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Historian 14/03/08(Sat)00:01 No. 14199 [Reply]

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What would Africa be like today if they never have had contact with outside civilizations?

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Historian 15/08/24(Mon)13:40 No. 14732

only one problem: it is not the Inuit who developed civilization, but people living in most fertile land and in a good climate.

In Africa you have places with harsh climate (Beduins on Sahara Desert), places where drought is more common than anywhere else (Ethiopia), there were empires living in constant war in Western Africa and it didn't help.

Historian 15/09/07(Mon)01:00 No. 14743

I just think that there is a cycle of need for advamncement advancement and laziness that has always applied to humans

European people can't get a break
try to trade with Asia to improve living standards
Build massive empires
>Horse archers
>sand people mad jelly and attack
Try to retain power after eliminating all struggles from their people
>the simplicity of the world of no struggles they made destroys them

I feel that life in ancient africa breeded laziness because all they had to worry about were simple things and this subsequently made rulers perhaps even societies with non-existant critical thinking skills

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Historian 15/09/07(Mon)20:37 No. 14745

I'd guess they'd be having Industrial Revolution or be approaching it. But that, of course, is nothing but a conjecture.

For example, Africa might've become more advanced than modern society.

If old Egypt didn't have to become isolationist during Broze Age Collapse, it might've went on and expanded, uniting most of Africa (not unlike Roman Empire). Consequently, it would've had an easier transition to the iron metallurgy. Might've happened as early as 5th century B.C.

Then is would be just a question of time, until an advanced monotheistic religion (and from it - atheism and scientific method) would've developed. IIRC there were a few monotheistic religions not related to Abrahamic, so no problem there.

With some luck, Africa would've had it's scientific revolution by 1000 A.D. or earlier, giving it a (relative) headstart on Industrial Revolution. 500 years later - they put human in space.

Historian 15/07/26(Sun)11:55 No. 14700 [Reply]

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How does everybody feel about the current restoration of the HRE?

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Historian 15/08/09(Sun)01:19 No. 14714

I was just thinking about that. Imagine if Russia and Germany allied for once, Germany would regain the Czech Republic, East Prussia, Poland and Austria. Russia would absorb Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland...

If they did that, no one would be able to stop them, if only they could agree

Historian 15/08/09(Sun)12:27 No. 14715

The US is already driving a wedge between them by helping out Poland though. Historically Poland has always been a pain in the ass of both countries. Also, there's been some general moves to establish a cordon around Russia. Poland is trying to secure itself as well through the Visegrad group. In any case, a lof of the countries that share a border with Russia are hard to defend, no matter the size of the force. This is especially true for the Baltics - the Russians can hit all their major cities without even having to cross the border.

Russia is really only interested in security. History has been too painful, so they want to be surrounded by at least neutral countries, which is why they are trying so hard to keep Ukraine unstable and out of any western organisations. Putin's done well enough in general, but the major failure of his reign is the inability to establish industry that could domestically refine oil and natural gas. Hence, Russia is economically vulnerable, especially seeing how the low oil prices are most likely the new normal.

Historian 15/08/14(Fri)04:01 No. 14721

Russia could really get what it needs and Putin wants by rapidly expanding its nuclear energy production.

Hilarity ensues.
Maximum entertainment value is had.

Queen Elizabeth's Nazi Salute Historian 15/07/19(Sun)12:43 No. 14689 [Reply]

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Archive footage: Edward VIII teaches Nazi salute to the Queen:

Historian 15/07/20(Mon)18:39 No. 14692

It is also a good way to hail a cab, karate chop a taller person in the throat, OR show your true feelings and utter devotion to the National Socialist Movement.

Historian 15/07/21(Tue)20:36 No. 14693

Look how excited Princess Margaret is to be part of the master race!

More historical nonsense from Manly Men Historian 15/05/21(Thu)13:04 No. 14616 [Reply]

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Found this article about octopus wrestling and eating contests with animals, and I started thinking, can we fill a textbook with historical nonsense done by men trying to be manly? So fare I've turned up the article from above http://statbonus.com/2015/04/06/2-manly-feats-of-idiotic-strength/ and this cracked bit http://www.cracked.com/article_19246_5-manliest-hobbies-youve-never-heard-of.html except that one only has a few "historical" entries.

