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Anonymous 18/04/09(Mon)01:54 No. 608 ID: 79b576
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I support the second amendment rights of all US citizens, and this is somehow unpopular.


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Anonymous 18/04/30(Mon)12:08 No. 708 ID: f007af
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>>707
He's not entirely to blame for continuing to post through. People who get wedded into their little ideological bubble often times will react like he does to any attempt to break them out of that bubble. Furious anger and mindless rhetoric about how horrible everyone is that disagrees with their overly simplistic view of the world.

Like pointing out that crimes and deaths involving firearms always drop in states that host NRA conventions during the time of the convention. That it's not a one time aberration, the trend goes back for decades. All those firearm owners stripped of their weapons during much of the convention.

Facts like these and more are why he and the NRA are so terrified of federal research into firearm violence that they year after year write clauses into congressional bills to stop it from occurring. And when Obama forced the CDC to start investigating it they wholehog batshit insane, moving people like OP further into their little protective cocoons.


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Anonymous 18/04/30(Mon)12:31 No. 709 ID: 67518b
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>>708
Pic related: NRA emergency debate strategy: cover your ears, close your eyes, and scream about the consitution.


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Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)00:11 No. 710 ID: daa3d2
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>>707
>trolling you

Oh, that makes sense. Okay, I guess I'll disregard your bullshit and stop responding to you now.

>>708
More lies, huh? Pretty lame.


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Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)05:42 No. 712 ID: 4e4364

>>710
I like how you again avoided engaging in an actual discussion and disregarded reality all at once there.
Nice work NRA; shoop's not half bad either.


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Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)06:57 No. 714 ID: 7a86a4
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>>712
>I like how you again avoided engaging in an actual discussion and disregarded reality all at once there.

Obama said I didn't have to respond because you're dumb and don't matter.

>Nice work NRA; shoop's not half bad either.

Look closely and you'll notice that it's not shooped.


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Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)11:42 No. 715 ID: 4c997f

>>714
You have no reason to believe this but I am genuinely concerned about your mental illness. You should be in therapy; you should be on medication. I don't think you are a physical threat to anyone, but I am concerned that you have lost the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.


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Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)17:16 No. 717 ID: c212c7

>>715
What's your medical background again?
Nonexistent?


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Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)17:54 No. 719 ID: 3d0bd0

>>717
By the way, are you dbbs?


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Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)18:37 No. 720 ID: 4753e3

>>719
Why are you asking me? Ask Fraud Freud over here >>715


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Anonymous 18/05/02(Wed)06:40 No. 721 ID: f007af
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>>710
>More lies
Oh god, you really need to get out of your fantasy bubble in a while.

I was referencing a peer reviewed study that was published last week.

Given that you're so level headed and even keeled I'm surprised you hadn't heard about it, given that you're so interested in finding out the truth rather than just regurgitating the same old tired lines of bullshit the NRA has been feeding ammosexuals for years.

Pic related, its what you see at night that makes you clutch your firearms tight.


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Anonymous 18/05/02(Wed)08:38 No. 722 ID: f007af
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>>717
Anyone who would be driven to purchase a firearm because someone online else made fun of their lack of genitals isn't exactly the kind of person who should have easy access to firearms. The same kind of people can be driven to eat their firearm by reading online comments.

We're only thinking about your safety, since you clearly have trouble foreseeing the consequences of your decisions.


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Anonymous 18/05/02(Wed)13:28 No. 723 ID: 049883

>>721
>>722
You're trying too hard now.


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Anonymous 18/05/03(Thu)06:20 No. 724 ID: 8d577d

>Like pointing out that crimes and deaths involving firearms always drop in states that host NRA conventions during the time of the convention. That it's not a one time aberration, the trend goes back for decades. All those firearm owners stripped of their weapons during much of the convention.
>crimes and deaths involving firearms
>given that you're so interested in finding out the truth

It was on firearm related injuries, liar.

>fantasy bubble

Here's an excerpt:
>This observational study does not provide conclusive evidence about the NRA's influence on gun safety overall and "cannot be causally attributed to the meetings themselves"

So, yeah. More lies.


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Anonymous 18/05/04(Fri)08:44 No. 725 ID: f007af
725

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>>724
Well of course they said that, they don't want to run afoul of the dickey amendment.

They really make them slow in your part of the country, don't they?


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Anonymous 18/05/04(Fri)08:46 No. 726 ID: f007af

>>723
>replies to two different people
>trying too hard
So how many times do you perform fellatio on yourself each day?


