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Country Assimilation Historian 13/05/20(Mon)20:17 No. 13751 [Reply]

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hi, im interested in empires

will there be no more empires? too many pesky small countries makes me sick

i am interest of things like poland-lithuana joining empires in 18th century but now in present day

hypothetically what if America and China coagulated? Could America send it's warships to Europe and hold it down while China puts a knife to the japan, korea, and the other asian countries?

also if all those shit sand nigger countries had an shred of intelligence they'd all come under one leader and become massive powerful country, but that can never happen

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Historian 14/08/11(Mon)05:29 No. 14370

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America is a corporation.

Historian 14/08/11(Mon)08:18 No. 14371


Terrorism Pigsy 14/08/15(Fri)03:13 No. 14372

1980s: There has been a bomb in Oxford Street! and in the days before Al Qaeda there is only one prime suspect the U.S.A. sponsoring terrorists as always. The U.S. has sponsored every terrorist organisation in the world. One way or another throughout its short history the U.S. has attempted to kill you. Non-Hollywood history total U.S. casualties in the Second World War in Europe and Asia total: 418,500. And the Soviet Union: 28,000,000. the war began in 1939 the U.S. never declared war on Germany or Italy. The U.S. never come to the rescue of anybody Russia won the Second World War. The U.S. lost the Vietnam war and are losing the Afghanistan war. Hollywood is not history it’s fantasy.

Historian 13/06/13(Thu)23:03 No. 13807 [Reply]

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Slavoj Zizek doesn't know why communism failed, what are your thoughts?

Particularly i'm interested in leftist views of why communist efforts have so far been completely catastrophic. I don't really have any idea but I realise that the soviet union, maoist china or most other places which had successful revolutions installed systems that look nothing like actual what was proposed in actual communist theories.

Pls don't fill up this thread with arguing about whether or not the SU was 'true communism' - it was a catastrophe for humanity regardless of theory. Pls keep to the question, ok?

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Historian 14/08/03(Sun)10:34 No. 14363

I'd suggest taking a look into the writings of Gramsci and the Frankfurt school for some of the reasonings developed by communists for the failure of Marxism. Those two perspectives give a pretty good starting point for why communism failed, at least from within the lens of Marxist theorey-craft.

Historian 14/08/03(Sun)15:22 No. 14364

Shitty working conditions and low pay are why China makes everything.

Historian 14/08/05(Tue)19:11 No. 14365

That's an extremely oversimplified "explanation" filtered down to near meaninglessness.

just like:

High wages and good quality of life are why the USA makes nothing.

The Samson Option Historian 14/08/02(Sat)10:10 No. 14359 [Reply]

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>We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.

This threat was made against the entire world because the Paletinians were uprising against them in 2003.

Historian 14/08/02(Sat)10:38 No. 14360

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Yeah, good thing we're arming them to the teeth too, & funding this shit loud & proud.

It's funny, how what is "normal" for the US, is not this, not whatsoever. Post World War, USA decided it was better to be the worlds new Nazi's than wait for someone else to become them, and thought, fuck our entire approach as a nation, we can play the game of global geopolitics, did a massive 180, and jumped headlong into every squabble they could, granted extraordinary extra-constitutional wartime powers, and immediately sought to ensure a permanent state of war to make them permanent. These ambitious dicks had watched from the cheap seats France and Englands approach to pitting shit-tier countries against themselves internally and externally post WWI, and thought, hell, looks easy enough... So here we are nearly a century later, ten fucking failed overthrows later, still flooding every country and militant group in the entire middle east with unlimited weaponry and funding massive political instability everywhere possible on every conceivable scale.

Gee, what could possibly go wrong?

Even England and France who love this kind of shit, who created the borders to perpetuate the culture clashes in these very countries originally, after pretty successfully doing it to marginalize billions of people in Inda and nearly the entire continent of Africa, are still going, "ehhh monfraire, deez shizz is getteen oud of hand a bit I theenk, non? You ehhh, has a plan of some sort, yes?"

USA respons by renaming frenchfries.

Historian 14/04/24(Thu)14:37 No. 14274 [Reply]

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Ugh, Germans got screwed out of history, we should be living in a German America and a German Europe, but no... those filthy UK used them to keep the entirety of central and eastern Europe occupied

Someone should do something about that...

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Historian 14/06/17(Tue)22:27 No. 14335

They're listed as American Indian.

It's probably just stereotypical southern rednecks, who say they're Mericun because they live in perpetual ignorance (and fear).

