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Anonymous 18/04/09(Mon)01:54 No. 608 ID: 79b576
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I support the second amendment rights of all US citizens, and this is somehow unpopular.


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Anonymous 18/06/04(Mon)00:15 No. 819 ID: ead321
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>>818
>People who are unfamiliar with a subject should not be dictating policy on it.
Come down off your fucking high horse you ridiculously smug twat. It's not rocket science or high energy physics its just firearms. Almost everyone born since the 1700s has an understanding of how firearms work and how to use them. You are not smart because you know how to use a gun - everyone knows how to use a gun. That's why children keep getting murdered by other children in school. Because it doesn't take a law degree to understand guns.

Nobody gives a shit about the extremely cryptic ways you like to discuss types of guns, because they're inconsequential to the real world topic of guns. That you think they matter is evidence of just how far down the NRA rabbit hole you've gone.

>You can stop acting like you care about safety and people because you're obviously a bastard
Actually no we actually do care about safety and people, which is why we want a sociopath like you to get it over with and kill yourself already. Given your unhealthy fixation on firearms and inability to think for yourself this is only going to end one of two ways - either you intentionally murder another person or you unintentionally murder another person, after which the result is the same - you eat your gun. We want to skip the murder part, since we actually care about other people, and encourage you get on with the inevitable result. It's better for the rest of us, its better for the people you murder, and, really, its better for you.

>It's a republic
Yeah, we've all heard you recite the pledge of allegiance before, but did you know the republic wasn't included in the original versions of the pledge because nobody got a hard-on about the differences between a representative democracy and a direct democracy until some stupid fucking twat like you came along and forced it to be changed and forced children to recite it until twats like yourself were raised thinking that's just how it always was and nobody but you is capable of remembering the pledge of allegiance. You idiotic autistic anal douchebag.


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Anonymous 18/06/04(Mon)03:44 No. 820 ID: d68a6d

>>819
>everyone knows how to use a gun.

You've never used a gun before.

>Actually no we actually do care about safety and people

Suuuuuuuure you do.

>nobody but you is capable of remembering the pledge of allegiance

That's sad.


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Anonymous 18/06/04(Mon)18:38 No. 821 ID: 8ab00e

>>820
>You've never used a gun before.
I can't speak for >>819, but I have. I was trained on rifles in the Boy Scouts and learned handguns from a friend and an uncle around age 12. Most of that training: how to handle the gun when not firing it, how to shoot more accurately. An ape could pick one up and fire it.

>Suuuuuuuure you do.
Well, not your safety in particular, but wouldn't you like to have the peace of mind to know that no one is ever going to shoot you? You may find this hard to belive, but there are countries out there where people aren't worried about being shot by criminals, psychopaths, or police--even though people still have their hunting rifles and shotguns or whatever. The US is practially a war zone compared to most first-world countries.

>That's sad.
No, clinging to propaganda as if it were for your benefit is sad.

>>818
>It's a republic.
It's a disaster. It's also a de facto corpoate oligarchy. Get the lobbyists out of DC, then we can have something like a representational democracy.


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Anonymous 18/06/05(Tue)00:49 No. 822 ID: a870df

>>821
>It's a disaster. It's also a de facto corpoate oligarchy. Get the lobbyists out of DC, then we can have something like a representational democracy.
Outlawing Citizens United would be a good first step, in which the conservative majority decided that money = speech and corporations = people. It's not enough but it'd a good first step, because without getting rid of CU the cockroaches are just going to keep coming back.


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Anonymous 18/06/06(Wed)01:08 No. 823 ID: 01d998

>>821
>An ape could pick one up and fire it.

Yeah. Probably shoot his own dick off.

>wouldn't you like to have the peace of mind to know that no one is ever going to shoot you?

I have grown up and lived most my life in one the most "dangerous" cities in the US. I take public transit and walk around at all times of the day and night.

Not only have I never been afraid for my life, but also have yet to witness a shooting.

>You may find this hard to belive, but there are countries out there where people aren't worried about being shot by criminals, psychopaths, or police

If you're referring to countries in the EU, they probably should worry more before they get stabbed or acid in the face or run over by a truck.

>No, clinging to propaganda as if it were for your benefit is sad.

And that is one of the many reasons no one with any sense will ever take you or your bullshit agenda seriously.

>It's a disaster.

Maybe read less opinion based online articles and visit the US once in awhile, then you might see that you're an idiot.


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Anonymous 18/06/06(Wed)21:34 No. 824 ID: ead321
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>>823
>Not only have I never been afraid for my life, but also have yet to witness a shooting
And yet you cling to guns for protection.

