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Anonymous 17/03/14(Tue)18:18 No. 211 ID: 8ac136
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What if black lives don't matter?


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Anonymous 17/03/14(Tue)20:12 No. 212 ID: 80a7cb

then black people would get outraged at having their unique struggles marginalized when someone responds, "All lives don't matter."


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Anonymous 17/03/15(Wed)12:59 No. 214 ID: 9a2580

No lives matter.

Have you considered the significance of any individual life in the cosmos?

No lives matter.


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Anonymous 17/04/05(Wed)01:26 No. 229 ID: 8e1588
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>>214
Oh my god. You people just can't let the black man have anything, can you? The black man can't be worthless. No, EVERYONE has to be worthless! Well guess what, shitlord. Black people have to worry about being worthless more than whites. You get to sit in you nice suburb where you can do something meaningful, while the black man is forced to live in a poor neighborhood where he can do something meaningful but instead just drinks and hollers at white women. You will never understand what it is like to face the barrel of a cops gun because you will be an upstanding member of society who will have complied with authorities well before the need to uses such force. Why don't you take a second to check your privilege and then tell me who's lives don't matter.


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Anonymous 17/04/05(Wed)19:45 No. 231 ID: f01b0f

>>229
wtf are you even talking about?


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Anonymous 17/04/06(Thu)02:27 No. 232 ID: f01b0f
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>>229


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Anonymous 17/04/06(Thu)03:58 No. 233 ID: a870df
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>>231
I'm pretty sure he was trying to be sarcastic... and failed miserably at it.

Probably his low IQ caused by racism.


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Anonymous 17/04/06(Thu)04:13 No. 234 ID: f8bc7d

>>231
>>233
See, you can't even understand the struggle. You white cis straight male assholes.


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Anonymous 17/04/06(Thu)22:13 No. 235 ID: 705039
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>>234
One man understands struggle. A gay man hiding in the clothes of an autocrat.


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Anonymous 17/04/23(Sun)19:57 No. 271 ID: 7861f9

>implying we even bought the whole ideal that they matter.


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Anonymous 17/05/03(Wed)12:18 No. 278 ID: 2194e8

>>271
>implying anyone's life matters


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Anonymous 17/05/06(Sat)12:40 No. 285 ID: d960d2
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>>229
>let
Nobody gives you anything. You have to make it yourself
>You will never understand what it is like to face the barrel of a cops gun because you will be an upstanding member of society who will have complied with authorities well before the need to uses such force.
So, I should make them shoot me then complain that it was about my race?


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Anonymous 17/05/07(Sun)14:12 No. 286 ID: 412291

>>285
>should make them shoot me then complain
You can't complain, you're dead.


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Anonymous 17/08/04(Fri)09:32 No. 403 ID: 50f697

>>234
it's a joke, hun


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Anonymous 17/08/14(Mon)03:28 No. 415 ID: 9fd7e5

Speaking of lives and their not mattering, there's been a bit of a ruckus in the same metropolitan area that's responsible for Chris-chan.


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Anonymous 17/08/15(Tue)10:33 No. 416 ID: 6abe6b
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>>415
Not surprising, Chris-chan is a human black hole of suck. Nothing can resist the pull towards his shit, not SJWs, not police helicopters, not even white supremacy itself.

They were doomed the moment they set foot in his state.


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Anonymous 17/08/18(Fri)08:23 No. 417 ID: 6abe6b
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>>415
On the plus side, it has led to some good art.


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Anonymous 18/01/10(Wed)22:37 No. 533 ID: 7b1e4d

>>229
Blacks are just worthless period. Look at their behavior patterns over the last 150 years. They act like sodomite apelings. Like they're still in the jungles of africa. They need to go back there.

Alternatively, I think that if Black lives mattered to blacks, they'd be out killing gang-bangers and drug runners instead of complaining about cops doing their jobs.


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Anonymous 18/01/11(Thu)08:52 No. 534 ID: bcc440

>>533
Agreed!

Blacks also bitch and complain about racism when they truly are the most racist beings on the planet.


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Anonymous 18/01/11(Thu)17:42 No. 535 ID: 03e1c9

>>533
>complaining about cops doing their jobs.

Black youth gets shot to death in front of 20 people.
Everyone knows the victim and the shooter.
Noone says a thing.

"Cops need to do their jobs! They don't care about black people!"