Historian 14/06/25(Wed)17:20 No. 14341

Actually, Spain was the first modern European state, and it was the pressure it made over the rest of Europe what forced the others to unify themselves as well. Then everything went to shit because two good rulers in several centuries.

Germans actually did pretty well overall.

Historian 14/07/22(Tue)19:36 No. 14350

yeh, they're doing pretty well again, too. For the last couple years, they've been having to take increasingly extreme measures to avoid such a massive imbalance of power in their favor that they destabilize the rest of Europe.

Their economists are trying to avoid the extreme conditions that led to political activism and uprising a century ago, but much of it seems to be inherent and unavoidable in the people and culture.

Once their swinging social and economic pendulums both happen to align on one far end of their spectrums, shit will get interesting.

I don't understand Historian 14/07/12(Sat)21:36 No. 14347 [Reply]

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Imagine, that the Cold War ended with the victory of the Soviet Union. What would they do? Of course, tried to weaken their enemy. For example, to split the country. Encourage separatist sentiment, especially where they are. For example, in Texas. They have organized a "democratic" from the U.S. department of Texas and texans have announced a special, non-US people, unlike the yankees and dixie. However, everything turned out the opposite. And Ukraine for Russia - as Texas for USA. Which is taken from russians and now explain to them that their ukrainian "texans" - a special nation that has nothing to do with their russian "yankees" and "dixie." Of course, they will make an attempt to include Ukraine back into their state. Why would they need to think otherwise?

Historian 14/07/20(Sun)20:36 No. 14349

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Both sides lost the cold war. As long as it was running, both US and Russia considered themselves as winning. They both got the runaway military spending they wanted by providing each other with a boogeyman to point their fingers at.

When soviet union collapsed (which it was already doing culturally, even without the added effect of cold war spending bankrupting it), both sides lost their objectives.

But, ever since, our own neoconservative thinktanks have been openly about calling for another cold war. While they're quick to call everyone paying taxes and getting access to medicine or education "socialism", they see everyone in the country paying taxes for blank cheque spending on the private military & defense companies they represent a "good investment". For a while, they were hoping to spark the next cold war up with China, but China already has short-term and long-term plans on how to deal with USA, and we're both happily going down that road as it is. Ter'ism was the next stand-in, but it's been unpopular and unprofitable, because they're just shitty fucking poor people with nothing impressive to take destroy. India's the next big economically viable contender down the road (& brazil after them), but they're easily 50 years out and no one wants to wait that long. John McCain, who could have been our current president, hasn't been bashful about longing for a return to the Cold War with Russia, and Putin openly shared his desire for the same in front of the entire UN. ...and Russia really doesn't have the $ to do it yet. ...this is why their continual cozying up to China economically has everyone paying attention. China minces no words about considering us a convenient economic ally of the moment, and their #1 military enemy long-term. A couple more big deals like the last one between Russia and China go well, and we may have our able and willing boogeyman back.

So, the cold war never really ended, it's just been on hold while we await round 2. When it's seen among the wealthy elite of both our countries as being this profitable, it shouldn't be long til it's up and running again.

Historian 14/07/03(Thu)21:19 No. 14343 [Reply]

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Are animals less than people? This video answers that question.

Historian 14/07/09(Wed)07:16 No. 14346

I thought /be/ answered that question.

Historian 14/07/20(Sun)19:59 No. 14348

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less what than people?

Accomplished? Self-destructive? Worthy of life? Irrational?

Your question is incomplete, OP.

Also for hours of entertainment, google "Catholic answers do animals have souls?" and enjoy the mindblowing stupidity of people trying to simultaneously rationalize their attitudes toward the animals they love keeping around the house and the ones they eat and bulldoze into extinction.

...without a shred of animal behavior research or study cited, as usual.

Historian 14/02/07(Fri)01:14 No. 14140 [Reply]

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is there any decent pseudo-historyfic of what would have happened if the Confederacy won the civil war to the point of WW1?

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Historian 14/06/08(Sun)07:15 No. 14319

Pick 1. You can't have 2.

Historian 14/06/10(Tue)02:14 No. 14321

>Not that the agricultural south would have ever won against the industrialized north,

What are you talking about? The civil war was very close up until the end, when Lincoln decided to throw in the emancipation proclamation to make the war about slavery (when it was originally about states' rights). If he hadn't won Antietam and made the proclamation, European powers could have very easily gotten involved on the side of the South (because that was where the product was coming from). On paper, the North had many advantages, but IRL it was different.

