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nihilism/absurdism tomska 18/10/16(Tue)14:11 No. 13671 ID: 231a2f [Reply]

Hey guys im setting up this thread to discuss the differences and similarities between two popular athiest philosophies, nihilism and absurdism. Now if you are christian and want to come to this server to insult us athiest and try to force your religion on us, PLZ DONT!!!
I am not trying to insult your religion, just discuss an interesting topic with my fellow athiests. All other post will be taken down with a week of posting.

nihilism/absurdism tomska 18/10/15(Mon)17:34 No. 13667 ID: 231a2f [Reply]

Hello guys, I am putting up this board to debate the differences and similarities of nihilism and absurdism, im not here to debate the falsehoods and truths of these two religious/philosophical views and beliefs, just to compare the similarities and differences as I previously stated. And if you are religious, plz do not come to this board and try to force your beliefs on us athiests, not trying to insult your religion, just talk to my fellow nihilists and absurdists.

@ speaks @ 18/09/29(Sat)20:04 No. 13647 ID: 4320e7 [Reply]

Dear Sentient Being willing to read the following,

if you'll grant me a moment of your precious time, I am compelled to share with you a thought that has been gnawing away at my mind for the better half of my life.

With every fiber of my being do I believe that it is high time for the silent majorities of this world to step forward and begin pointing out truths however unpleasant they may be to be made aware of.

The time has come to stop patting ourselves on our collectiv(ist) backs with self-serving platitudes and at the very least begin pointing out the worst sides of our nature. The better the lighting, the easier the source of an issue can be determined and brought under control where it belongs. It is time to stop remaining silent, as if guilt-stricken for some known reason. "Speak softly and carry a big stick" is a sentiment I find myself subscribing to rather ubiquitously these days. The Ears have Walls don’t you know...

Using easily recognizable signs and communication to hold certain creature's noses into the mess of their own making until they comprehend this sort of attitude will no longer be tolerated here. Surely you have housebroken pets before and you know full well what I'm talking about. The sweet combination of tar and feathers never ceases to jump mind...

There is a time and place for everything. If you plan on becoming patient 0 of a brand-spanking-new and particularly virulent form of plague by routinely filling the basement of our building with any all sorts of the most revolting waste the food industry can summon from our nightmares, perhaps a civilized neighborhood is not the right place for you or your ilk: your welcome among us is lessening with each inconsiderate act we witness.

Please bear in mind: many of you are guests we welcomed with open arms, only to find you voiding your bowels on the accomplishments of our culture, our ancestors... Quite literally spitting on the graves of your host's ancestors... In what human society is such behavior encouraged or even tolerated, pray tell..?

The German State lacking the ability and/or will to enforce the standards of civilized surroundings we grew up with and got used to, leaving the remaining locals to fend for ourselves and make their own justice, I shall at the very least do my very best to make as many people as possible aware of the issue; by repeatedly declaring the basement area a Bio-hazard zone signposting accordingly until the sorely needed lesson sinks - in or I run out of money for paper and ink... This is after all the Age of Information.
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Anonymous 18/10/04(Thu)05:59 No. 13655 ID: ab41ea

Listen. In respect to anyone you dislike, it’s you who are untermensch and probably worse than them. I don’t know anything about the supposed usefulness of rubbing a dog’s nose in shit, so I removed many of the more vitriolic parts of my post. Just know that perfection is a psychotic pursuit which only hastens an entitiy’s destruction. Now, fuck off and try to have fun with the remainder of your shitty life.

ITT capitalism vs communism Anonymous 18/10/02(Tue)06:55 No. 13649 ID: 15ad4b [Reply]

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1. Capitalism is not authoritarian
2. Communism can be on any level
3. Communism is greed fueled by authoritarianism
4. If it gives rise to or forced communism it is communist.
5. If it gives rise to capitalism then it is capitalist.
6. ????
7. Profit!


Anonymous 18/10/02(Tue)15:28 No. 13651 ID: e2fbd5

Capitalism leads to economic authoritarianism.
Unless you have a partially soci​​alist government to do things like break up trusts and monopolies, provide welfare and enforce standards for products, services, and working conditions, capitalism eventually reverts to feudalism.
Those who own, rule.

You probably think the free market is a fair arbiter, but capitalism is built on the principal that some will have while others will not. Without poverty and deprivation, there's no incentive to work or buy. On the other hand, some will acquire great wealth and surplus, which they have no incentive to share--and again you need an at least partially soci​alist government to tax them and use the profits to elevate the least productive entities in the system before you have a communist revolution on your hands.

Then look at what's happening in China and Russia, both countries where the "communist" governments opened the floodgates to capitalist investment, saving either from complete destitution. It turns out a little capitalism in a communist country leads to substantial, sustainable growth--but only if you have an repressive government willing to disappear business moguls who break the rules.

Capitalism can give rise to communist revolution, and communism itself is becoming capitalist.

group chat nonymous 18/09/24(Mon)04:08 No. 13629 ID: 3760d6 [Reply]

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lookin for people who know much about human experimentation much like nazi human experiment i want to see truth on it no lies

nonymous 18/09/24(Mon)04:12 No. 13630 ID: 3760d6

social darwinism is philo behind it i wonder what people think about it

Anonymous 18/09/25(Tue)01:49 No. 13631 ID: 251ded

based on those experiments I’d say he was an idiot

Anonymous 18/09/25(Tue)19:01 No. 13634 ID: 5e9b44

Or he did it for the lulz.

