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White Guilt isn't why Whites are distressed. Being extorted is. Anonymous 18/11/16(Fri)14:39 No. 13715 ID: d74134 [Reply]
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"[I feel] the same as everybody else, only more consciously."
-Ayn Rand, Tom Snyder interview, 1979

The distress associated with Whites' acquiescence to extortion (Whites paying nonWhites to prevent them destroying) is
mistaken for White guilt, when the distress is actually proximity to minorities who coerce Whites.

While the emotion (distress) is the same, remedying this distress requires treating its actual source-- which is not White guilt, but rather proximity to nonWhites who coerce Whites.

Recognizing that White guilt cannot exist because guilt requires us (not have wronged another) does not free us from distress.
But recognizing the interplay (coercion and extortion) between Whites and nonWhites in close proximity does show us a rational cause of our distress, and the method by which to decrease it: more distance between Whites and nonWhites.


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LOLIHAET!PIZZA3TepE!!AvZQpjAGLj 18/12/10(Mon)22:19 No. 13803 ID: 5ac05a

>>13793

Rand: "People need to be self-reliant, doing things in their own interests, even if it pushes some people down."
*Libertarians take her ideas, modify them to suit their needs, and use her popularity to and help popularize libertarianism*
Rand: "NO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!!!1!!!!"

How the fuck can anyone take such a femcuck so seriously?


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Anonymous 18/12/12(Wed)04:20 No. 13808 ID: b21d9d

>>13803
A dead philosopher isn't around to refute whatever interpretation of their philosophy you come up with.

No one takes her seriously; they take themselves seriously and wrap their own ideology in the tattered remains of hers.


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Anonymous 18/12/22(Sat)15:15 No. 13829 ID: f100db
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>>13808
The nice thing about Ayn Rand is she's so recent and relatively popular in a "goddamn this author is batshit insane" kind of way that there's lots of interviews with her where she flat-out states which groups are doing what based on her writings and how they're completely misinterpreting what she wrote. Since most of those groups, like American Libertarians, have continued forward to today with very little in the way of changes, we can easily take what she said then about them then and continue to apply it to them.

Then there's what she actually did while she was alive, which had virtually nothing to do with what she wrote about. Since, unlike the people she so often railed about, she wasn't actually stupid enough to take what she wrote seriously. Pic related.




Anonymous 18/09/01(Sat)07:40 No. 13603 ID: 8c87d4 [Reply]
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Natural is defined by Oxford dictionary as "Existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind."

Process is defined as "A series of actions or steps taken in order to achieve a particular end."

The words together mean a process that was produced without a conscious agent.

Now here is the evidence that this belief is subjective and therefore doesn't exist.

A conscious agent is a being who is aware of it's surroundings and has the ability to act upon it.

Birds, beavers, humans are examples of Conscious Agents. We know they are because they build things such nests, dams, and jet engines. Showing they are indeed Conscious of the surrounding materials and they have the ability to act on them.

Conscious agents can produce processes that are said to be products of natural process, but natural process cannot produce processes created by conscious agents such as birds nests, beaver dams, and jet engines.

All of the material that Conscious agents have access to is the same material that natural process has access too.
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Anonymous 18/12/08(Sat)03:27 No. 13796 ID: 3744da

The definition of Natural by the Oxford dictionary presented in the OP appears to me to be calling humankind an alien species in terms of it's relationship to the entity "nature".

Provided meaning of "Natural Process" implies conscious intention.

Is consciousness alien technology?
Would every type of consciousness be a different alien species?




Anonymous 18/05/19(Sat)17:45 No. 13530 ID: 1c68b3 [Reply]
13530

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Time is a fantasy; there is no such thing.


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Anonymous 18/12/05(Wed)15:21 No. 13786 ID: 4b92a2

>>13530
5 niggers from now OP will be hit by a truck


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Anonymous 18/12/05(Wed)15:49 No. 13788 ID: 8a0547
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>>13786
That's two and half double-niggers, but how long is a nigger?


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Anonymous 18/12/05(Wed)19:38 No. 13790 ID: e9a682
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>>13788
1.5x as long as a white man.




Time Theory Anonymous 18/11/28(Wed)05:44 No. 13768 ID: 7c84ca [Reply]
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What is the theory that time is a human construct and the way our brains process reality. Everything is simultaneously happening. Possibly related to the feeling of mushrooms where every moment is like a still image instead of a flowing video, as well as life being like a video of multiple still images? Where can I read more on a related philosophy




nihilism/absurdism tomska 18/10/16(Tue)14:11 No. 13671 ID: 231a2f [Reply]

Hey guys im setting up this thread to discuss the differences and similarities between two popular athiest philosophies, nihilism and absurdism. Now if you are christian and want to come to this server to insult us athiest and try to force your religion on us, PLZ DONT!!!
I am not trying to insult your religion, just discuss an interesting topic with my fellow athiests. All other post will be taken down with a week of posting.