Think of it in terms of the American revolution. Britain is to the North as the American colonies are to the South. On paper, America had a completely inferior army to Britain, worse tech, unstable manufacturing, and the fight was on home soil. The difference between Britain and America was larger than that of the North and the South. The reason America won the revolution was because they cared more than the British, who were ambivalent. This was similar to the civil war because Lincoln knew that the United States could not split, because it was forbidden in the constitution and because "united we stand, divided we fall". No one but him really cared about this though. So he pulled the smartest move in history and made the civil war about slavery, which finally convinced the North to start caring. Without that and the brutal war tactics of Sherman (and the Anaconda plan) the South was very dangerous competition.

Historian 14/06/10(Tue)08:47 No. 14322

>about states rights
The right of states to declare that their citizens can own slaves?

Yes, that's so much different than saying the civil war was about slavery.

Historian 13/09/03(Tue)21:19 No. 13908 [Reply]

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ITT biggest war criminals
inb4 hitler, himmler and other's well known guys

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Historian 14/04/20(Sun)06:30 No. 14272


Being a head of state like Churchill or Roosevelt is analogous to being a ship's captain. The actions of your subordinates are ultimately YOUR responsibility. Harris and LeMay envisioned and executed campaigns that were just as ruthless and evil as anything the Nazis or the Imperial Japanese military committed...but the generals couldn't have done so without the approval of Franklin and Winston. Ultimately, it is THEY who have earned the condemnation of history.

Historian 14/05/10(Sat)22:34 No. 14290

there was a knight in the Holy Roman Empire who was beheaded for massacres of a town ("Actions which he as a knight should have prevented")...he was killed by his own side. Im guessing there was such morality throughout history.

Also, depending on the era the chinese engaged in honorable combat and didnt necessarily try to wipe each other out (this was before Qin Shi Guang Di)

Historian 14/05/10(Sat)22:37 No. 14291

>>Actually what the allies did was return what had been meted out to them previously, but escalated to a scale that axis powers couldn't match.

The allies 'accidentally' bombed German cities and the Germans retailated. In Poland the Germans offered a surrender before attacking.

Historian 12/06/29(Fri)20:35 No. 12695 [Reply]

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What does /hi/ think of Huntingdon's Clash of Civilizations theory?

Does it actually hold any water to you?

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Historian 14/04/11(Fri)16:35 No. 14259

based north mexico (Hermosillo to be exact) is in the north american area, which is fitting because you can't seriously compare the north of mexico with the rest of mexico culturally. yay

Historian 14/04/20(Sun)04:11 No. 14268


Historian 14/05/10(Sat)22:28 No. 14288

Argentina and Chila are pretty muh white countries wo they would be the 'Western World'.

Also Haiti/Jamaica is part of 'aFrican civilization'

this isnt the map huntington uses actually.


Historian 14/04/29(Tue)06:54 No. 14276 [Reply]

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Sorry, didn't know where else to put this other than under "culture".

Some of you may be familiar with websites which host entire series and movies; Rainertamayo.com in particular brazenly hosts full videos right there, no redirects or searching through links- one click and a full episode in a youtube player.

I am curious, by what virtue does this site survive? It makes no pretense to redirect or aggregate in the style of tvduck, etc. With the times as they are, how can a website simply host this material itself unmolested? Is it some way the site is configured to defend itself, like the pirate bay's dancing from server to server? Is it a current lack of initiative on the part of powers that be? On that note, what is the current state of this struggle to control media? After SOPA and PIPA were defeated to much fanfare, it seems like the war has been.. under-reported.

What type of person is compelled to maintain a professional site such as this or the pirate bay? Do they really believe in freedom of information or do you think it's a more base, anti-authoritarian compulsion? Surely one begets the other.. pic unrelated

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Historian 14/05/02(Fri)08:37 No. 14278

Anyone can put up a website. Anyone can register a domain.

The reason these sites survive is because the various media cooperatives (MPAA, RIAA, IFPI, etc.) are not aware of their existence.

Historian 14/05/02(Fri)08:57 No. 14279

Ok let's keep it on the down low, shhh!!

Lately all Gorillavid's stuff is being taken down, it bums me out cus they used to be very reliable.

Historian 14/05/08(Thu)02:44 No. 14282

Basically the MAFIAA have paid technology companies that are down on their luck and desperate for work to write and maintain web crawlers that do the same thing Google has done for years... walk from page to page indexing pages and content and links all across the internet and back again.

If it's placed on a publicly accessible website, or a private site which they've infiltrated (because people talked about that private site on public websites), then their custom web crawler locates and identifies content and reports it back to their masters.

The only way for sites to stay under the radar is not to talk about shit in public. Otherwise it's just a matter of time.

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