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May Day Historian 13/05/01(Wed)09:24 No. 13728 [Reply]
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None of you historians remembers why the 1st of May is celebrated on May 1? Why, was it too long ago? Not long ago enough?

Americans don't celebrate May Day, but worry not: Your sacrifice is not forgotten. The rest of the world remembers.


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Historian 13/05/01(Wed)19:13 No. 13729

I will always remember it as a pagan holiday.


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Historian 13/05/02(Thu)08:47 No. 13730

Because it was the day the whole of modern civilization was nearly burned to a fine, crispy flaky crust?

http://www.space.com/20928-giant-sun-wave-nasa-video.html

Heh, nah, that happens all the time.


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Historian 13/05/03(Fri)23:19 No. 13731

For the Druids of the British Isles, May 1 was the second most important holiday of the year. Because, it was when the festival of Beltane held. It was thought that the day divides the year into half. The other half was to be ended with the Samhain on November 1. Those days the May Day custom was the setting of new fire. It was one of those ancient New Year rites performed throughout the world. And the fire itself was thought to lend life to the burgeoning springtime sun. Cattle were driven through the fire to purify them. Men, with their sweethearts, passed through the smoke for seeing good luck.




Anthropology Historian 13/03/22(Fri)02:16 No. 13602 [Reply]
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Any good anthropology books that you recommend reading or are good? Also, I don't mind anything form universities such as lectures and discussions?

I love reading about the history of the origin of people and races and whatnot and I have been reading things online but I would like to expand my knowledge


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Historian 13/03/22(Fri)03:47 No. 13604

>>13603
Thank you. I'll look into it hopefully I find one at a decent price


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Historian 13/03/22(Fri)10:05 No. 13605

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  where's that comic with that chick on the computer and then the fat short guy notices and she facepalms and then next thing you know the little round bastard's diving onto her with an armload of animu or some shit

that's exactly how I feel right now

"alan mcfarlane"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJCH7G9kKcY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkuHvWcbb0g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNVR7KtRuLE


"jon mayorman" - or something that sounds like that, he does history mostly, but he did live in the area AND, he's a yale lecturer who got access and talked with various individuals in europe - self identified left winger, but not hipster trash (it seems to be close to what my grandpa did in terms of how he went about stuff, but not quite entirely the same)

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Historian 13/04/24(Wed)03:46 No. 13725

the human zoo by desmond morris, or the naked ape by desmond morris




Historian 12/12/11(Tue)21:32 No. 13377 [Reply]
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/hi/, lately I've been eye balling world history. Problem is I don't know where to start, as in books. I moved to a new country and I'm barely getting by with my rudimentary language skills. The library really isn't an option so do you have any torrent links to chinese, american, european history or just any websites where I can learn this?


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Historian 13/03/09(Sat)11:22 No. 13575

three things you need to know about

keep these in mind

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fanboy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey#Relationship_with_humans


someone already linked these on this forum earlier

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBDA2E52FB1EF80C9


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Historian 13/04/21(Sun)16:01 No. 13723

>>13575

Why the Urban Dictionary defintion?


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Historian 13/04/22(Mon)13:34 No. 13724

because it helps to refer to these to remember that the classics and other things are just a bunch of retarded mental circlejerk fanboys

anything wrong with liking retarded mental circlejerking fanboys? why are you on this site? why are you on the internet at all, why are you in society?




Historian 11/08/24(Wed)04:57 No. 9669 [Reply]
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Hey /hi/, I absolutely suck at economics, or math in general. Give me a TL;DR summary of the hatred for bankers? I understand they're one of the few things people of all political philosophies can agree on: that they're evil.


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Historian 12/05/01(Tue)06:55 No. 12277

>>12275
Silly boy, Hitler teamed up with the normal vampires.

Concentration camps were just vampire feeding grounds. It's the only way so many people could have been killed so quickly.