Historian 15/05/21(Thu)16:47 No. 14617

>can we fill a textbook with historical nonsense done by men trying to be manly

No lifetime is long enough to write that book, ha!

Historian 15/07/02(Thu)00:11 No. 14662 [Reply]

Youtube  Anyone who is a fan of Retro Computer stuff should visit that Archive here. Too bad the files are not really sorted, but there are tons of Amiga, C64 and Music warez from the Demoscene.

Link is http://saphirjd.me

Berlin Wall Historical American Dumbass 15/06/27(Sat)09:33 No. 14659 [Reply]

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I have always thought about this but had never really worked how it would happen. On November 9th, 1989, the lives of every person in Germany was changed when the wall was claimed obsolete and had the first part of the wall fell only 5 days later.

But what if the Cold War never thawed? What if the Soviet economy had somehow regained it's balance and was able to continue the Cold War? What if the wall never fell?

I leave you, The people of 7chan, to think before you post, and think of the possibilities.

Historian 15/06/30(Tue)21:53 No. 14661

Likely your latter scenario . The Soviet collapse destabilized so many other parts of the world, making them ripe for the picking for the US and other NATO countries. The Middle East was never more exploited then after the Fall of the USSR. And Africa was never more ignored. Until China got its feet under it.

I would say the cold war thawed a great deal but the Russians probably feel like some old school american's do that it was better with a big bad nemesis lurking around.

ISIS and all its stupid shit are scarey and all but they will never be as good a "bad guy" as the Soviets were. The Russians (well, Putin mostly), at least from an American standpoint, seem to want to make the US their "bad guy" and get back to the good old days of nuclear weapon stockpiling, arms races, and unchecked military spending. Lets get that war cold again, there is so much more profit to be made.

To bad China is in a way better place to be the world-wide Nemesis. China would not be what it is today (good and bad) if the Soviets had stuck around.

Historian 14/11/11(Tue)09:03 No. 14463 [Reply]

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Rough idea just coming together here, but at least half the people who live in the USA want to live in another USA. ...a USA without most of the US government. ...if the Native American reservation lands are technically Sovereign Nations unto themselves, but reside within the borders of the US... they get the security of the USA by default, but...

and they were to say "heyyy, huge corporate & biotech & energy companies, all the shit the squeamish US Gov doesn't want you to do, Stem Cell research, Cloning, Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactor, etc... We're gonna designate this area over here, where you can do it all, & if your corporate headquarters & employees want to relocate here, we're simply going to extend everyone a 4% flat tax to you and your employees, and you can tell the US Gov and the IRS and SEC and their costly bureaucracy to go get stuffed.

The US Government would be woefully unable to compete with what a Tribe could offer. Those lands would quickly become the most valuable lands in the world, still owned by the tribes, because of the legal protections the tribes provide, and even on such a looow tax rate, those tribes would ensure the companies remain happy, and grow wealthy enough to not need the unreliable pittance from the US Gov, begin to acquire more of their own lands back, and finally prosper as the cool landlords of the worlds most desirable, powerful nations, probably the best role anyone could ever hope for, could stop relying on & self destructing from the casino racket, could afford to develop modern cities reflecting their own culture (instead of all the displaced european replica cities we're used to), the world would get the science it wants, etc etc etc.

If we willed our lands to Native Tribes, we'd be willing it away from the shitty US Government...

...I can't believe I'm thinking what the native americans need are giant corporations, but fuck there's a way to build an alternate USA.

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Historian 15/02/27(Fri)08:37 No. 14526

Interesting notion, but it will never happen. The concept shares the same failing as the 'sovereign citizen' movement; while I agree with the sentiments expressed, I am not so eager to be shot in the head by our bloodthirsty and paranoid Geheime Staatzpolizei.

While it is cold comfort, take solace from the fact that the Federal Government will be abolished within a half century and we will all be under Sharia law, unless our inept political leadership get their thumbs out and DO something, and that does not seem very likely to me at all.

