I think it's because it's a sexually liberated culture anyway.. and once you get to a point where you aren't offended by other types of sexualities, you start to realize that bisexuality/homosexuality isn't as bad as people act like it is.

>>11295

This is quite true, also if you're bisexual you'll simply get the best of both worlds (straight and gay).

he's asking why the gay population of the furry community is proportionally extremely large in comparison to the actual proportion of gay people in general. I am similarly curious about this, being straight and [mildly] into furry

A lot of furs seem to be straight for humans but go "gay" for furry art. I'm not sure why, being gay for both myself but it's something I've noticed a few times with different people.

Anyone like this wanna shead some light, is it just simply down to dog cock being 'hot as fuk'?

If I had to venture a guess, I would say it is because a lot of people are bi-curious but dare not act on it or simply do not want to for various reasons. Since furry is father removed from reality than, well, reality, perhaps it is easier to act on one's tendencies through it simply because it's not "for real". That would also explain why some people fancy gay drawn art in general but not the real deal.

>>11319
i agree
>>11295
this has something to do with it as well, i noticed that after looking at so many different kinds of porn, gay porn (of any type, not just furry) didn't turn me off like it did back in the day. i don't fap to it but i can watch it without being turned off or grossed out

i kinda think that (at least with fursuits) it seems like so much more are gay because you can have gay sex, not as you self, but as this character you made up. its more psychological than we might think. but i might just be over thinking it a bit

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I like gfur because a large percentage of it is very girly. The characters are often traps or femboys. I have no idea why this is but it suits my interests. I started with trap doujins and moved onto rl traps and femboys. A lot of them seem to be into furporn so I found it that way. Again I have no idea why that is but I have theories.

Ignoring the weird stuff, most gfur is quite clean and idealistic. It's soft, girly and non threatening. It is less gay or scary than human porn because of this. It's like a gentle introduction. You can masturbate to what is technically gay sex but it exists in this fantasy world removed from reality. Roleplaying with other guys is easier too if they're in character. The danger is that straight guys can be drawn easily into faggotry this way.

It is a slippery slope into a giant bowl of cum filled with hard dicks. You're not going to be able to climb out even if you want to.

>>11319, >>11320, >>11327

>>11318 here. Guess these ideas makes sense, femboys do seem to be the trend in these things. I guess in someway the over-saturation of males in the fandom might play a role.

Also, gotta say, not normally into femboys but that image in the last post is something else, maybe my tendency to be attracted towards geeky guys overrules it... Curious.

It's a myth. There is a lot of gay artwork (although still less than there is straigh artwork), but most IRL furries are straight, with about the same number of gays as in the general population. There are a lot of bisexuals, I've noticed, but more "normal" people would be bisexual, too, if they were not so repressed.

The artists could at least try to make straight furry art

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>>11359
maybe if there was a market for it

The way I see it, there are aspiring artists who figure that drawing furries is easier than drawing humans. And if they search for furry art, they find a bunch of homoerotic work, and go for that, figuring that's what is popular, thus adding to what I think is oversaturation of gay furry artwork. And that leads viewers on the outside to yell "furfag".

Or attention whoring. That's pretty negative, but the internet is good for promoting it.

why is ther lots of gay art??? cus thats what people pay for and what people pay is what we get

here's the bigger question for you OP and everyone else reading and responding, why does it really fucking matter? people should mind their own business, like someone once told me whatever you do in your own bedroom is your business and should be no one else's. fuck this world!

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>>11398
OP wanted to discuss it and so do the other posters. Now if you don't mind I have some serious fapping to do.

>>11398

What -a person- does is their own business, what people do is a subject some people may find curious and should be allowed to discuss it. It's not like people are slating it or being slanderous, just general, innocent, harmless curiosity into why a lot of furs seem to like the cock.

It's perhaps because there's more male characters can do... or, at least, a penis can do. It's not uncommon to see hermaphrodite images, where the furries have both a penis and vagina.

Lesbian orgies, while straight males might fixate about them, don't really involve much... there's not all that much art that can be done with it. Rubbing, touching, etc. You need a dick, and the more dicks you have the more clusterfuck an image can be.

cause a vast majority of the fandom IS indeed homosexual...or bisexual.

The furry stuff takes you off guard and infects you with the gay. I used to consider myself like 90% straight, because I only thought some guys were kind of cute. Now I would consider myself like 51% straight.

Most furries I've met in person tend to be around the same proportion of gay and straight orientations, and to some extent, that holds true of people I've met online. I'm beginning to think, however, that gay people, particularly gay men, tend to produce more artwork in greater quantities than other demographics. Just my personal experience. Actual data would prove more interesting, I suppose.