How should emotions affect moral judgements? Anonymous 18/09/18(Tue)21:38 No. 13624 ID: 498c33 [Reply]

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I have read in the Catholic Catechism which says emotions are not good or bad but should be controlled by reason and will. Emotions can help a person intuit good or evil, and are good only insofar as they help someone do good (not when the vices pervert them). When someone lives morally, emotions reach their consummation.

How should emotions affect moral judgements? The Catechism is just one example.

Anonymous 18/09/20(Thu)07:55 No. 13625 ID: a6dac9

Define morally, emotions, etc. Is logic an emotion? Moral judgement in what context? Aren't there a lot of exceptions to any ethical system?

Anonymous 18/09/20(Thu)09:26 No. 13627 ID: 4c89fb

I'm not sure that there any problems with my question. For definitions, you would probably already have an idea of what the words mean.

For adding context, I think you are saying to limit the thread to a particular instance (like can compassion justify stealing?). What I'm trying to do is learn more generally how emotions determine morality. Maybe with some yardsticks.

And not all ethical systems are filled with exceptions. Stoics and Kantians could answer my question more simply. To them, emotions go against reason-morality is performed by reason-so there would be no impact of emotions on moral reasoning.

But maybe my example is confusing? I could elaborate on the meaning of the Catechism-what Catholics think living morally is-though it seems unnecessary.

Hans Jonas Hans jonas 18/09/09(Sun)19:54 No. 13605 ID: 4cdbe8 [Reply]

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So im having ethics class in uni, i gotta do presentation about hans jonas. Pretty chill, easy reading, but i have to propose a few questions for debating in class i can only think of one.
So anyone got ideas what could be cool debate around that dude?

Hans+jonas 18/09/09(Sun)23:01 No. 13606 ID: ad207f


Yourgay!!EwZ2AzBTIu 18/09/09(Sun)23:20 No. 13607 ID: 1e5fb7

Do you feel that Jonas' characterization that Manicheism is a form of Gnosticism is more accurate that characterizing it as an offshoot of or influenced by Gnosticism?

cheeto Anonymous 18/09/13(Thu)01:12 No. 13619 ID: e66aa5

I'm bored. Someone please explain to me aurally how I need to accept this toupeed cheetoh as my president. I'm waiting three, zero, zero, (no wait), four, one, nine, (wait still) zero, two, seven, five seconds. People always act high and mighty online but as soon as a voice is involved they lose their courage.

can pi be taken as a particular galaxy blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:24 No. 12896 ID: 4515bc [Reply]

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so i have a sort of philosophy that knowing details as the oldest grass to exist in the world and the population of the first existing dinosaurs may lead to unlocking infinity as in we can take it as a specific sort of factor as in how we see Avogadro number and such since scientist believe that the universe exapnds at what seems to be 68km per sec would it be possible if this equation which is infinity=68xmc2 as in x represting the actual diamter length whatever you may wanna call it as a standard unit

basically i made a law called the law of infinite which states that anything that goes faster than speed of which infinity increases gives infinity a value.as in just suppose you are counting 1,2,3,4 slowly if a count tell ten the infinte numbers which u were supposed to count has values now as in 5,6,7,8

while the equation wont certainly give as knowledge of the whole universe we can know the exact required of speed needed which may be distance by time whatever you call it to discover the end of infinity.i know this may not be plausible but i need your guys thoughts on it

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blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:33 No. 12898 ID: 4515bc

goaddmait mistake again i mean the diamter of the galaxy that squares with pi as i believe pi is sort of like a mathematical key in this equation

Anonymous 18/08/14(Tue)16:00 No. 13597 ID: b6c80a

sounds like a word-salad philosophy of pseudo-arbitrarily determined scientifically referenced conceptual terms noncoherently structured as to imply as a consequence a psychologically determined arbitrary-valued non-sensible proposition through the blurring of logic through ambiguous translation of symbolic sequences.

>speed of which infinity increases
you might be interested in reading about limits, fast growing hierarchies, transfinite sets and cardinalities/ordinalities

if you mean deriving a standard unit of measurement as a natural unit from the growth rate of the universe... eh its novel but there are problems, just use planck's.

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Anonymous 18/09/01(Sat)07:40 No. 13603 ID: 8c87d4 [Reply]

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Natural is defined by Oxford dictionary as "Existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind."

Process is defined as "A series of actions or steps taken in order to achieve a particular end."

The words together mean a process that was produced without a conscious agent.

Now here is the evidence that this belief is subjective and therefore doesn't exist.

A conscious agent is a being who is aware of it's surroundings and has the ability to act upon it.

Birds, beavers, humans are examples of Conscious Agents. We know they are because they build things such nests, dams, and jet engines. Showing they are indeed Conscious of the surrounding materials and they have the ability to act on them.

Conscious agents can produce processes that are said to be products of natural process, but natural process cannot produce processes created by conscious agents such as birds nests, beaver dams, and jet engines.

All of the material that Conscious agents have access to is the same material that natural process has access too.
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Anarchist Q&A Anonymous 18/08/18(Sat)01:24 No. 13599 ID: c89d35 [Reply]

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(Doesn't even have to be about my politics)

I'm sick and fucking tired of seeing people over worked, over taxed, and under payed. Fire at will.

Anonymous 18/08/18(Sat)12:46 No. 13601 ID: 2ce276

sure why not

Given that, without civil government, people ultimately come under the power of the strongest and most aggressive forces who eventually demand the wealth of others (e.g., the mafia), how does your anarchist stance *sustainably* help people to have more leisure time, reduce their taxes, or receive fairer compensation for their work?

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