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Anonymous 18/05/04(Fri)10:22 No. 727 ID: 4f680e

>>725
What part of the country are you from again?

>replies to two different people
Both your replies that have the same ID you have now >>726 replying to me trying really hard to elicit some emotional response.

You confusing yourself now caught up in your own retarded trolling?


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Anonymous 18/05/04(Fri)16:13 No. 728 ID: 11d5aa
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>>727
>trying really hard to elicit some emotional response
See that, that's what I mean by passive agressive [implied noun here]
ergo, passive agressive [tedancy,provocation,agression]
Level up your 3rd world English.
>>699

Live long, and arm yourself.


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Anonymous 18/05/04(Fri)18:26 No. 729 ID: cb8d58

>>728
>trying to use an adjective as a noun and defend it

Are you an English teacher?


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Anonymous 18/05/04(Fri)19:49 No. 730 ID: e1fd41

>>727
>Both your replies that have the same ID you have now
Confirmation that your family tree intersects with itself multiple times and you live in a compound in Montana/Utah filled with family members.

Go back and look at the two responses in question. Notice how they are replying to two different poster IDs. Notice how one could easily say they're replying to two different people.

Maybe, just maybe, the only one who's an idiot here is you, ammosexual. Maybe, just maybe, you could stop being an idiot if you stopped wasting so much time dreaming of all the ways you can murder your fellow citizens with your arsenal.


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Anonymous 18/05/04(Fri)19:53 No. 731 ID: e1fd41
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>>729
You completely missed that he misspelled aggressive. Twice.

So when do you graduate from elementary school?


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Anonymous 18/05/05(Sat)05:13 No. 732 ID: 94c1d6

>>729
>>731
>he misspelled aggressive. Twice.
You got me; I'm a failure. At least I can admit when I am wrong.


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Anonymous 18/05/05(Sat)07:53 No. 733 ID: e1fd41
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>>732
If that was true you'd have admitted it a long, long time ago.

Well, keep wetting the bed, little "man."


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Anonymous 18/05/05(Sat)14:37 No. 734 ID: e1fd41
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Anonymous 18/05/05(Sat)17:45 No. 735 ID: 8d4dbf

>>733
Lol now you're talking shit to the guy who's been on your side this whole time.

Why are you such a dumb aggressive asshole?

-OP (so you're not confused)


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Anonymous 18/05/06(Sun)03:16 No. 736 ID: d4e5d3

>>735
>now you're talking shit
This is what I've been trying to get you to understand: This is 7chan, everyone gets shit talked to eventually. If you're going to bleed out your anus and spittle while you scream about it every time, you're not going to make a strong impression.


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Anonymous 18/05/06(Sun)06:00 No. 737 ID: e1fd41
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>>735
>your side
You've clearly gotten me confused with one of your alternate personalities.

I think the 2nd amendment deserves to have constraints and limits on it like every other amendment.

And that gun manufacturers attempts over the past couple decades to make it more difficult to regulate the sale of firearms by breaking firearms down into component pieces and selling those components individually does not invalidate the requirement for reasonable constraints to be placed upon them.

The NRA doesn't give two shits about your safety or your rights. You are something for them to package up and sell to their actual customers, the firearm manufacturers. If you purchase a dozen firearms and use one to commit suicide neither the gun manufacturer or the NRA will feel even the slightest twinge of guilt about it. They wrung the money out of you, and that's all that matters to them.


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Anonymous 18/05/06(Sun)08:11 No. 738 ID: 8c21f8

>>737
>I think the 2nd amendment deserves to have constraints and limits on it like every other amendment.

1. It does have constraints.
2. Not every amendment has constraints. Can you imagine "constraining" the 13th,15th, or 19th amendment?
3. You're advocating for a known political strategy known as incrementalism.

>And that gun manufacturers attempts over the past couple decades to make it more difficult to regulate the sale of firearms by breaking firearms down into component pieces and selling those components individually does not invalidate the requirement for reasonable constraints to be placed upon them.

You're fabricating motives to demonize something that you're biased against.
If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
People demand customizations.

>The NRA doesn't give two shits about your safety or your rights. You are something for them to package up and sell to their actual customers, the firearm manufacturers. If you purchase a dozen firearms and use one to commit suicide neither the gun manufacturer or the NRA will feel even the slightest twinge of guilt about it. They wrung the money out of you, and that's all that matters to them.

I don't understand what you're trying to get at here. I don't give a shit about what the NRA or gun manufacturers want.
I want people to have more options to choose from and not less. If someone wants to buy a type of gun, then they should be able to do so.