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Historian 12/05/02(Wed)05:38 No. 12281

>>12277
>>12275
>>12273

Th-There is NO EVIDENCE of any reverse vampires at Auschwitz or Treblinka!! The walls on the "death chambers" were tested in 2003 and found no trace of chemicals. TRUTH DOES NOT FEAR INVESTIGATION!


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Historian 12/05/02(Wed)08:40 No. 12290

>>12281
>reverse vampires
>chemicals
Of course there weren't any traces of reverse vampires or chemicals, the regular vampires were the ones doing all the feeding. Now if you tested for regular vampires, maybe you'd find something... but first they would have to let you create a test for vampires.

And we both know that's not going to happen.




Historian 13/01/24(Thu)07:51 No. 13533 [Reply]
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Considering that this is history and culture, I figured that this is the best board to post my question. If it's not, please maintain some form of tact and show me to a better forum which will accommodate my inquiry.

So I've begun studying the Latin language. Right now I'm learning various words and syntaxes, and I came across a particular phrase which I found interesting in theory, but I happen to lack the knowledge which would benefit the confirmation of proper grammar. The phrase in question is "Anima Universum", which I believe translates to "The soul of the universe" or "Universe soul". I believe it to be a variant of the phrase "Anima Mundi". My question is whether or not this translation is correct, so is it?


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Historian 13/03/10(Sun)03:30 No. 13579

anima mundi
1670s, Medieval Latin, literally "soul of the world;" used by Abelard to render Greek psyche tou kosmou.

anima (n.)
Jung's term for the inner part of the personality, or the female component of a masculine personality, 1923, from fem. of Latin animus "the rational soul; life; the mental powers, intelligence" (see animus).


universe (n.)
1580s, "the whole world, cosmos," from Old French univers (12c.), from Latin universum "the universe," noun use of neuter of adj. universus "all together," literally "turned into one," from unus "one" (see one) + versus, pp. of vertere "to turn" (see versus). Properly a loan-translation of Greek to holon "the universe," noun use of neuter of adj. holos "whole" (see safe (adj.)).

horo/holo spice and wolf




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Historian 13/03/10(Sun)03:36 No. 13580

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php

ah I forgot, this site will help a fair bit if you're looking for the background of words

it tells you the earliest known meaning, it's pretty neat, and related words too

fagot (n.) Look up fagot at Dictionary.com
early spelling of faggot (n.1).

you should look up fag, as an example of just how much one can learn from it

I was going to make a joke of it but really there's a lot there that I didn't know about, anyways the site has a lot of latin and a lot of words derive from it and greek so enjoy




Historian 13/03/25(Mon)10:19 No. 13624 [Reply]
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>History and Culture
>First thread: holocaust denial
>Second thread: argument for authoritarianism and/or social darwinism

Damn, there goes another potentially interesting board.

>USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST


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Anonymous 13/03/25(Mon)10:24 No. 13625

well, how about we start some conversation?
which culture contributed to the arts the most since the beginning of time? It's not a GREAT idea for subject matter, but it's something, and I'm genuinely both interested in your response and seeing this board develop more.


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Historian 13/03/25(Mon)12:49 No. 13626

Well the world is a pretty big place, and has only been functioning qith complete awareness for a short while (comparatively) so I would have to say that if there was one single culture that contributed most to the global culture as it stands today, it must be the culture of United States.




Historian 13/03/17(Sun)15:43 No. 13591 [Reply]
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Why are there political debates? Why don't politicians just defer to experts regarding the best and most up-to-date understanding of what to do, given a grounding in economics, mathematics and empirical and/or scientific evidence?

When there is difference on expert opinions, they can simply leave it to the voters (democracy) to read the papers and decide, in an informed way, or do what they usually do and defer to an cultural authority figures judgement? This would remove all the irrationality and psychological manipulation that pervades politics, and would cut a fuck tonne of bureaucracy and political wastage in society.

Where decisions are made on religious deference, that could also be made clear, to keep those people happy, and the democratic system may or may not select for what events as best for society.

