Been on fatass for long, now I'm on buildfat I guess, more build and more fat than the guy on the pic... between buildfat and chubbyfat I must say.

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sorta built/skinny fat....

Somewhere in between chubbyfat, builtfat and fat as fatass.

Between skinny and skinnyfat

whats all o your goals?

Primarily Ottermode with Skinny Fat as a secondary.

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between skinnyfat and chubbyfat

I'm in need of a motivation to work my way to Skinny/Ottermode. I have fat on my belly and my body looks bad in general. Btw I've been following a diet for a year, dropped from 97kg to 82kg.

Anything particular you can advice me to do to become like

<- him ?

skinny or ottermode

>>8961

I've been drinking a lot of coke, which has sugar, so I switched to zero, which has no calories. I've stopped eating junk food, potato chips, mcdonalds, chocolate, simply everything that has too many calories. I try to eat nesfit or K special when I'm hungry(except when there is something to eat) and I always eat lesser than I'd eat normally.

I motivated myself to get in a diet to make my body look better, but after losing 15kgs, I just don't seem to be getting in shape. Sure I look much better now, but I don't think I'll ever become like >>8955 so it demotivates me.

>>8963
FYI, juice is just as bad as regular soda. If you want to lose weight, drink only water.

As for the cardio part. It's really not necessary. Cardio just burns calories, you'd get the exact same weightloss results if you didn't eat those calories to begin with. So instead of running a mile, you could just not eat a banana and you'd have the same net effect.

Weightlifting on the other hand, promotes muscle growth and therefore increases your Resting Metabolic Rate (RMR). This is especially effective if combined with a protein rich diet. I'm not saying cardio is completely useless, it just shouldn't be your focus. Diet comes first.

Also, forgive me if I misinterpreted anything you said, I just skimmed your post and it said CARDIO six times.

>>3962

First of all, thank you for all of your advice on fitness. I'll try to reply and ask a few more questions.

I just can't spend time without drinking or eating anything, and I don't smoke(cigs or weed), so I drink coke zero. It tastes great btw, as you know, everyone has different likings.

I live in a urban city, and I don't have nearby forests or jogging areas, but I have a treadmill. I get extremely bored on it though, any ideas how to get it not boring?

I haven't said goodbye to tasty food, but I just dislike icecream and chocolate, I don't eat them anyway. I sometimes eat potato chips, or popcorn.

I don't want muscle. I want to have a shaped fatless body, I don't want to look like Arnold Schwarzenneger or Michael Phelps, I just want to look good.

Those workouts you stated, as English isn't my primary language and I haven't worked out properly before, I have little to no idea what you mean by those. I know what push-up means, but I have trouble understanding the others. Can you post a link or pic for them?

Thanks!

>>8965
Could I just point you in this direction: http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html .
It contains all the basic information you need right now.

>>8966

I've read it 10 times before, I need specific information on:

"Standard curl--Works bicep
Hammer fist--Works the middle of your bicep, for a more filled out and muscular look
Reverse curl--Works forearm and triceps more "

things like these. You know what I mean? What I need is specific information about technical terms in fitness, not general info.

Where can I do pull-ups in my home? I don't have a basement or anything... I'll do pull-ups and crunches, with cardio.

Any advice you can give me on eliminating boredom while running? As I said, I don't have a place to run outside(all streets and urban shit here) but I have a treadmill, but its too boring, I can barely spend 30 mins on it.

>>8967
Yes, except it's not. Calories in, calories out. Doesn't say you need to do cardio. I lose weight just fine and I only lift.

> To not stay bored while running, you can listen to music, stick the TV in front of the treadmill, day dream in your head about something else, etc.

Tried TV, its sooooooooooo boring to watch tv. Music is fine, but it just doesn't cut it. I feel like reading when running but how can I read while running?

Need more ideas.

>>8977

I've thought of magnifying glass, but then how will I flip pages? Meh.

I hope I'll figure out a way eventually. Belive me, you don't want to watch TV in a country like Turkey, it sucks soooo much. 99% of whats shown are TV series or their reruns...