OP here

>>11426 this guys post makes more seance than about 60% of the other posts as to why more furry pics i see are gay.
a lot of good points have been made thus far!

feel free to discus it further! i love seeing what others think. it even changes what i think sometimes

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So, I consider myself heterosexual but when it comes to furry I really get the hard on from both sexes. As you said above, girly-looking, curved girlboys...

I have to agree, I'm not gay nor am I bisexual or bicurious, but I become aroused at the strips and pictures of Little Buddy series yet it never comes up. People say its homosexual which I can see why of course, but I'm not about to go make a life change all because I find that particular series a turn on and nothing else.

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Am I going to be the first to bring up the Kinsey scale? You know, sexuality is more of a spectrum than two or three (gay/straight/bi) cut-and-dry categories? The current social pressures pushes people to choose from one of them.

Although I would say I'm gay, I have been attracted to women before. But now I tend to enjoy the more masculine stuff. Pic related.

There was a poll taken on FurAffinity forums 5,000 years ago, so I tend to base my opinions on that as well as with what I view. It showed that straight furries actually do have a plurality, but bisexuals and gays in combination outnumber them, with full-on gays being the smallest portion of the three. Depending on how you look at it from that perspective, you can argue either way that there is more dick-loving furries or more vagina-loving furries.

As to _why_, as per the original question, is really complex. Ignoring individual variables for why people are furries in the first place so we can make any kind of useful generalization here for the purpose of discussion: I think it's pretty much because we're all weirdos to begin with, we're not really what most of the general population or most of society would find acceptable. We're all social rejects, so gays tend to feel more comfortable around other people who may know what that feeling is like, and so we are accepting? That's my best guess.

>>11545
>but bisexuals and gays in combination outnumber them, with full-on gays being the smallest portion of the three

This doesn't surprise me because almost 100% of people are at least a LITTLE bit bisexual, and furries as a rule are not afraid to accept or embrace deviant sexualities. In fact, I've never known a furry who didn't have at least a small amount of attraction to the gender other than their usual preference. Probably everyone is that way, too, but won't admit it.

men are typically covered in hair. furries are covered in hair. if you like men you are probably more likely to enjoy furry art. seems simple to me.

More openness to diversity and less hangups when it comes to fetishes make more people "come out". It's not a mystery.

>>11547

Makes sense in theory but I'm typically attracted to less hairy (human) guys myself, there's always exceptions to any rule but not sure this checks out.

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>>11547
Heheh

>>11548
Yes, I agree with this.

as long as it's intelligent ill tap anything with a dick. furry porn is just typically more exotic and therefore draws a larger crowd.

>>11547

Interestingly, for many furries I've known (including myself) it's actually the complete opposite. Both a furry (of a certain variety) and a human with a hairless body have a certain aesthetic of "smoothness". Basically, the skin/fur has a uniform texture all over the body. This also explains why some people don't like furry characters (like the OPs picture) who have patches of differently colored fur on their bodies where humans have hair. The appeal in the smooth-bodied human and smooth-furred furry is because it has the effect of making the furry/person look more youthful and attractive.

My first therapist was a hardcore Freudian psychoanalyst who - despite the fact that I was sexually dormant at the time - told me that I was a gay furry because I was dissociating from my desire to pork my mother.

>>11812
Ok that whole post is confusing, can you please elaborate?

>>11818
That's Freudian theory for you. Don't try to make sense out of it. Sure it'll start out reasonable, but then comes the 'therefore' and proceeds into fucked-up shit. Like every woman wants a penis and every man wants to kill his dad and boink his mom.

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When you have 6 people
(exclude their sexuality/ knowledge of Fur culture "fandom" or whatever.)
What a Furry is, the likely thing that would happen is that you would end up with 7 different answers.

I remember as well as looking into what it actually means to be Furry, and as well as too be gay.
Over time I never really had knowledge of it all until I just starting hurpa durping on the internet a bunch but even then I could'nt decide whether or not I was anything.

Now, after my dark ages, now more mature about everything, I'm actually surprised at how I went from actually wanting women(human) too looking into Furries( female) then looked moar into gay/fur( Because I was too fucking curious)
And now..I would say that, despite my comfert around people or sexuality,
I prefer guys altogether, mostly finding more of something in guys that I liked so much more than women.

As so much as I should say for myself.
All the Ideas out of this seem to lead to the same general idea...not sure should call out on what it may be yet.

>>11527
personally i think the Kinsey Scale is crap. either you're attracted to people of your own gender or you're not. i think at most you could argue that a bisexual with a preference for one gender or the other is "more gay" or "more straight," but they're still bi, and frankly i've yet to meet a bi with a true preference one way or the other(one guy claimed to, but he turned out to have some lingering identity issues and later decided he was just gay).