>Hint: There may or may not be a kind of 'selection' of the best policy from an astute voting base which we may or may not decide to call evolution, before it is promptly rejected due to a deeply embedded mistake in deference, are relict from an inherited defective cultural human psyche.


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Historian 13/04/07(Sun)06:40 No. 13669

I think the powers that be actually do use a lot of up to date information analysis. The public doesn't see this because the solutions are often at odds with what is morally acceptable

also your point about voters doing anything in an informed way makes no sense when the average voter literally cannot understand economics, mathematics, science etc


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Historian 13/04/07(Sun)09:13 No. 13670

>>13669
Indeed, many public positions held by politicians is at odds with the very factual knowledge they hold. Just look at the former doctor who claimed that women only get pregnant during rape if they wanted to get pregnant. There is no way he could have made it through medical school with that kind of nonsense in his head.


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Historian 13/04/07(Sun)22:32 No. 13671

>>13669

it's not even sufficient to understand one of those things, you've got to have a number of them under your belt to be remotely competent, *and* have a healthy appreciation for the rest too




Historian 12/09/10(Mon)21:37 No. 13045 [Reply]
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I'll keep it simple because I'm tired.

Do you think western societies have become too complacent and apathetic to have another major revolution?


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allegory is one hell of a subject Historian 13/04/09(Tue)08:26 No. 13684

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  revolution just means something going full cycle/full circle, those happen regardless of whether someone tries to make them happen or whatever, there is no end to history because time doesn't stop (fuck fouceau or whatever his name is)


and so orouborous goes, again, and again, and again, around, and around, and around


irrelevance, nullification

Friedrich Hayek mentions in his 1944 book The Road to Serfdom the danger of a support of monopolistic organisation of industry from WWII political remnants:

Another element which after this war is likely to strengthen the tendencies in this direction will be some of the men who during the war have tasted the powers of coercive control and will find it difficult to reconcile themselves with the humbler roles they will then have to play [in peaceful times]."[12]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5MDGMvrSJc


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Historian 13/04/09(Tue)08:34 No. 13685

another little thing, from fiction, about "decadence" or in this case, what it takes to make it not seem to happen

also, I can't remember the guy's name, but he's balding with glasses, and skinny, he's a military historian

he was talking about how a lot of US soldiers have a tragic world view, akin to the confederates

donald kagan, in his talks about how the northern union and the athenians treated their southern enemies, the spartans and the confederates points out that one of their commanders each decided to completely wreck the enemy country side to break their egotism and arrogance

turns out the whole SS/aryan/prussian militarism approach to life isn't quite as strong as it's made out to be, which is what I was getting at with the yoda video :D - it takes a lot more vitality and strength to oppose someone playing mad god with his buddies, bullying tons of people, than it does to go along with him because you get a cookie sometimes and are afraid of him

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/3992143

In truth, a historical account of the Warcraft universe reads like a war crimes trial. Empires topple, leaders are corrupted, populations are massacred, entire civilizations fall to ruin (often at their peak of power)… Warcraft is a dark place. Just ask the Draenei: We trashed their homeworld and tortured its last uncorrupted children for tens of thousands of years. We’re downright cruel. I’ve never met a more sadistic team of story folk.


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final thoughts on mistaking hardness for strength, iron vs steel Historian 13/04/09(Tue)14:55 No. 13686

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Etymology

Achilles' name can be analyzed as a combination of ἄχος (akhos) "grief" and λαός (Laos) "a people, tribe, nation, etc." In other words, Achilles is an embodiment of the grief of the people, grief being a theme raised numerous times in the Iliad (frequently by Achilles). Achilles' role as the hero of grief forms an ironic juxtaposition with the conventional view of Achilles as the hero of kleos (glory, usually glory in war).