Someplace in between chubbyfat and builtfat, because, weightloss.

>>8979

Believe me, you don't want to run outside where I live. Too many obstacles like brick-piles, cars, and dumpsters, not to mention the air pollution, wind, and cold. I wish there was a park or forest nearby... Running outside is not an option for me.

>>8965
Um. To make it not boring, push your limits. Higher speed levels, higher levels of incline. Gyms are also a good idea- they have a variety of machines! Try a gym.

>>8981
Also, the content of te television Downey really matter. It's distracting white noise with the benefit of showing the passing of time. I dunno, you have to push yourself to lose weight

I've thought of gyms, haven't made up my mind yet.

Driving to rural area is nearly impossible, I hate driving and rural areas are not close to me anyway. Whenever I think of running will make me think of driving, and I'll not go, I'm sure of it. Probably first time you've heard a guy who doesn't like driving, but yeah.

I'll stick to treadmill for now. Thanks for all your help though.

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I'd like to just suggest a weightlifting routine again. You obviously don't like cardio and if you do manage to actually lose your fat, you'll still look like shit if there's zero muscle under there. You'll just be skinny, you won't be 'in shape'. If you want to look somewhat like the guy in the picture you uploaded, you have to do some sort of weightlifting routine. Pic related is what you'll most likely end up looking like if you don't exercise/only run on treadmills.

It was also silly of you to say you don't want to look like Arnold or Phelps. Both have been training their entire lives, and you won't get anywhere near them unless you're actually trying. And even then, it will take years.

My advice: get a gym membership, do a strength training program like Starting Strength (read the book) and eat a high protein diet. One gym session should take you at most 45 minutes. It's more effective than cardio, because of the muscle mass you'll gain. It costs the body much more energy to maintain muscle than it does to maintain fat. For every amount of muscle you gain, you be able to lose fat easier. And to top it all off, you'll look better in the end too.

I'll say it again, you will not look like the guy you posted if you just lose fat.

Yes, I do realise I most likely wrote this for nothing, but I've got nothing better to do.

>>8987

Why would've you wrote that for nothing? I take every comment into consediration, don't think that I ignore anyone. However,

As I'll be doing(I AM doing) crunches, push ups, and pull-ups, I think I'll get some muscle where I want. As I've said, I'm still considering about a gym membership, if I join one, I'll surely get on a training program which will make my training probably better.

One thing though, don't give advice on people which they DON'T want about. I said I don't want to look like Arnold, when you give advice about it(and tell me that they wasted their whole lives for it, which is imo pathetic), it just annoys me.

>>8990
I believe you've missed my point though. What I said was, you will never look anything remotely like Arnold. I completely understand that you don't want to look like a bodybuilder. I don't either. But the guy in your picture has the body of a recreational athlete. In order to look like that, you'll have to put in some work. Weightlifting is the easiest path to looking like one.

Gaining muscle takes months, years even. You can always stop when you've attained your goal. Overshot your goal accidentally? Don't worry about it, stop exercising and it will come off again.

Have you ever played any sports?

>>8991

Wrestling in high school, basketball in high school, computer games in university... I'm more of a mind person than a body person, although I figured it wouldn't hurt to look good on the outside either.

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Between built and ripped. Aiming for that 8% @ 90KG.

( Yes, I realize I'm pulling that last bit of gut down, deal with it)

Should I take milk before or after the workout? Please help cus i hear that milk helps build muscle with the workout, thanks

>>8999
Depends man, lactose is a simple sugar, also dairy may cause boosting if you Rae lactose intolerant. Also if you are trying to bulk lean the carbs in milk as a post/pre workout snack (with a controlled high proteine meal) are less than ideal when compared to a good shake+creatine+water (and some BCAA's for measure) but it's a personal decision.

Have sone reading: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/liquid-muscle-last-word-on-milk-bodybuilding.html

Word.