>>11820
taken literally yeah it's a load of tosh, but if you look at ''kill his dad'' as a metaphor for ''take his place'' as in his role as a breadwinner, and ''boink his mom'' as seeking a mate similar to his mother(who was likely the greatest female presence during his formative years), it makes sense, and neither is a great leap of logic(after all, i was able to come up with it on my own).

>>11826
Unfortunately there are actual practicing psychiatrists that take this shit as literal gospel truth, without metaphorical interpretation.

>>11826
Unfortunately there are actual practicing psychiatrists that take this shit as literal gospel truth, without metaphorical interpretation.

>>11831
well, i'm sure there are enough guys who DO have full-blown Oedipus complexes and whatnot to justify most of Freud's claims. i'm just speculating on how it might apply on a larger scale. i can't for the life of me, though, figure out how the old man took a dream about wolves and turned it into a metaphor for walking in on your parents fucking(unless the kid's parents were furries or something).

>>11834
Jung believed Freud had some very serious issues, and that he was projecting these issues onto his "theories". Jung has told of several experiences, such as one where Freud had a panic attack because he believed Jung was secretly harbouring a desire to kill him, and another where he he maniacally told Jung how he must continue his lifes work and turn his theories into an unchangeable dogma.

Generally, every man, gay/bi/straight/whatever is attracted by four things in particular in any kind of body: feet, ass (duh), breast (you don't say), and (here comes the weird part) penis! Seems like whatever is your sexual preference these are the four things that generally excite the most men in the world. It's the same reason because STRAIGHT men do like futanari and she-male porn. They have at least three (if not all four) the "natural sexual triggers", plus us men have a sexually tightly linked to the visual factor. Furry femboy and traps usually keep the same three (if not all) triggers, since we're not interested in big breast, but "nice looking" breast, whatever they're flat or not. Surprisingly the community have a real plus of "declared" straight furs. The real reason we have more gay/bi porn is that the community is mainly male and visual porn is a product mainly for men (since women have another kind of sexually linked more on the touch than of the eye) and men are more excited by a cock than a vagina in a drawn porn, whatever you're straight, bi or gay

I honestly can't tell whether I'm bisexual or straight at this point, but I do definitely know that I really like to fap to some gay furry art, shemales, and the occasional shota picture or doujin. In general though I don't like the thought of me putting my penis in some guy's gross butthole and probably wouldn't like one in mine either as I have experimented with anal stimulation and didn't like it.

>>12206
>I honestly can't tell whether I'm bisexual or straight at this point

If you're fapping to guys and you still like women, then you're probably bisexual.

>I don't like the thought of me putting my penis in some guy's gross butthole and probably wouldn't like one in mine either as I have experimented with anal stimulation and didn't like it.

Sexual orientation has almost nothing to do with sexual acts. It's about what you're attracted to. Sure sexual acts usually go hand-in-hand with what you're attracted to, but a lot of people make the mistake of believing that a certain act (like pegging or using a toy) would "make them gay," but that's really not how it works at all.

I wouldn't be too concerned about any of it, tbh.

Oh also there's some researchers doing surveys on furries at various conventions (and occasionally online, I guess). They were at Anthrocon this year, so the results for it should be published soon. Sexual orientation is a part of the survey as well as a whole bunch of other crap.

Here's the site for past results: https://sites.google.com/site/anthropomorphicresearch/currently-active-study

Hopefully the survey results from AC 2012 will be posted up soon too. It might help give some insight into the questions a lot of us have.

>>12207
You can be attracted to guys and not like anal. Look up intercrural some time.

I think the reason is because the guys are always sexy.

Sexiness in men is underplayed in RL culture. 95% of males in furry art are sexually empowered.
-Toned forms are celebrated and the norm. Our society raises us to see men as uglier, duller, rougher.
-Clothes designed for men are not very flattering IRL. Clothes for women are VERY flattering. Fur is always drawn like tight clothing.
-Liberating fagginess. They pose/present themselves in ways only women can get away with IRL without being called obscene.
This all might be considered 'effeminate', but that's just the label we give traditional fagginess which has only been kosher to be expressed by women.

Also raised tails are hot in the animal world. Presenting 'n' all that. IRL men do not have tails so we lose points there.

I disagree somewhat about that it's because males are more sexualised, but only in the way that you state: "toned" etc.

I relate to the furry porn that is an extremely effiminate guy who's all soft and lovely getting fucked silly.