I'm not sure why you think I would expect a corporation to feel guilty about an individual's choice to abuse their products.

McDonald's doesn't feel guilty about some fatass eating 25 cheeseburgers and dying.
Ford doesn't feel guilty because someone drives a truck off of a cliff.
Pharmaceutical companies don't care that people lie to get prescriptions and abuse their drugs.

Weren't you the one saying people are responsible for their own actions?


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Anonymous 18/05/06(Sun)12:17 No. 739 ID: 7c5cd4

>>738
>You're fabricating motives to demonize something that you're biased against.
Says the guy who thinks gun safety restrictions are a conspiracy to repeal the Second Amendment.

> the one saying people are responsible for their own actions
No, that was me. Though to be honest, I'm starting to think you make a case for mandatory institutionalization. I'm not sure you are competent to excercise free will.


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Anonymous 18/05/06(Sun)15:46 No. 740 ID: a072fa

>>739
>Says the guy who thinks gun safety restrictions are a conspiracy to repeal the Second Amendment.

Not really a conspiracy, it seems to be an open agenda item that can only be achieved through incremental "common sense" regulations.

Good marketing though "common sense" "safety"

>I'm starting to think you make a case for mandatory institutionalization.

I'm surprised you weren't already in favor of that. You must have grown up in California.
I'm sorry for you living your life thinking you're an enlightened intellectual, while in actuality being an ignorant moron afraid of options and responsibility.

>I'm not sure you are competent to excercise free will.

Yup. Sounds like you're the perfect judge of that. You should be the judge of everything and everyone.


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Anonymous 18/05/06(Sun)16:30 No. 741 ID: a45465

>>740
>You should be the judge of everything and everyone.
Well, I have always wanted to found my own sex cult.

You think I could hold it together? I have all my cult quarterlies: bible-belt indoctrination, psych 101, stagecraft, creative writing, choir, a profound misanthropy... All it takes is a few desperate, soft-minded individuals like yourself.

>be achieved
No one is trying to repeal the Second Amendment; no one. Trust me. This and other truths I will reveal to you brother, should you choose to accept them. Salvation awaits!


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Anonymous 18/05/06(Sun)17:32 No. 742 ID: e04de9

>>741
>No one is trying to repeal the Second Amendment; no one.

Doesn't really matter because those "common sense" regulations aren't going to make it past the house.

Luckily, facebook and twitter aren't an accurate representation of the American public.


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Anonymous 18/05/07(Mon)15:45 No. 743 ID: 4b9dd1

>>742
>common sense
I very specifically avoided using these terms: >>739
You conflated them >>740
They are not the same thing. Stop being so soft-brained. Don't just clump things together for expedience; think a little.

>regulations aren't going to make it past the house
I wish I could say you are wrong about everything, but you are right about this. Decades ago, the NRA purchased enough shares of Republican Party Inc. to more or less run the board. They may not be chairman, but they get what they want, and now that the Grand Old Sellouts are in power in two branches of the government, the NRA has a 66% share of the federal government's authority at its disposal.

This, to you, is somehow a good thing?


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Anonymous 18/05/07(Mon)18:59 No. 744 ID: a870df

>>743
If he wasn't soft brained he wouldn't need firearms.


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Anonymous 18/05/07(Mon)21:02 No. 745 ID: 488954

>>743
>think a little

That's rich coming from you.

>Decades ago, the NRA purchased enough shares of Republican Party Inc. to more or less run the board. They may not be chairman, but they get what they want, and now that the Grand Old Sellouts are in power in two branches of the government, the NRA has a 66% share of the federal government's authority at its disposal.

I'd say that's a good conspiracy theory, but conspiracy theories normally require at least some circumstantial evidence.

>This, to you, is somehow a good thing?

I'm no Republican, but if it keeps pseudo intellectual sociopaths like yourself from experimenting on the American Public with your baseless, half hatched theories, then yeah. It's a good thing.


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Anonymous 18/05/08(Tue)01:29 No. 747 ID: b973f8
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>>745
>if it keeps pseudo intellectual sociopaths like yourself from experimenting on the American Public with your baseless, half hatched theories
It doesn't. Where's your conservative god now?


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Anonymous 18/05/08(Tue)03:48 No. 748 ID: e1fd41
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>>745
>pseudo intellectual sociopaths
You can try to disassociate yourself from it all you want, but we all know you masturbate to thoughts of children being murdered with automatic weapons.