Its ironic that the lower the crime rate falls the more strident the calls for 2nd amendment absolutism have become.

Also
>Anyone who disagrees with me must not live in the US
Get an original thought inside your head for once, stop letting Russia tell you how to think.


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Anonymous 18/06/06(Wed)23:03 No. 825 ID: a870df

>>823
>Yeah. Probably shoot his own dick off.
Here's a word for you to learn.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshedding

It perfectly encapsulates the entirety of your life experience.


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Anonymous 18/06/07(Thu)02:10 No. 826 ID: d124bc

>>823
>Yeah. Probably shoot his own dick off.
I didn't say safely; which was the point, that I will now explicitly explain to you as you obvioulsy cannot make deductions on your own: children kill people, and themselves, with guns because no one needs any training to fire one--they need training to do it properly, and every gun within reach of the hands of a person without that training is a danger to themselves and society.

Anything else you should already know that I could teach you for the upteenth time again?

>Not only have I never been afraid for my life, but also have yet to witness a shooting.
>I take public transit and walk around at all times of the day and night.
Why do you point this out then? Is it dangerous to take public transit and walk around day or night in your area? You wouldn't mention it if you didn't think so. You think so. You live in a society where being in public is presumed to be dangerous. You are afraid for your life; you probably always have been. You're so accustomed to it that you don't even notice.

>they probably should worry more before they get stabbed or acid in the face or run over by a truck.
That's some nice whataboutism you've got there. Any other fallacies you'd like to uselessly spew out while you're at it? As if there are not knives, acid, and trucks everywhere on the damn planet...

>visit the US once in awhile
Ok, I know there's Scouting International, but how many countries' Boy Scouts do you imagine offering rifle training to 12-year-olds?

>>822
>Outlawing Citizens United
Yes, that would be a good start.


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Anonymous 18/06/07(Thu)20:14 No. 828 ID: 1b48d1

>>826
>Anything else you should already know that I could teach you for the upteenth time again?

Yeah, why is this debate online solely about guns?

Why has the board of education not recommended common sense safety measures yet while everyone politicizes this?

Such as:
Inside locks on external school doors during class
Direct alarms to the police department, like fire alarms except for shootings, for each school
Locks on classroom doors
Having a neighborhood cop patrol the area, specifically for this kind of incident.
Metal detectors
Having a plan in place.

There doesn't even have to be any guns involved.

>Is it dangerous to take public transit and walk around day or night in your area? You wouldn't mention it if you didn't think so. You think so.

Everyone thinks so. It's the inner-city of Chicago.

>As if there are not knives, acid, and trucks everywhere on the damn planet...

That's kind of the point. That these attacks are unavoidable from a standpoint of controlling the weapons.

Prohibition has never worked here and nobody is going to pay for the cost of background checks and maintaining the largest and most disorganized database of random federal and state felons, anyone who's ever been committed to either a private or public hospital, and anyone declared unfit by a private practitioner.
That's just baseline, too. It doesn't include maintenance, HIPPA compliance, false positives, errors, hardware, accessibility, fees, updates, and a million more issues.
All for a sociological experiment that has no basis in a country like ours.

Might want to try another route than changing a constitutional amendment, if your goal really is to keep people safe.


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Anonymous 18/06/08(Fri)05:20 No. 829 ID: 1882fb

>>828
>There doesn't even have to be any guns involved
This is actually a great idea. Why isn't something like this getting done? Probably because no federal or state education budget will ever afford it to them and also because the NRA won't allow any legislation that doesn't make profit for their gun-manufacturing overlords to pass.

>Everyone thinks so.
I know it's really hard for you to hear me that deep in this shit, but people don't have to live that way. Lots of people around the world don't.

>That these attacks are unavoidable from a standpoint of controlling the weapons
So don't even bother trying? That's not going to work either. The point of gun regulation is to reduce the number of people murdered, not do away with violence itself. How many times in this thread have we been over this? There will always been people who are angry, crazy, and stupid; some of them will kill other people and possibly themselves; they don't need guns to do it--but without guns the number of peole killed will be less.

>Prohibition
>changing a constitutional amendment
FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME: NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THAT BUT YOU.

THE FIRST REPLY TO THIS THREAD: >>609
>No reasonable person wants to take it away from you

How many times can we have the same exchange? How many times? How many god damn times?


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Anonymous 18/06/08(Fri)07:38 No. 830 ID: 60ac52

>>829
>How many times can we have the same exchange? How many times? How many god damn times?

Until you come up with an idea for gun control that isn't retarded.