I don't read it for the character who would in fantasyland be my partner, but because I can relate to the drawn characters more than I can anyone else I see.

It's not like I can search for "sexy boygirl gets fucked" and turn up any results that arn't hideous. I don't want to watch Baily J that manfaced crazy getting railed. I want someone I can relate to.

I'm extremely straight in real life, and in furry. Sometimes some gay art catch me off guard (hard blush I'm looking at you) when ever I see a dat ass, I go nuts. But it ticks me off that its a dude. now I'm trying my best to avoid gay art before it snags me, the really feminine ones really get me

As for why furries are gay? My guess is that is socially accepted in the furry world

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Furry is a very sexually liberal subculture. There are large numbers of gay and bisexual people in any of these subcultures, such as BDSM for example.

Being in each of these cultures has taught me that everything the mainstream teaches about sexuality is a lie. *Almost* everyone, to some degree, is bisexual. A truer approximation of sexuality would be a dichotomy not between male/female but rather masculinity/femininity. "Gays" are more into their own sex's characteristics; "bis" are most often into both with a mild preference for either, and "straights" are more into the opposite sex's characteristics.

In the most accepting of environments, this leaves straight men to brag how they would top a femboy or transsexual. I already see this in general conversation with my most queer-friendly of friends. They are very obviously only going to date women, but they do not hesitate to describe the draw of transsexuals or very feminine men.

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This has been discovered years ago even image boards prove it, if you take a look at any furry image board you will see that number fag drawings are nearly two times larger than number of straight female drawings. And most of the fags actually do it only because they want to be the dominant side in the fandom, few years ago when /share section used to work in lulz.net i remember seeing tons of fags against straight threads. There where also a lot of fags against lesbians threads because i remember reading stuff like "why are there so many female drawing, there are already lots of straight porn out there. If u can't live without boobs than go to xtube or smthn" Obviously some moronic writing from a faggot from furry gay and proud shit. Next i read something i never forgot and wonder why no one made a meme out of it "Well gay furries are stronger you have to agree on that. Lesbian furries need protection as someone anyone can kick they're ass, unlike men who can defend themselves" HAHA! I wish i had those screenshots, i bet all my money that lesbians can they're ass and the next fag's who will get in they're way. Any who don't think that furries actually work as a team, no way.... they are actually very enclosed groups of interest and taste. It's a matter of gender wars and interests that put them to fight each other. Even today same shit keep on going. And why furries are considered gay? Well if you mean all females and males than who do you think established this fag fandom? Furries are a group of sexually diverse people yet the most unfriendly at same time. All the drama all the trolling is made by furries themselfes not anons as many think.

Most furfags I know are straight/bi-curious or bisexual.

As for the amount of gay art, what about women that like it?

Adding my 2 cents as to why some straight people 'go gay for furry', I think it just boils down to personal preference. Sort of like how some guys prefer skinny women and others are 'chubby chasers'. In some cases, women who don't match their personal preference don't invoke any sexual attraction at all. The same can be said for normally straight guys who like gay furry art. Human guys don't do it for them, but furry guys do. They just found the one type of male that they are actually attracted to. Even within the furry community, there are people who show a preference for a particular species above all others. This also applies to just about everything else. I hate tomatoes by themselves, but turn them into ketchup or spaghetti sauce, and I'm all for them. I don't like most horror movies, but I'll watch the shit out of zombie movies. I normally don't like reading science fiction, but the Dragonriders of Pern series is one of my all-time favorite book series(Yes, I know the name is misleading, but it IS science fiction.) At the same time, thinking about having sex with a human male is a boner killer. But if I imagine having sex with a furry male, and it's fap city. It's all a matter of finding what revs your engine, so to speak.

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Graymuzzle checking in.

A fellow by the name of Mark Merlino probably had a lot to do with it. He was already pretty involved in the gay community, so when he started getting official furry cons going (where previously they'd mostly just been "a group" at the big sci-fi and fantasy cons), he marketed them heavily with gays. For better or for worse, furry gained a noticeable gay contingency pretty early on. He also owns the Prancing Skiltaire, a home that's been notorious for-fucking-ever for being something of a haven for sexual openness...and general lack of hygiene.

As others in here have already said, the furry fandom has tended to be pretty lenient and non-judgemental wrt people's preferences. As long as you like the fuzzy anthros, the fandom's cool with you. Naturally this becomes something of a self-feeding cycle--as you openly accept the people the rest of society shuns, the more flock to the fandom, who in turn encourage more. This eventually led to backlash in the form of the Burned Furs and others, but that's a different topic for another time.