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Anonymous 18/05/08(Tue)09:13 No. 749 ID: 31f360

>>745
>evidence
The Republican party controls both the Legislative and Executive branches of the United States Government; that's 2/3rds, or 66.66~%; it's math. The NRA funds most of their candidates, it's true; look it up ಠ_ಠ/

Do I have proof the money buys them the influence they apparently have on government policy? No, but.... they have the influence, so... where there's smoke there's fire?

They get you for free, think what they'd pay people to say.


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Anonymous 18/05/08(Tue)20:12 No. 750 ID: c91c51

>>747
If you're referring to fb or any other tech companies data collection and manipulation of people's opinions, that's a choice.

Nobody is forcing idiots to get an fb. I don't have one.
Federal law is different for obvious reasons.

>>749
>The NRA funds most of their candidates, it's true; look it up

Don't need to. A lot of companies and organizations spend money on campaigns and lobbying, especially when congressional bills can directly affect their industry.

>Do I have proof the money buys them the influence they apparently have on government policy? No

Okay because the way you said they were all bought and paid for decades ago suggests that you were positive that it was a fact.

In reality, they don't spend that much compared to other organizations.

Total campaign contributions last year:
$357,668
ranks 514 of 15,385
Total spent on lobbying:
$5,122,000
ranks 82 of 3,513
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summary.php?id=D000000082&cycle=2018

>they have the influence
>They get you for free

Is it really so hard to imagine some people want guns and like the idea of hunting/target practice/home defense outside of some evil organization's master plan to promote things people like?

Is it ridiculous to think people want the option to buy semi automatic weapons without jumping through hoops for the government?

I believe NRA membership is around 3-5 million and gun ownership is around 75 million.

Am I doing the NRA's evil bidding or is it possible an organization exists that holds the same ideals as millions of other people?


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Anonymous 18/05/10(Thu)17:59 No. 752 ID: e1fd41
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>>749
To sum up OP:
1) He repeats all the talking points of the NRA
2) He repeats all the talking points of the GOP
But he isn't an NRA member or a Republican, and everyone who thinks otherwise are sheeple who watch CNN.


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Anonymous 18/05/11(Fri)14:59 No. 753 ID: 93cc1b

>>749
Btw you seem reasonable, though we disagree.

I don't know where you're getting these conspiracy theories from about the evil NRA/Republicans forcing their beliefs on people, but these >>752 are the types of rabid morons you encourage with that kind of talk and it makes political discourse near impossible.

>>752
I know a polarized CNN watching dipshit like yourself has never heard of an independent before, but that's what I am.
I'm conservative on this subject, but I'm liberal on several other issues.
For instance, I'm also prochoice.

Just because you need a fanatical party to tell you how to think doesn't mean we all do.


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Anonymous 18/05/12(Sat)13:32 No. 754 ID: f387da

>>753
>an independent
>I'm conservative
>I'm liberal
I'll believe you're independent when you stop conflating political faction with personal identity.

>conspiracy theories
It's not a conspiracy theory if Republican Congress gives the NRA what it wants every time, or for that matter any congress. The Democratic party hasn't done better. This is yet another issue in which bipartisianism itself is raping the American people right up their rectums: the two parties would rather blame each other for endangering either the people or the the union or both than do anything meaningful beyond satisfying their lobbyist overlords associates.

What has ended every round of this gun control debate with the status quo? The same stale debates:
Republican (pro NRA) vs. Democrat (also, indirectly, pro NRA)
2nd Amendment (NRA's wet dreams) vs. Common Sense (weaksauce, designed-to-fail "anti-gun" propaganda that ultimately doesn't disarm anyone)
Armed Teachers (When the bullets fly both ways; YAY!) vs. (Armed) Campus Officers (Drop on your swords, blue collar laborers!)
Armed bystanders (A right unused is no right at all; express your 2nd amendment psychosis by humping a lethal weapon everywhere you go...) vs. Voluntary nonarmament (maintain the right to bear arms, but establish a society of peace and law enforcement that preculdes lethal violence and the need to arm oneself in public).

All of these debates are zero sum; they will never get anywhere. The "left" argumentsare too dreamy or too inhumane, while the "right" arguments are all bull-headed and short-sighted. Sooner or later the NRA gets what it wants--whether it takes party-line passing a pro NRA policy through Republican Congress, or setting up a flawed "Democratic" policy predestined for a rousing reversal and shaming one or two presidents down the line.