Not retarded meaning:
1. Doesn't require mass amounts of people to alter their lives to accommodate it.
2. Doesn't cost an obscene amount of money or require a national database
3. Has proven, effective results in a country like the United States


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Anonymous 18/06/09(Sat)01:04 No. 832 ID: a870df

>>830
>like the United States
That would be nice if you would accept places like Australia as being similar to the United States.

But no, you don't. You insist that only the United States is like the United States. And then, in a paradoxical twist of logic that strains incredulity, you demand that we have proof that a particular method works in the United States even though you support organizations like the NRA which actively prevent any and all evidence-based testing on the smallest of possible scales. That means there is no way of implementing the scheme you demand we implement.

At this point I'm fairly certain you're either a troll or a complete moron. Possibly both, but the more you write the more it's coming down on the latter.


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Anonymous 18/06/09(Sat)12:26 No. 833 ID: b0d4fc

>>832
>That would be nice if you would accept places like Australia as being similar to the United States.

Ahahahahahaha no

>you support organizations like the NRA

You keep saying that, but since I'm not an NRA member and pay nothing to them, I'd say they're supporting me at this point.


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Anonymous 18/06/09(Sat)14:09 No. 834 ID: 5cd1d7

>>833
>I'd say they're supporting me at this point.
I wouldn't put it past them to hire a few trolls to spread their ideology on the Internet. This is a post-truth world, and whether we like it or not 7chan is a social media platform. The Russians' postbots stopped by to spread alt-rightism in 2016. This kind of propaganda campaign is becoming the norm.


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Anonymous 18/06/09(Sat)22:48 No. 835 ID: 2dac6b

>>834
>I wouldn't put it past them to hire a few trolls to spread their ideology on the Internet.

They don't need to.


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Anonymous 18/06/10(Sun)01:57 No. 837 ID: 822fd0

>>835
That doesn't mean they wouldn't, and as this thread clearly demonstrates there are still some audiences not yet receptive to the inane bullshit that is their message.


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Anonymous 18/06/10(Sun)13:56 No. 838 ID: 10a142

So let's sum up.

OP lives in Chicago. He gets taunted by his extremist right wing online peers about not being able to buy a gun. So he uses this thread to vent his irrational emotional frustration about not being able to be an equal member of the group of deplorables he calls friend.

I suggest OP move across the border to Gary, Indiana. No gun laws there and because of that it's an absolute paradise.


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Anonymous 18/06/10(Sun)15:46 No. 839 ID: 23171c

>>838
>extremist right wing online peers

Lol you guys just can't accept someone with different views, can you?
It's really intolerant and pathetic.

So, let's sum up. You're an idiot.

You can buy guns in Chicago.


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Anonymous 18/06/11(Mon)10:48 No. 840 ID: 10a142

>>839
>Lol you guys just can't accept someone with different views, can you?
Different views, sure.

Your views aren't different. They're asinine. That's why you get mocked.

Maybe some day you'll grow up and find a pair of balls someone's wife discarded. Until then you'll just keep parroting the same old tired debunked bullshit because you're too afraid to think for yourself.


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Anonymous 18/06/11(Mon)18:46 No. 841 ID: e41b6d

>>840
>debunked

Where?

>think for yourself

I am. Can you say the same?


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Anonymous 18/06/12(Tue)18:22 No. 844 ID: 9c72ea

>>841
Oh the miracle of the Internet: no argument ever need be lost.

No matter how many times you are proven wrong or by how many different people or in however many different ways, you can just pick right up where you left off and keep going on.

Ammosexuality isn't going to win here; accept it and find something better to do with your time--like swallowing a .45 GAP.


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Anonymous 18/06/13(Wed)06:32 No. 845 ID: 70c286

>>844
>proven

Unfortunately, your sad feelings aren't proof of anything.


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Anonymous 18/06/14(Thu)00:40 No. 846 ID: a870df

>>845
Your constant IP changes are proof that you're a paranoid android.


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Anonymous 18/06/14(Thu)08:18 No. 848 ID: 89d2b1
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>833
>Ahahahahahaha no
I can't help but go back to this.

You demand that any solution implemented be first proven as being workable in the United States.

You further demand that no solutions be implemented here unless they meet your first demand.

And finally you don't think that any country is similar enough to the United States to qualify as an example.

In other words, based on your logic, there is no solution capable of meeting your approval.

Not even your NRA wet dream solutions meet your demands so I really don't understand why the fuck you're even trying to propose them.

Which is why we all know you're getting money from the NRA, you disingenuous idiotic manchild who only graduated from K12 by having daddy bribe his teachers.