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>>14370
And a bit more personal conjecture. The other thing that probably helps encourage it is that furry is already fantasy, so the characters can be depicted in whatever way you find attractive. Meaning, even someone who finds real life males unappealing can relatively easily be attracted to furry males simply because they hit the right triggers. A big example of this is the ostensibly male characters which are really feminine bodies with dicks. So the straight guy's brain cues in on all the female-looking aspects (and seductive poses) and feels attraction. I'm sure at some point you've all heard people say how confused and conflicted a certain image makes them feel.

i like female and like aliens ..and if you combine them whta you get ?? yeah exactly Alien Females..it´s the same if those who are gay..like males and like aliens..then what you get ?? yeah Alies Males..so i have no fucking idea why Furries automatically makes you gay.. that's just a lot of baloney..

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You really think a Gay male.. would be into this ?? no, they are not into the Female Appearance..nor the tits..compared if you ar bi, lessi. or straight like me..but no fuckign gay male would be into this..unless they are lying to themself that they are gay..

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Compared to this..no Lessi would be into this..nor a straight male..only Straight girls and gay..and if they are bi girl/male..but no Straight male or Lessi..unless they are lying to themself..

And while i´m here to the Gay thing..NO I´M NOT INTO GUYS..But i Do like to watch SHEmale time from time..because im into the Girl stuff..Face,tits and the girly Appearance like the body too..if i where to see a Girl on the street i though "Damm, thats a hot chick", thats because i´m into the Girly face and tits..and if it happend to be a SHEmale/Trap then so be it..i have learned to accept SHEmales..compared to like 5-6 years ago and though they where all sheMALES..or rather gross Crossdressers..that only have giry face..yet the rest is Male stuff..like the body..so long suckers..that aren´t sure about your sexuel preference..have a nice day..and WTF is signing off..

>>11812
What? Quid?

I only know two languages, but What?
I need to know where these people learn this, because it sounds like madness on par with religious books.

interesting thread. some distinctions which are becoming more clear in my mind after reading peoples insightful posts:

arousal not to equal sexuality.
fantasy not to equal real life.

I am solo-sexual in rl, with hetero interests & tendancies but in fantasy i'm a sexual omnivore. Anything that arouses me I will follow till i lose interest and then return when it peaks interest. Furry, incest, bdsm, loli, shota, yuri, yaoi, preg, rpe, tod, feet, guro, etc, you can fill in the blanks with your kink and/or combine sub-categories. Do I want to experience all these fantasies that aroused me in rl??? HELL NO! It is fantasy for a reason. Much of fantasy being physically impossible, or having such lifestyle, legal, moral, societal, and health consequences I would never want it to occur in rl. The fantasy allows my creative mind to exercise the liberty of going where it will and not suffer the consequence of f'ing up peoples lives in the process. If I am aroused by the fetish of the hour, I can indulge till I move on to something else. This means I get to see a lot of weird stuff. Some has turned my stomach, thank G it was fantasy. My imagination and the fantasy kingdom in my mind is far more strange that the real world can hold.
But fantasy is in rl...
Yeah, lovers don't only always think about their partners when in the act. All sorts of stuff comes up both real and fantasy; past partners, ideal partners, fetish, other real stuff. All attempts to full fill fantasy in real life fall short of what can be imagined. The mind can build up unattainable expectations.
So back to arousal and sexuality. There are so many variables I feel like we are trying to analyze one ripple in a lake during a hail storm. Arousal can be achieved by non sexual means; electrically, mechanically, chemically. Is sexuality what a person thinks, or what they do? If I had only hetero sex throughout my life would I be hetero? but fantasized about level 3 furries all the time would that mean my sexuality was different? How bout the current situation: I only fap to fantasy, and feel no need to interact with the flesh and bone real world in a sexual nor gender specific way? I must be a solo-sexual... Must I be?

right now I am also leaning toward the extended idea that
fantasy not to equal sexuality.
arousal not to equal real life.
zvvz
thoughts?

Well I think aside from shedding some light on OP's question this little survey may answer a lot of questions about furry.

https://sites.google.com/site/anthropomorphicresearch/past-results/international-furry-survey-summer-2011

I really can't stand gay furry porn. Gay furry adorable couples n stuff I'm cool with and think are cute, but the porn itself I just hate. I think it's mainly because I only like straight furry porn, and especially with things like femboys, I think I'm seeing something I like but then all of a sudden it's a guy. Plus my hate for anal probably contributes to it, although I actually like gay pony porn, but that's a whole different ball of wax.

>femanon

I don't have a single thing against gays or gay furries, but I really hate the porn because it's usually a disappointment. Plus I'm a chubby chaser, and usually when I find chubby furry porn, it's gay.