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Anonymous 18/01/11(Thu)23:55 No. 536 ID: a870df

>>535
>Everyone knows the victim and the shooter. Noone says a thing.
To be completely fair, that's just southern culture.


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Anonymous 18/01/13(Sat)08:41 No. 540 ID: bcc440

>>536
Nobody wants to be a snitch because snitches get stitches.


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Anonymous 18/01/13(Sat)09:38 No. 542 ID: 1422fe

>>540
Gotta justify spending 50% of your income on firearms somehow.


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Anonymous 18/01/17(Wed)12:12 No. 543 ID: bcc440

>>542
That is true. The only good nigger is a dead one.


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Anonymous 18/02/24(Sat)11:03 No. 558 ID: 590f5b
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>>543
Funny how conservatives started to support gun legislation once the black panthers started hoarding guns.

Fucking pussies.


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Anonymous 18/03/06(Tue)11:57 No. 563 ID: d0677f

>>558
Conservatives have never supported gun legislation.


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Anonymous 18/03/08(Thu)01:25 No. 564 ID: a870df

>>563
The world existed before you were born, teenage girl.

Conservatives used to mock the radical faction that took over the NRA, for pushing the alternative view of the 2nd amendment that current pseudo-conservatives accept as fact.


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Anonymous 18/03/19(Mon)17:00 No. 566 ID: 4089f6

>>564
What a party "used to do" is largely irrelevant to two parties that have no problem pandering and/or adapting to changing opinions.


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Anonymous 18/03/20(Tue)11:03 No. 567 ID: 16e8f6

>>566
>no problem pandering and/or adapting to changing opinions
That's right, they'll say anything; be anything to stay in power.

Stop electing these shits who never keep their promises. If we want our government to respond to us, we have to demonstrate that it is responsible to us. Just once, we have to elect a president from another party. Any other party, to show the ruling parties they will be held accountable for their failure.


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Anonymous 18/03/21(Wed)03:00 No. 569 ID: 4089f6

>>567
Yeah, that's easy enough to say. However, you've met those individuals that refuse to vote for a third party because it feels like a wasted vote when no one votes for third parties, though it wouldn't be a waste if enough people had the balls to vote for them. Give the world your best counterargument against that.


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Anonymous 18/03/21(Wed)12:59 No. 571 ID: a77f7d

>>569
>Give the world your best counterargument against that.
Those people are stupid.

That is honestly the most profound argument I can make against it, and it depresses me to know it has no weight and will never convince them to stop voting against their own prosperity. I don't think argument is an effective method to encourage these people to act in their own interest; it's like telling a heroin addict that drugs are bad.

I'd rather there were an alternative to violence, eugenics, etc. to change the ratio of people who are willing to do something for themselves agaisnt people who think "woking the system from the inside" has ever worked, but talk isn't it.

What does one do when the vast majority lack the initiative to act in their own best interest? All I can do is keep spamming the truth here and every other part of the internet I visit: the two major parties only care about staying on top together; most any political gripe anyone alive has ever had was against the members or actions of one of those two parties if not both--the only way to be sure US democracy* works at all, at this point, is to elect a president from another party.

*I am painfully aware that the US is not a 'democracy', but a 'republic' that purports itself to be "democratic". This is yet another truth that is very difficult to communicate to other people in the United States because most of them lake the intellect to distinguish the two and/or slept through Civics and History in school.


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Anonymous 18/03/22(Thu)22:34 No. 577 ID: c69d68

>>571
>lake
*lack
Goddamn autocorrect.


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Anonymous 18/03/23(Fri)04:45 No. 578 ID: 195cb2
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>>571
>agaisnt people who think "woking the system from the inside" has ever worked
Uh, but it clearly has, time and time again.

For a blindingly massive example just look at the Republican party.

The Republican party championed abolition to the point of civil war. It championed civil rights to the point of sending troops into schools and businesses.

The people they vehemently opposed just 10 to 20 years earlier were taken in with open arms. The focus of the entire party changed in less than a decade because it was taken over from within.

Similarly the Democratic party underwent a similar change a few years earlier. All those people who became Republicans? Who had spent their lives opposed everything the Republican Party stood for? They used to be Democrats. They were expunged en-masse by people working within that party.

If you're going to make this argument, you had better actually have some history on your side rather than bullshit that you tell yourself to not actually do anything useful with your time.

