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Mole Person 12/12/06(Thu)09:16 No. 602 ID: 893d21
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I aspire to live in the side of a hill.

This idea has been in the back of my mind for the past 7 months but I have only just started to put some serious thought into it. How hard could it be to find a secluded area with a large hill and covertly excavate a modestly sized living area?

One need not live in squalor either. The inside of your home would be furnished like a hobbit hole. Think wooden floors, wooden walls, comfortable furniture, and modern amenities, not a dark and fetid hobo cave.

However, there are a couple of problems that concern me.

1. My number one concern is the possibility of your cave collapsing in on itself. I assume you could erect concrete or wooden supports to prevent this from happening but I'm not going to risk my life based on an assumption.

2. In excavating your new home, lots of dirt will need to be moved in a way that does not arouse suspicion. Perhaps the digging should be done during the night.

3. How will electricity be obtained? A generator would be costly and could arouse suspicion due too noise, although a sound proof room could be made to negate this. Stealing electricity from a neighbor is always an option but increases your chances of being caught. Stealing electricity straight from the grid seems like a nice idea to me but I really don't know enough power grids to comment. I would imagine PG&E or whoever supplies the power monitors power usage closely enough to be able to figure out if anyone is illegally tapping in.

4. Plumbing could be a serious issue, although I'm willing to go without this one.

So what do you folk think?


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Modern Mom 12/12/06(Thu)09:25 No. 603 ID: a0205b

1. Build a grid-like wooden structure of wood encompassing the entire ceiling. For added support, use isometric triangles for the grid and connect the three corners to a vertical post

2. Build on the edge of a cliff; you can just throw the dirt off the side

3. You can build your own solar panels; there are guides online

4. Dig a hole and shit in it. When you're done, fill it up and dig another one.

Good luck and make sure you're not on someone's property.

Also, you can legally name any hill that hasn't been named yet (assuming you live in the US)


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Modern Mom 12/12/06(Thu)09:53 No. 604 ID: 208b5a

My mother had some genealogy done some years ago and it turned out her earliest ancestors lived in some dirt caves.

Just thought I'd mention it.


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Modern Mom 12/12/17(Mon)09:24 No. 670 ID: 791834

if it is wet at all then it will need serious water proofing. like, very extensive. location is paramount as you must take into consideration the movement of water through the ground.

it's why underground living is mostly common in dry countries/areas.


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Modern Mom 12/12/18(Tue)13:36 No. 677 ID: e96aa3

>>602
There are even a few villages like that, google.


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Man:Endangered. 12/12/26(Wed)02:27 No. 710 ID: 3f6a3f

>>602
>How hard could it be to find a secluded area with a large hill and covertly excavate a modestly sized living area?

Nowadays, it would be very hard. Everywhere seems to be pretty well populated, and well preserved places free of nearby neighbors are usually ideal spots for hikers, bicyclers and nature lovers to hang around in.


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Modern Mom 12/12/29(Sat)10:22 No. 718 ID: 913e75
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OP:
Easiest is to dig room for a small stone/wood hut halfway into the hill, carefully setting the turf aside. Then pile the dug out dirt/sand around the hut and place the turf on top of it all.


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Modern Mom 13/01/01(Tue)05:41 No. 725 ID: f94b34
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Modern Mom 13/01/02(Wed)03:32 No. 728 ID: 893d21

>>718

Ohh, great idea, now I don't have to find a place to put all the dirt I will excavate!


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Modern Mom 13/01/03(Thu)01:56 No. 731 ID: e8ecff

Google: Nuclear War Survival Skills, Will answer all your Q on building underground for the cheap, includes food, prep, and poop


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Modern Mom 13/01/03(Thu)07:58 No. 734 ID: a2c72d

For obvious reasons wood would be a terrible material choice. It rots. you could use wood , but i suggest concrete with extensive waterproofing no matter where you do it. The wood flooring and such can come later. The steel reinforced concrete would be much safer as far as cave ins to. Pluming could be done with a nearby water source, a pump system and a septic tank.