>>8994

I've thought of swimming too, I'm studying at a university, yeah, and its got a swimming pool, but there are these factors:

1. my university is too far away from my place, so when I get out of university kinda late, it becomes very hard to return home due to traffic problems(may take ~4 hours if I stay after 5pm)

2. my university only accepts speedos to swim, I find them kinky, fairly enough, but I'm afraid that someone will make fun of me, especially swimmers from my course(which is math)

3. my classes are getting very hard, and I just can't beat mental tiredness quickly, so it will be hard for me to stay to swim

4. expensive. Believe it or not, but my university takes money if you want to use recreational facilities like gym or pool.

5. I know that I'm making excuses just to escape swimming, because I simply don't like swimming. I hope I could help it, but I dislike water.

I'm making excuses. I know that if I wanted to swim, I could, and I would. I know I sound like a whining bitch. However this I will promise you, I will take your words into serious consediration before making decisions, I value the information. So don't think that your efforts are in vain.

Skinnyfat and working in it.

>>9007

I sure will. Btw I measured my weight(is there a verb for this?) today, and it was 81kg, for the last month it was around 82. Losing weight = win.

So, I'm winning :)

Chubbyfat at the minute, I'm working on it. It's going well.

I've got no intention to build muscle,I really couldn't deal with the upkeep.

I am what they call otter mode. I am into cycling.

Somewhere between Bearmode and Builtfat.... closer to Bearmode (used to be 100% Bearmode, recovering from surgery =P)

I'm halfway between skinny/ottermode

Ottermode is best mode

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>>9051
Child please

Hello again, long time no posts in here, I'm constantly checking.

I'm this guy: >>9008

I've changed my eating habits a bit more, I recognized that I wasn't losing weight as much as I'd like to, I stopped ALL unhealthy food unless I'm with a friend. No nuts, no popcorn, no chips. I swear on my sex toys that I'll lose weight until I get a beautiful body.

Between skinny and skinnyfat

>>8977


1.Get a book in text or PDF format.
2.Copy and paste the text into a text 2 speech program
3.Save the audio files
4.Bring a laptop or other device that can play your audio files. And you listen to a program read you the book while you do other things.

Or you can buy a audio book where a real life human reads a book for you.

buildtfat here going for bearmode

Cardiobunny.

skinnyfat going for ottermode

>>9170
wich would be male mode for cardiobunny?
ottermode?

Gyno here. My pecs aren't nearly as droopy though.

I'm between buildfat and ottermode/ripped. I plan is to get to ottermode/ripped. Cardio!

I lol'd @ T-rex

currently bearmode, seeking t-rex mode

auscshwitz and cardiobunny

>>8955
do tons of squats for dat ass AND swim

if you want the body for the pic

>>9207
What do you think on squats relation with knee issues? Because that's why I'm avoiding them. Also, what muscle groups do squats target?

>>9213
Is this a 'I'm obese' knee issue or a 'sports injury' one?

One thruth is that as far as the best lifts are concerned squats and deadlifts are king, start light, say 40KG (88lb?) and work your way up, keep strict form. If need be use a smith machine or squat machine (tho I never advocate using machines as they are built for a certain isolated movement and as such limit your ROM)

I'm builtfat. currently... working out harder.

>>9218
It's in the middle... I'm buildfat, I only work out at home, never went to a gym (I don't think I never will). My rutine has situps, leg raises, pushups, pullups, and I'm trying to add more excercises that one can do at home, without complex machines. So, do squats hurt a person knees or that's just a mith? and, does it wort doing them without adding any weight?

>>9236
If done incorrectly hell yes, when doing squats and deadlifts form is everything, especially when going heavy.

As for what weight you should do, start low to gauge how your knees react to the motion of squatting (form, form, form) you need to add weight, lots of it, whether you want to strengthen or grow resistance is imperative.

Without a gym or at least a barbell it will be difficult and i have 0 experience in a no gym situation. There were a few pdf's posted in another thread covering this subject.

good luck man.

cardiobunny

ottermode
hoping to be ripped within 2 1/2 month.
think its possible?
i do

it's better to aim for high goals and fail then to aim low.

true story

skinny-ottermode. Hoping to be full ottermode soon.