Find some candidate you believe in and join their campaign team. Come on you antisocial pricks, fucking go out there and find someone. Then you could actually have some real world experience to displace the bullshit you have now. A candidate doesn't limit you to D or R, it can be anyone.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but there are political operatives spamming nonsense through social media and other online forums intending to keep people like you locked up and useless. Stop parroting their talking points and start physically doing something. Stop swiping right and left. Put down your cell phone. Leave your basements.


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Anonymous 18/03/24(Sat)17:06 No. 579 ID: dc4125

>>578
>it clearly has
>The focus of the entire party changed in less than a decade because it was taken over from within
>They were expunged en-masse by people working within that party
Perhaps I should ammend my statment: it's never worked for any beneficial purpose. It only seems to work for people who want to shit things up. Although, no I haven't really looked it up; I only have my real-world experience to rely on--trying to work a bad system for a good purpose usually fails.

>Stop parroting their talking points and start physically doing something.
I'm happy you posted this, because it's true, and they've probably been here too. I am not one of them. It may not sound very original, but I don't think you'll find many people who share my point of view. I'm rather used to being the only person who ever says or thinks the things I say and think--been that way my whole life.

As for physically doing something, this is physically doing something. Just like those spambots attempt to sway public opinion with their spam, I'm trying to get a message out to an audience that might be receptive to it. Also, I vote.

As for making my ideal manifest; I often find myself thinking about the kinds of minor party coalitions you see in Europe--especially in Germany. There's no single third party in the United States with the financial resources or membership to compete against the two major parties. The most likely path to a real victory would be to have a "coalition primary" and pit the various third party candidates against each other as early as the major parties are having their primaries. The victor would become the coalition's candidate, with some agreement as to how that candidate will be able to represent the multifaceted values of the coalition in office (ie, as president they lead the nation according to the policies of their own party, but agree to give other--qualified--coalition candidates voices and roles in their administration).

The system itself is quite broken however, and stacked against the chances of any non-Republican or Democratic candidate from ever winning. Without proportional representation in most state's electoral colleges, the popular vote is nigh on meaningless. I could imagine a third-party candidate becoming popular enough to win a majority of the popular vote nationwide, and in a majority of states, but if they don't get the majority in a few specific states they still lose.


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Anonymous 18/03/25(Sun)13:06 No. 580 ID: 9d4072
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>>579
The old "my point was exposed as bullshit so I'm going to change my point" play. (yawn)


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Anonymous 18/03/26(Mon)12:58 No. 583 ID: 111421

>>580
I was trying to offer a concession to your counterpoint. If you'd rather I stick hard and fast to mine, I can do that too: Trying to work the system from the inside doesn't work. Expoiting a bad system to make something worse does, but trying to change a bad system into a good one without resorting to abolishing the original system never has.


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Anonymous 18/03/26(Mon)22:26 No. 584 ID: a870df

>>579
>As for physically doing something, this is physically doing something.
No it is not.


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Anonymous 18/04/04(Wed)16:33 No. 600 ID: 4089f6

>>584
How much coordinated shitposting is necessary before it reaches the level of "doing something?" If scandals about Russians and Cambridge Analytica are to be believed, there is a level where people can be influenced by what's posted online, but one person armed with nothing more than an opinion on a chan is a slacktivist. Where's the crossover point?


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Anonymous 18/04/05(Thu)09:16 No. 601 ID: 9c21c5

>>600
>Where's the crossover point?
Legitimate question is legitimate.

>one person armed with nothing more than an opinion on a chan
Let's call it the strategy of least effort. This is the absolute minimum of energy and capital one can expend on this type of propaganda campain. I'm sure there's a correlation between investment and success, but that's not to say with certainty that greater investment always leads to greater success. However unlikely, if other shitposters come to share my opinion, and propagate it through futher shitposts, the snowball effect could be as effective as any professional campaign.

Onward, for science!


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Anonymous 18/04/06(Fri)02:53 No. 602 ID: a870df

>>600
>How much coordinated shitposting is necessary before it reaches the level of "doing something?"
It's an infinitely recursive value, you never can actually do anything without dragging your tubby butt out of a chair and going off and meeting like-minded people who will work with you on the goal you all share by repeatedly dragging their tubby butts out of chairs and actually doing things in that scary place you know as the real world.

Its kind of like what happens in Russia except there it ends up in executions or arrests if you oppose the regime or their flunkies.



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