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Anonymous 18/06/14(Thu)17:53 No. 850 ID: 9fbf2d

>>848
>And finally you don't think that any country is similar enough to the United States to qualify as an example.

I didn't say that. I said Australia is nothing like the United States.
1. It's an island with no inland civilization or neighboring countries.
2. It's a democratic constitutional monarchy that still recognizes the Queen of England as the Queen of Australia.
3. A million other differences.

Two countries off the top of my head that more closely resemble the US are Brazil and RSA.
How's gun control going there?

>Not even your NRA wet dream solutions meet your demands so I really don't understand why the fuck you're even trying to propose them.
>Which is why we all know you're getting money from the NRA

You must be special


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Anonymous 18/06/14(Thu)20:21 No. 851 ID: a870df
851

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>>850
>Two countries off the top of my head that more closely resemble the US are Brazil and RSA.
A stupid statement demands a stupid meme.


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Anonymous 18/06/14(Thu)21:31 No. 853 ID: f871fd

>>851
I said more closely resembles the US, not identical.

Ethnically diverse, urban and rural, independent republics, mainland countries with large populations and economies.

If you think Australia is like the US, you're retarded.


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Anonymous 18/06/15(Fri)04:49 No. 854 ID: 94acd6
854

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>>850
>special
Says the guy with the argumentative skills of a four year old.

This is part of a series on covering your ears, closing your eyes, and screaming: >>684 >>709


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Anonymous 18/06/17(Sun)12:42 No. 856 ID: 47101f

>>854
If that were the case, I'd just be typing SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED over and over again.

You're welcome.


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Anonymous 18/06/17(Sun)17:23 No. 857 ID: c259d7

>>856
That's not what you've been doing through this entire thread?


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Anonymous 18/06/18(Mon)16:18 No. 858 ID: 91e960

>>857
He's special


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Anonymous 18/06/20(Wed)14:18 No. 861 ID: 236f1f

>>857
Shall not!
>>858
You're a literal retard.


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Anonymous 18/06/21(Thu)01:33 No. 862 ID: a870df

>>857
Its not his fault. If he deviates from his script he won't get paid.


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Anonymous 18/08/22(Wed)20:45 No. 894 ID: 73dd3f
894

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Anonymous 18/08/23(Thu)08:03 No. 895 ID: a320f9

>>894
>Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-California) holds an AK-47 with a modified shoulder stock and ammunition drum during a 1999 news conference in Washington D.C. Feinstein was seeking a federal ban on high-capacity ammunition clips. She didn’t get it.


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Anonymous 18/08/31(Fri)17:20 No. 905 ID: 55c4a9

>>895
Lol she's pointing that possibly loaded gun at that crowd to her left and her finger is on the trigger.
Pretty unsafe for someone advocating for gun safety laws.


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Anonymous 18/09/02(Sun)20:18 No. 907 ID: 49a141
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>>905
>possibly
Found the Trump voter.


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Anonymous 18/09/10(Mon)00:37 No. 909 ID: 4d2170

>>907
I didn't vote for Trump, and I don't much care for him either. Why would "possibly" mean I'd vote for Trump?

Interesting propaganda. What're they basing that on? My state has numerous Democrats that have been impeached, indicted, and imprisoned.


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Anonymous 18/09/12(Wed)16:43 No. 911 ID: ef2a68

>>909
Hey may have misinterpreted your ridiculous proposition that a gun being used as a prop might be loaded as soup-for-brains pro-gun propaganda... but then he posted his own soup-for-brains pro-democrat propaganda.

Did you vote at all? Were you legally able to vote?


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Anonymous 18/09/12(Wed)22:30 No. 912 ID: 5690ba

>>911
>ridiculous
You'd be surprised how dumb and irresponsible those people actually are.

Yes, but I left the presidential ballot blank as Trump is a lying, psychotic, fat, loud mouth New York idiot and Hillary Clinton is a lying Arkansas dumb ass larping as a New Yorker who looked like she would literally strangle a baby to become president.


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Anonymous 18/09/12(Wed)23:28 No. 913 ID: a870df
913

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>>912
>how dumb and irresponsible those people
As opposed to the responsible gun owners who keep loaded firearms in unlocked locations, whose their children shoot themselves, family members, neighbors, livestock, etc. on a regular basis.

Because, you know, government stormtroopers may break down their door at any moment blah blah blah blah blah


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Anonymous 18/09/13(Thu)12:45 No. 914 ID: 5690ba

>>913
Just a suggestion, but maybe you should spend less time reading partisan bullshit on Twitter and more time thinking for yourself.