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Modern Mom 13/01/04(Fri)16:21 No. 736 ID: 105133

I don't think thats safe or cheap. Also, you'd have to at least own or rent the hill(s). You can't just buy a 30x30 chunk of a... fucking hill? You'll have to hold up 10 tons of dirt af least to get a reasonable living space. Sorry to break it to you, not likeky to work on a budget.


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Modern Mom 13/01/10(Thu)01:27 No. 756 ID: b4218b

You can move to Coober Peddy in 'Straya. You just mine for opals and when you have enough space you can declare it your house and shit. 80% of all houses there are underground. Shit is cash.


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Modern Mom 13/01/10(Thu)21:06 No. 757 ID: 913e75

>>736
Be realistic, if you are prepared to live in a dirt cave, you're probably not going to be very demanding when it comes to living space. You'll be pissing and shitting outside and probably not do much besides sleep and take cover from bad weather in your lodgings.

*Rereading OPs post I see he's aiming for Bag End, which probably would give your view some merit. Either way, I'll stick to my earlier point about building a dirt covered hut rather than an actual cave. It's an ancient building technique that also provides insulation for the tenants.


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classic O&!6AqcW0mbwk 13/01/12(Sat)09:48 No. 763 ID: 68a4cc

sometimes i like to be mobile, sometimes i pack up all my shit in my car and go look for a place to stay for a couple of days to a week. I had my pet snakes with me on a trip to UTA/UNT and I found like a thousand rabbit holes on the side of a hill... i let them out for a minute or two to see if they wanted one or two (i think rednecks eat hare as like a redneck delicassy so i thought it was fine) And that concludes my thought on living in a hole on the side of a hill...


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Modern Mom 13/02/10(Sun)19:19 No. 895 ID: c54a06

>>763
it happened again, this time i was just trying to do laundry and got lost somewhere in the city. I snuck into a hotel room and just pretended like i stayed there (for 3 days) and then at wal-mart for 2. Fuck laundry rooms, now i see why hobbos sit around drunk all the time unstead of just washing up, for a good portion of my life im going to devote to going to jail for breaking laundry matte coin whatevers and probably just being naked... this little adventure just left me with an even more equally contrasting respect for mexicans (housekeeping) and hate for tie wearing nigger faggots


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Modern Mom 13/02/10(Sun)19:25 No. 896 ID: 2fc1e1
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The side of a hill?


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Modern Mom 13/02/12(Tue)04:04 No. 907 ID: 1c0646

"r'ready had'm, thats right i a'ready haad'm" -Franklin D. Plamer


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Modern Mom 13/02/14(Thu)11:26 No. 921 ID: 25c7fb

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-an-Earthbag-Dome/
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Build-an-Insulated-Earthbag-House/
Just make it larger, and add some supports/internal structure to keep it up.
Unless you essentially pave all inside surfaces, digging out a home in an existent hill leaves poor structural integrity, and will likely be prone to collapse, leakage, and other problems.


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Modern Mom 13/02/16(Sat)03:19 No. 927 ID: b2739f

there's this radioactive bush that i know of that grows up to this power lines (i call it "bud tree" when i drive by it) i thought about digging a hole under it throwing a tarp on it and slowly carving out some living quarters slowly and meticulously inside the bush over time. What do you guys think, do-able?


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Modern Mom 13/02/22(Fri)01:52 No. 962 ID: 6a667f

Read The $50 and up Underground House Book. It's the basic book for earth-integrated houses.


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Modern Mom 13/02/22(Fri)02:07 No. 963 ID: 3fda42

It wouldn't be cheap to do, not if you want modern things like plumbing and electricity. Although being underground you wouldn't need to worry about heating and air as much as normal homes, so that's two less expenses if you're serious about it. Now I'm intrigued with the idea.


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