Allahu Akbar, y'all

Historian 15/02/27(Fri)21:57 No. 14527

>we will all be under Sharia law
Step back from the computer and stop drinking the kool-aid son.

Historian 15/05/23(Sat)19:43 No. 14619

The Pequots in CT actually have an advantage there. At least, they would if they weren't losing a shit ton of cash in poor business decisions.

They open their research facility. Populate it with the people Pfizer shitcans and the kids graduating from URI. Nobody has to move far. If at all. Then they start another housing project for senior staff. Research is funded by the casino and the mall. Funds and administration is handled by the people they already have on hand. The company dregs live in the surrounding towns and cities. In time they open an academy to rake in more money.

If they didn't spend and lose millions on the MGM Grand they'd probably have enough money to do this.

Historian 15/04/27(Mon)18:17 No. 14588 [Reply]

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hi, /hi/

If we could properly determine spheres of influence in our modern world (be it cultural, political, or economic), how would you put it in map form? How do you perceive modern spheres of influence?

Some of these spheres come in political organizations (like the Iron Curtain countries in the USSR's SoI), or somethimes spheres are more abstract, and are groups within larger organizations (western Slavic countries - and most countries within the EU - being in Germany's sphere - especially economically)

Picture partially related.

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Historian 15/05/07(Thu)13:03 No. 14606

Ah okay I see, I'll try to photoshop this into a political map when I get back to my other computer, so we'll get some Victoria II type thing going on.. Thank you and well done.
I've heard Canada is being pretty silent when it comes to the power game, while it is one of the players in the middle east. Of course, being silent is a good idea so you don't come under much flak from the international community.

Historian 15/05/13(Wed)01:04 No. 14609

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hello again. sorry it took so long, I'm suffering from a terrible URTI.

Historian 15/05/15(Fri)23:48 No. 14612

I made quite a lot of mistakes, though it seemed fine when I first finished it :/ ...
Just to make things right, I'll correct the map when I have more free time.

2001 political forum game Historian 15/04/25(Sat)04:56 No. 14587 [Reply]

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This may not qualify too much as "history" even though it takes place over ten years ago, but there's a forum game going on. You play as a country. It is a game in that it has underlying mechanics and a list of possible actions to undertake (either diplomatic, economic, covert or military in character). The RP is on the light side, you don't need to write walls of texts. It also requires little time commitment to play since it's turn-based.

Link: http://z13.invisionfree.com/eRegime/index.php?act=idx

Historian 14/03/25(Tue)05:57 No. 14218 [Reply]

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Hello everyone. I've been wondering, how did the German and Western Allied troops treat one another? More importantly, how did they treat the civilians during their respective occupations of Western Europe? Of course there were crimes committed in relatively small numbers, but on the whole. Where there any major events that showed camaraderie between the troops or civilians?

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Historian 14/05/11(Sun)18:31 No. 14294

Manstein was correct; he just happened to be on the losing side, and the winners get to write the history books. Besides, everybody in the OKW had to pay lip-service to the loopy ethos of the Nazis...just like all those American generals and admirals had to smile and pretend to worship a president they absolutely loathed. Politics trumps reason and honesty every time.

Historian 14/05/20(Tue)19:01 No. 14308

>Manstein was correct; he just happened to be on the losing side, and the winners get to write the history books.

I guess that's why Stalin's purges ended up cutting down on the number of Jews in the Soviet government to the point of shit of firing most of the Jews in the foreign service so that Hitler won't have an excuse to not negotiate Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact?

Historian 14/06/09(Mon)15:45 No. 14320

Western Allies were treated fairly well by the Nazi's and vice versa. Food was in short supply in Nazi camps towards the end of the war, but not through malice of the Nazi's. Both sides took a dim view of escapee's, with the Nazi's being more unpleasant to those they caught again.

An exception were British Commando's, who trolled Hitler to the point he ordered them not to be taken prisoner. Though this was ignored by a fair chunk of the Wehrmacht.

You were fucked if you were captured on the Eastern Front though.

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