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Anonymous 18/09/13(Thu)23:13 No. 916 ID: a870df
916

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>>914
Just a suggestion, but your hobbies should probably include situations where you interact with more people than just gun owners. The last company I worked at had exactly 2 gun owners out of over 150 employees, you guys really need to leave those cesspools you've decided to live in.

>twitter
This will probably come as a complete shock to you, but I'm not on twitter, nor do I read posts on it. It's a cesspool of conservatives and Russian bots complaining that the country sucks because of gays liberals immigrants joos and god knows who the fuck else.

I know, I just posted an image from there. But I didn't create the image nor did I capture it on twitter, it just percolated down to the places I visit. Like most of the world they aren't modern American conservative friendly places, so all kinds of content gets posted there from all kinds of sites, and yes, I know, it's all content that makes you cry and pout and claim that nobody who visits those sites can think for themselves.

You really need to get out more. Travel. Visit those places Trump complains about. Regularly.


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Anonymous 18/09/14(Fri)02:02 No. 917 ID: c212c7

>>916
1. I interact with quite a few people in a major urban area, so I doubt all of them are gun owners.
2. Not everyone that owns a gun advertises it, so how would you even know if you were interacting with a gun owner?
3. Lol just look >>907 >>913 same political twitter critic, same Trump talk... How can you possibly think your thoughts and opinions are your own?


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Anonymous 18/09/14(Fri)09:23 No. 918 ID: fdaf24
918

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>>917
You do realize that there's more than one person in this world who disagrees with your extremist viewpoints, right? Or do you think Dave follows you from site to site disagreeing with you everywhere?

Also, twitter images? As proof of being the same person? You clearly don't socialize much. Evidence of this is the fact that you don't have any idea how people would ever know if coworkers own guns. Some of us can hold down steady employment for more than 6 months.

Besides finding out someone's a gun owner is like finding out if someone's a vegan. They can't help but fall over themselves talking about how much they love it.

Just because the images make you cry and pout and claim nobody can think for themselves except you, they don't mean anything you've written, you're just the average overentitled gun nut dickwad.


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Anonymous 18/09/14(Fri)11:31 No. 920 ID: 527954

>>918
I'm not saying it's the same poster. It's the same guy in both images, you belligerent twat. The fact that it is two different posters saying essentially the same thing with the same "expert" quoted in both images is kinda my point.

Also, you thinking everyone acts the same about their interests says more about your social interaction than it does of mine.

I'm not entitled. It's a right.


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Anonymous 18/09/14(Fri)20:16 No. 921 ID: 1258da

>>912
>I left the presidential ballot blank
So you did not vote at all. You realize your incomplete ballot may not even have been counted for the things you did mark? Yes, that can happen; there are all sorts of ways for ballots to get thrown out.

There were more than two choices. You could have made a choice. Not voting is the reason everything sucks. Always make a choice, even if it's not the best one, choose something.

We have to get out of this polarized paradigm. Our options are not binary. Inb4ridiculeofthirdparties. If you want a third party with a serious platform and serious candidates, you have to get involved in one.

>>918
>do you think Dave follows you from site to site disagreeing with you everywhere
If only I could.


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Anonymous 18/09/14(Fri)21:21 No. 922 ID: 527954

>>921
>Not voting is the reason everything sucks.
>We have to get out of this polarized paradigm.
The reason everything sucks is the polarized paradigm that has been building in this country since 1964, in the form of increasing presidential power.


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Anonymous 18/09/15(Sat)03:42 No. 923 ID: 1258da

>>922
I agree.

The office of the president didn't just acquire power though, it was allowed to acquire power. I blame this on a sycophantic Congress, driven to undermine the system of checks and balances in order to keep the two major parties in power, and large number of potential voters who do not exercise their constitutional rights.

The way things are now, there will never be a 3/4ths referendum to amend the constitution for any purpose. The people are incapable of exercising what the founding fathers would have considered one of the most essential checks and balances in the constitution. Furthermore, the system of checks and balances itself is completely defunct due to partisan politics--it was not intended that the president would have a supporting, majority party in the Congress so that both could ignore their constitutional responsibilities; it was certainly not intended that the supreme court would be a partisan playing field.

The United States is wrecked, and the only way to fix it is to wake up the vast majority of people who don't give a shit and make them give a shit.


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Anonymous 18/09/15(Sat)19:01 No. 924 ID: 527954

>>923
Yeah, congress fucked up with the Gulf of Tokin Resolution giving the president power to finance a war no one wanted. Since then it's been a fiasco of exceeding authority on the part of the president.

That being said, I don't think the constitution really needs any amending.



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