have been great for them to have prosperous nations along their border, but they probably couldn't have sustained them--let alone the USSR itself. It was certainly more cost effective to strip their remaining resources, though not as profitable.
and this:
>You might say that, given how war-ravaged it was, there was nothing to take to begin with
Don't be too quick to put anything past the United States. We've done a good deal more than our fair share if international dickery, but only when the profits from doing so significantly overcame the costs. The USSR was willing to accept a thinner profit margin for immediate gains; we wanted countries that would depend on trade with us and be able to give us loans in the future.

It does seem very much like both sides took advantage of the opportunities they had to the fullest capacity they were able.

Why isn't anyone thinking like this in our Middle Eastern wars? Both sides keep swapping incompetency and half-measures while the situation only gets worse and the staggering costs continue to skyrocket.

Anonymous 17/07/21(Fri)12:37 No. 380 ID: 3b265d

Look on the bright side. Now that Russia has openly started killing citizens of the middle east, now they're going to discover what actual terrorism looks like, instead of just Putin's false flags.

They might even discover that their own citizens become disillusioned with being a perpetual underclass and start joining in.

Anonymous 17/07/05(Wed)19:33 No. 359 ID: e339bd [Reply]

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"A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people"

"He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers"

Anonymous 17/06/25(Sun)18:44 No. 350 ID: 88cae6 [Reply]

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Ok, go home!

Anonymous 17/06/25(Sun)18:45 No. 351 ID: 88cae6

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Listen, Ishmael, you're going to be charged with possession of a concealed firearm.

Anonymous 17/06/02(Fri)08:44 No. 319 ID: 374426 [Reply]

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The Democratic Party will run Hillary again in 2020.

There's no other explanation for their continued efforts to keep her in the limelight.

This is quite possibly the stupidest thing they could ever do to themselves and I cannot comprehend why they would persue such an obviously futile goal as putting Hillary Clinton in power.

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Anonymous 17/06/09(Fri)06:10 No. 326 ID: 46cd65

Now we're getting into the actual geographical and cultural divides that the political disagreements seem to follow.

Incidentally, if you need more arguments for state, county, and municipal rights, imagine what those assholes in the places you don't live will do when they pass laws that have no relevance to your own life and in fact make it more difficult.

Anonymous 17/06/09(Fri)08:40 No. 327 ID: 6aad31

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>imagine what those assholes in the places you don't live will do when they ... have no relevance to your own life and in fact make it more difficult
Which is Trump and the GOP in a nutshell.

Assholes in far away places with no grasp of anything approaching a modern society making everyone's lives more difficult because they think coal mining is going to take off or unskilled labor factory jobs are going to surge and a billion other fantasies that never will happen no matter who the fuck you elect.

Rather than adapt to the modern world they want to force everyone to return to the dark ages because they distrust anyone with an IQ over 40 who talks to them like a goddamn adult.

Anonymous 17/06/17(Sat)03:19 No. 337 ID: a870df

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We've already got that.

When local government passes laws that a GOP state government doesn't like, they write laws that invalidate the local ordinances. When state governments pass laws that the GOP federal government doesn't like, they try to write laws that invalidate state ordinances.

The GOP is only about local & state rights when they're some kneejerk topic the GOP agrees with. If you write something that's the opposite of their kneejerk then all local & state rights can go right the fuck out the window.

You will march in lockstep with your wealthy master race or they'll remove your voting rights.

Anonymous 17/06/13(Tue)17:57 No. 331 ID: b6b250 [Reply]

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Is Sarah Huckabee Sanders monotheism divinity guy?

Anonymous 17/06/13(Tue)19:50 No. 332 ID: b6b250

What are the political implications if the Principal Deputy White House Press Secretary is actually an artificially intelligent islamic postbot?

Anonymous 17/06/14(Wed)05:30 No. 333 ID: 8ba46b

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Next question.

Anonymous 17/06/14(Wed)15:58 No. 334 ID: fc9a30

Perfect trips, flawless victory.

Next question >>332

Anonymous 17/05/31(Wed)13:52 No. 317 ID: 2ca532 [Reply]

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Sorry guys, but our long national nightmare has come to an end. Trump just had a stroke.

All hail President Pence!

Anonymous 17/06/01(Thu)10:51 No. 318 ID: 2ca532

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Apparently Trump couldn't figure out how to delete a tweet on his new iPhone, so he's back on his old unpatched KitKat phone with the Russian-loaded rootkit.

Anonymous 17/03/16(Thu)11:46 No. 215 ID: 088518 [Reply]

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Dutch Trump lost today.

I think he lost because his hair wasn't up to the challenge.

In his views and ideals he fit right in with Trump but his hair certainly wasn't comparable.

This is why he lost.

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Anonymous 17/05/10(Wed)21:26 No. 299 ID: 1d7577

You can't defend a corrupt incompetent by pointing out another corrupt incompetent.

I bet you're the sort of guy who gets pulled over for speeding and tries to defend yourself by saying that guy was going faster than you.

Anonymous 17/05/10(Wed)23:24 No. 300 ID: 412291

You say this knowing full well Trump supporters do exactly that all the time.

but but but hillary

Anonymous 17/05/24(Wed)18:52 No. 310 ID: c6e683

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Anonymous 17/05/09(Tue)20:44 No. 294 ID: 1f7851 [Reply]

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What was Ted going for here? That was stupid.

She practically martyred herself in protest of the Muslim ban; nearly set off a feminist rally call.

Inquisitor Cruz: Remember thou that wicked thing thou hadst done, whence our beloved president was but young in his office? Ye witch and bedeviler! We'll have ye repent!

Anonymous 17/05/10(Wed)23:27 No. 301 ID: 412291

These two things generally belong together.

He's a smart guy, but he's not a clever guy. But he thinks he's clever. And that combination yields a lot of stupid acts.

Anonymous 17/02/27(Mon)12:47 No. 196 ID: eeb901 [Reply]

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>Dolezal said she’s only been offered jobs in reality television and porno flicks


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Anonymous 17/04/22(Sat)06:36 No. 264 ID: c9b63d

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He could run as a Republican too, just primary Trump right off the ballot.

Imagine the kind of colossal shitstorm Duck would have then.

Anonymous 17/05/06(Sat)05:45 No. 284 ID: 16582e

To bad Kanye is voting trump again in 2020 instead of running.

Anonymous 17/05/09(Tue)10:38 No. 292 ID: 412291

Kanye has 3 whole years to end up in a mental asylum.

For that matter, so does Trump.

Anonymous 17/05/08(Mon)13:47 No. 288 ID: 995628 [Reply]

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If it really is meant to happen, it will happen. You don't have to get all political about it.

Anonymous 17/05/09(Tue)07:11 No. 291 ID: e83956

>You don't have to get all political about it
That may be an impossible suggestion in a time where "the personal is political" is a common meme in some circles.

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