I'm a curlbro but only on my right arm because I don't do curls I just masturbate a lot.

when i first saw Trex, i was liek 'whoaAAAT?'
but i've been riding my bike to work for over a year, and to school for a couple semesters. not saying i'm that freakishly disproportioned, but I could see how it could get there. my upper legs are getting pretty good from my simple riding.

Chubby fat here. I'm going gym up and hit my lawyer. Cya next year.

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bearmode/builtfag

>>9696
Speedskater thighs!

>>9713
i'm getting there. ultimately, i wanna be ablo to kick someone's face off

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>>9713
>>9715
http://www.ohlalamag.com/en/2008/06/meet-norwegian.html

>>9716
fukken nice

>>9719
I believe the proper pronunciation is "fukken noice"

I would place myself at "builtfat"

I'm 5'5 short as hell, 181 lbs as of today.

About a year ago I was 235 lbs, and that's when I decided to really do something about it.

Just recently joined the crossfit thing. They've been helping me A LOT. I've been dropping pounds like a mad man.

Somewhere between skinny and ottermode. I've been working out for just over a year. I started at skinny fat and I still have a little abdominal padding to lose, but apparently I'm the only one who can see it. It's getting warm here now so I'll be running the rest of it off pretty soon.
I'd like to be between ottermode and ripped by the end of summer.

Built.

Ottermode. Wish I was a bear.

between ottermode and ripped, getting there

i wish to be BEAR

>>10471

Fuck yeah, man.

im kinda builtfat with more muscle but ive always wanted to just be ripped

chubby, but then by your measure, so are most olympic atheletes, compared to the top line.

but this is so unfair, I'm sure I work out atleast twice as hard as any of the top line, and twice as healthy a diet

all the top line of physiques do not occur naturally, those physiques are mostly achieved using modern illegal substances

>>10498
Dude, I'm not quite sure most olympic athletes are chubby, or that you need to get on illegal substances to get rid of your belly and get some muscle. Maybe some bodybuilders or powerlifters do, but in general I don't think that the natural development of an athlete leads to the chubby bodytype... and neither does eating healty and working hard.

>>10498

I look exactly like the Ottermode guy. But it's because I swim three hours every day, do pushups and pullups, and run.

>>> 10498
Dude, I'm not quite sure most olympic athletes are chubby

Wasn't saying that exactly. More their category isn't exactly there. They would be between the top line and something else. Normally they're not as ripped as the illustration. Because I see athletes usually have a healthy ammount of body fat. Whereas those listed on the top line, look to have an unnaturally low level of body fat. Probably under 5%. When I was young and trained all day every day, I never had such little body fat as the top line, I think my best was 9%, I consider those body types only achievable with cheating. I know modern legal supplements help in some areas, such as creatine can make your muslcles "look" bigger, by encouring water rettention in the tissue, as I once tested and doubled my arms in size in a day, back when I didn't give a damn about pain or fatigue, before they made me "safe", I would place chips all the top line cheated for their physiques.

Not that I'm anti cheating. Because it doesn't matter. But maybe annoying to some that you could have any body type with no effort. We all know if you want 0% body fat and don't care about rules or effort, you can just take a few drugs and do ten push ups a day and look like any of the top line. Whether this is a good or bad thing. I'm not sure I care too much, but we should respect people who choose not to cheat at all, maybe, because that requires effort - alot.

:) thanks for the chat

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Just for curiosity, how does one get into Bruce Lee mode? (for it, I mean with an awesome functional strenght in very little muscle size). Not to he's point of course, but I want to know which are the excercise and diet concepts behind that body type, if someone knows.