Laos has been construed by Gregory Nagy, following Leonard Palmer, to mean a corps of soldiers, a muster. With this derivation, the name would have a double meaning in the poem: When the hero is functioning rightly, his men bring grief to the enemy, but when wrongly, his men get the grief of war. The poem is in part about the misdirection of anger on the part of leadership.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childe_Roland_to_the_Dark_Tower_Came

Judith Weissman has suggested that Browning's aim was to show how the military code of honour and glory "destroys the inner life of the would-be hero, by making us see a world hellishly distorted through Roland's eyes." William Lyon Phelps proposes three different interpretations of the poem: In the first two, the Tower is a symbol of a knightly quest. Success only comes through failure or the end is the realisation of futility. In his third interpretation, the Tower is simply damnation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_%28series%29

It tells the story of the gunslinger, Roland of Gilead, and his quest to catch the man in black, the first of many steps towards his ultimate destination - the Dark Tower.
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History student 13/03/03(Sun)16:49 No. 13566 [Reply]
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/hi/

Discuss the time periods that intrest you.


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2nd Hold in History Historian 13/04/03(Wed)08:39 No. 13655
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>>13615
The second period of missing history is the Toltec era of Meso-American history. For about two hundred years, the Toltecs were the superpower of Meso-American culture and politics. Both the Aztecs and the Mayans shared the same origin story of the Tollan being founded by the god-king, Quetzalcoatl. Tollan was an empire which conquered at least one other city state, but the archeology of the city of Tollan haven't really turned up a lot of answers. The Tolec's influence on the later Mexica Alliance (the Aztec Empire) was undeniable to the point that Aztec kings claimed to be descended from Toltecs and thus superior to all other men. We really don't know what the heck the Toltecs did to garner such incredible levels of respect lasting several centuries and across cultural borders, and we don't know what happened to them. Aztec records merely state that the Toltec civilization was wiped out by unidentified barbarians (perhaps the Aztecs themselves, I suspect). The largest part of the reason for the blank spot in the historic record is that almost all of the Aztec and Mayan libraries (called codeces) were destroyed by a specific Spanish bishop and replaced by a single book of Meso-American history that he wrote himself.


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Historian 13/04/04(Thu)03:23 No. 13658

sounds familiar...

sounds like greeks talking about how they descended from whichever olympian they felt like talking about

reminiscent of the pre-dorian invasion mycenean kingdom events too however, and that group was destroyed by rome's edicts too :D (and bastardized)


at the same time it does have a certain fall of rome feel to it from what you've said, but the mycenean kingdom had the same thing as both rome and the toltecs as well...

:D

what's the third one? :D omgomgomgomgomg wheeeee


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Historian 13/04/09(Tue)20:49 No. 13687

>>13655
So the Toltecs could even be regarded as a legendary empire? Something that was but probably greatly exaggerated by their descendants like say the Sea Peoples or the Trojans.




Historian 12/08/27(Mon)23:50 No. 12987 [Reply]
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I'm not sure if you guys are going to hate me for such a request, but I'm going to try anyway.

I'm totally ignorant to history. All my historic knowledge comes from highschool books and whatever television tells me. After being a giant ignorant douche for most of my life my interest in history has sparked again and lit an educational flame in me I did not know I had. I stumbled upon this board and for the first time I realised exactly how important history is.

The problem is, I have no idea where to start my expansion in knowledge. Could you recommend me some books or whatever medium there is for a beginner on the subject? If my request is too broad, my taste leans to anthropocentric subjects. Like the early human civilizations and the dynamics of such times.

Pic possibly related.


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Historian 13/04/16(Tue)07:43 No. 13695

because the only people who have an agenda to manipulate history are Texans or conservatives ?


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Historian 13/04/16(Tue)10:03 No. 13696
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>>13695

yes, only conservatives

actually, what the linguist would say is that by controlling the band of communication but allowing anything to be said within that spectrum is the proper method

in this case the band is typical stereotypes of conservatives and republicans

of course, they meant it in regards to "world elites" or some concept like that, but I'm fairly certain he'd cede that it happens in all sorts of situations including the one I just mentioned


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Historian 13/04/16(Tue)17:39 No. 13697

>>13695

Way to completely miss the entire point of the post.




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