Ultimately, the NRA thinks they already have the Constitution, and therefore the Supreme Court, on their side. If that were true, it would mean they presently have influence in three branches of the federal government; two through their sponsorship of the Republican Party, and one by their philosophical stance on the Second Amendment. If that Is false, they are just a private organization that openly purchases influence in the US government (they spend the money, they have the influence).


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Anonymous 18/05/13(Sun)10:15 No. 758 ID: e1fd41
758

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>>753
>CNN
Quick, bring up how it's all somehow Hillary and/or Obama's fault and you can have a GOP/NRA trifecta.

For all your whining about how everyone else is polarized and isn't putting any thought or research into the topic at hand, your inability to come up with something that isn't an NRA or GOP talking point (especially the long discredited ones) really defeats your argument.


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Anonymous 18/05/13(Sun)13:32 No. 759 ID: 2e95d1

>>754
>What has ended every round of this gun control debate with the status quo? The same stale debates

Not that I don't think both sides of those arguments are stale and immovable, but I was under the impression they've ended with the the status quo because nobody had any feasible ideas.

>Ultimately, the NRA thinks they already have the Constitution, and therefore the Supreme Court, on their side. If that were true, it would mean they presently have influence in three branches of the federal government; two through their sponsorship of the Republican Party, and one by their philosophical stance on the Second Amendment. If that Is false, they are just a private organization that openly purchases influence in the US government (they spend the money, they have the influence).

That's a leading statement. The NRA does have some influence, but if they had the kind of power you think they do, select fire and full auto would be widely accessible and unregulated.


>>758
No more yous for you until you say something of substance.


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Anonymous 18/05/13(Sun)18:51 No. 760 ID: 774a1c

>>759
>yous for you
Perhaps you have noticed the board mechanic to which you are referring is not present. This is because it is failchan faggotry.

>feasible
Compromise is feasible, which is precisely why the false bipartisan dichotomy was established: to prevent compromise. Gun control is just one of many cogs in the bipartisan machine that is squeezing the American people into poverty and early death.


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Anonymous 18/05/14(Mon)16:51 No. 761 ID: e1fd41
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>>759
One could say the same of you. Instead of actually having an honest discussion, you claim the moral high ground and a completely fictitious alternate history that the NRA came up with then sold you on lock, stock, and barrel.

Keep mentioning CNN and I'll start calling you Russian.


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Anonymous 18/05/25(Fri)06:55 No. 779 ID: c4f444

>>760
>This is because it is failchan faggotry.

How would you know?

>Compromise is feasible

I think this thread is proof that it's not.

>bipartisan machine that is squeezing the American people into poverty and early death

That's just untrue. People are more prosperous today than ever before and life expectancy is at an all time high.


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Anonymous 18/05/25(Fri)07:19 No. 780 ID: e4f5db
780

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>>779
>all time high
They murder us, poison us, and fatten us up for the feast and you still take their side.


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Anonymous 18/05/25(Fri)08:06 No. 781 ID: ead321
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>>780
It doesn't help that you spend your time lying through your teeth like you think nobody is smart enough to see through your bullshit.


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Anonymous 18/05/25(Fri)09:19 No. 782 ID: dcc3b0

>>780
>>781
>two uncited random charts
>first chart from who knows what year shows 3 choice driven lifestyles as the top causes of death

Last time I checked your senator and district rep weren't jamming burgers and cigarettes in your mouth...

>second chart has no information of what it's measuring

If it's firearms deaths, it's totally inaccurate.

Here's some actual figures regarding life expectancy from reputable sources and not twitter.

Average life expectancy 1980: 70 and 77 for males and females, respectively
http://www.demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html

Average of both sexes as of this year is 78.
http://fortune.com/2018/02/09/us-life-expectancy-dropped-again/

As for your bullshit firearms chart, I don't think countries like Mexico, where thousands are murdered by the cartels and state alike every year, keep accurate records.
In fact, I'd say few "shit hole" countries do.

The truth is things are fine in the US and you want something to crusade against because your life lacks meaning.

Move to another country if things are so terrible in the US, douche bag, then if you can, stop complaining about nothing.


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Anonymous 18/05/26(Sat)15:01 No. 788 ID: ead321
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>>782
>Last time I checked your senator and district rep weren't jamming burgers and cigarettes in your mouth
They weren't jamming cocks in your mouth yet you keep shoving them in there.

Stop molesting kids man, it's not cool.

>If it's firearms deaths, it's totally inaccurate.
Actually it is firearm deaths, and it's totally accurate.

Also, how the fuck don't you know how to reverse image search in 2018. Don't make me tell the nursing home to curtail your internet privileges.



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