>>10502
I don't think the first line is there because it's somehow considered better; it's just low bodyfat, vs the second one, wich is high body fat. IMO, bearmode is best mode: the most functional, and healthy, and awesome. And bodyfat should be maintained in about 15%, not more, not less.
But I really don't think one needs to cheat at all to get into, for case, ottermode, which is actually easy to achieve if you don't like food and drink a lot and are into cardio. I'm between chubby and built-fat now; worked my ass off to even got here from fatass, and still a shittone of work to do. But several folks that don't have issues with food can be into other types without any drugs, just working-out. It depends on each one I guess.

>>10505

Sure, a Bearmode guy could crush the shit out of any of the first four top liners, but only if he caught them. Ottermode and Ripped guys can run farther and faster than anyone on that graph other than CardioBunny. Also, they have enough upper body to be useful in every day use, unless they've got a job crushing barrels or something ridiculously made up like that.

Skinny at this point but my I inherited my dad's slightly bulky skeletal structure so farthest I'll be able to go is built if I keep training.

I'm at ottermode right now. My genetics are built towards thin frame but I know I have 30 lbs or so to go until I'm happy.

Gyno as fuck.

im a fat as a fatass! i get out of breath running down my hall. Help plz?!

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>>8933
this is me wat do you think?

>>10544
Seen worst. Go atkins.

Pure ottermode

Between chubbyfat and builtfat. I'm on bulk.

T-rex. I run 35km a day minimum (barefoot), I train taekwondo 6 days a week, I also do crazy jumping stunts and shit.

otter with a side of curlbro

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Curlbro. But I'm shifting my routine around and bulking to get more definition in my chest.

Curlbro upperbody, built back, t-rex legs. Dem squats and chinups.

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ILike to think I'm built fat but am loosing weight and gain way more muscle easier than I anticipated

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I'd say chubbyfat.
Based on the pants I wear in this photo, you can probably guess I used to be bigger though, which sort of helps motivate me to lose moar weight.

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What does /fit/ think I am?

6'2" 182 lbs

>>10871
Skinny, but you can easily achieve ottermode. You're pretty close.

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1 month/12 lbs. into the not eating like shit, not sitting on my ass all day lifestyle. 5'10" 196 lbs. Chubby fat or chubby built? Maybe 30 lbs. to being ripped?

gain some fucking weight

skinny working on ottermode.
signed up for weightlifting at community college cuz i don't know shit about it.
never set foot in a gym. should be a trip.
any advice?

>>11051
His "weight" seems fine. He just needs to keep working out and not eating shit and results will come.

>>11064
Train hard, eat clean. Since you're skinny, make sure to eat a lot of protein (gram of protein per pound of bodyweight) and a lot of complex carbs (whole grain bread, rice, pasta).

Also, 5x5 starting strength routine. Do it.

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>>11075
do you mean 1 gram of protein per lb body weight once a day or at every meal?
i'm 125lb so that only comes out to be ~ 1/4lb protein. per day it doesn't seem like much, but per meal it could add up.

i've been vegetarian for >20 years but just recently added fish to my diet. maybe 3 times a week i will have a 1/2lb serving of fish. usually eat it with some soba (buckwheat) noodles.

>>11080
Gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, every day. At your weight, you may want to consider those "Mass gainer" supplements, or protein shakes at least.

I like to eat a lot of cheese in the morning on my bread, in order to get some extra protein. If you choose this route, make sure you're eating GOOD cheese like Swiss, provolone, parmesan, or gouda. Generally, the harder the cheese, the more protein content it has. Cheeses like the orange processed square slices in the plastic wrappers tend to be lacking in nutrition, as well as really soft/creamy cheeses.

And as for the fish, I assume you know about not eating too much tuna.

Otter-ripped seamed stuck here...

Between Skinny and ottermode, moving more into ottermode

builtfat. that used-to-go-the-gym look.

>>11219
Dont kid yourself, skinnyfat faggot.

Builtfat is my closest, I suppose. 87kg bodyweight, should be around 77kg.

On my weakest and chubbiest in several years (injuries and bad habbits creeping in) but I've started turning it around since a couple of weeks ago; putting more weight on the bar again and stopped gaining any on the body.