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Anonymous 18/11/21(Wed)20:00 No. 13744 ID: 24af14

You have two versions of the same thread. I think this is the more recent one.

Anyway, nihilism and absurdism both recognize that meaning is an abstract mental concept and therefore nothing has meaning in the absence of an interpreter. Real is what exists even after you stop believing in it, so meaning isn’t traditionally real.

Both conflate purpose, meaning, and value. They say that if there is no inherent value and there is no inherent purpose, you’re free to do whatever. The subjective values and reasons you hold onto can be important, even if they aren’t objectively real, or you can live as though nothing is important to you.

Nihilism isn’t a complete life philosophy so much as it is a philosophical observation, the observation that the universe is inherently meaningless. Absurdism can mean simply noticing that things are absurd, like the term ‘absurdist comedy’, but (if I remember correctly) I think Absurdism was also the name for Camus’ personal philosophy. If you want to know more about Camus’ personal philosophy, I suggest you read his books. If you want an easier read, you can read The Stranger, a short novel possibly illustrating how Camus feels about the absurdity of existence.

One thing I think was weird about Nietzsche was how he spoke as though someone who does what I said earlier and “holds onto their subjective values and reasons” is no longer a nihilist. That’s kind of semantical of me, though. Nietzsche thought that people who refused to hold subjective values, and reasons for existence, were essentially pathetic cowards. Nietzsche believed in cultivating the ego and scultping the personality to harness the divine, creative energy which flows through all “great men” and helped them forge modern society.




Beware of Mind Parasites truther 18/11/06(Tue)17:02 No. 13696 ID: 8c8782 [Reply]
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Workers of the world unite. You have nothing to lose but your chains.

https://youtu.be/APLq8-sMhYs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7stkNCJwaro




Anonymous 16/11/06(Sun)06:36 No. 12702 ID: 57a468 [Reply]
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What is this, /phi/?


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chair anon 18/10/04(Thu)14:59 No. 13657 ID: a926a8

it is the most used example in philosophy to explain examples or the example itself. Therefore, its a metaexample


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not just a chair tomska 18/10/15(Mon)18:33 No. 13669 ID: 231a2f

This is a symbol of having something to leans and rest on. And a friend that you can go to when you are down. A place to rest when you are overwhelmed, This is... Mans best friend.


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Anonymous 18/10/22(Mon)08:54 No. 13679 ID: 848b2c

>>13510
If one prints out enough copies of them, compresses and heats the stacks of copies into a kind of plywood, cuts that wood into the right shapes and then nails or screws it together, they would have a chair.

Or if the monitor they are looking at this picture on happens to be a CRT, they could easily use it as a chair. Or a wrecking ball...




Anonymous 18/09/10(Mon)09:32 No. 13608 ID: 7fc04c [Reply]
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In Theravada Buddhism, a person can become a god, and during godhood attain a state of enlightenment which results in ending the cycle of rebirth. Some of the final stages of this cycle involve letting go of the will to live, followed by letting go of the will to exist in any form. Losing the will to live or exist at all happens exclusively in god form. After losing the will to exist, conciet, restlessness, and ignorance go away too. Then, nirvana is attained and the person isn’t born again.

Talk about glorifying suicide.


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Anonymous 18/09/29(Sat)10:51 No. 13643 ID: 3f71f7

>>13637
Sure, that pretty much sums up the "in the image of God" that Christians have, but I don't see the metaphorical dumping of the glass taking place in any material sense.

I see that coming to realize one's part in the whole--that one is the part of the one in some sense--is good for the spirit, but I don't ever see you getting dumped back into the ocean until you're dead.

The ego will always continue to exist in the world, as we are all separate entities in the world.
Once you've come to the realization that you are part of the whole, you don't feel bad when the ego is poked, and that's one of the differences between someone with a more mature spiritual outlook and a person that's an ego maniac.




"Talk about glorifying suicide."

Yeah, I get some nihilistic vibes from buddhism.


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Anonymous 18/10/04(Thu)06:04 No. 13656 ID: ab41ea

>>13643
It sounds like the beliefs of >>13637 are based on the notion of God and possibly the immaterial soul.


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Anonymous 18/10/18(Thu)01:37 No. 13674 ID: 694780

>>13643
There is no "dumping back" because we never left the ocean,the waves affect everybody even if you don't see it.After having this realization you will treat the ego as it really is,an entity that has it's own desires.
And in the end all your problems are cause by that same desire.




nihilism/absurdism tomska 18/10/15(Mon)17:34 No. 13667 ID: 231a2f [Reply]

Hello guys, I am putting up this board to debate the differences and similarities of nihilism and absurdism, im not here to debate the falsehoods and truths of these two religious/philosophical views and beliefs, just to compare the similarities and differences as I previously stated. And if you are religious, plz do not come to this board and try to force your beliefs on us athiests, not trying to insult your religion, just talk to my fellow nihilists and absurdists.




@ speaks @ 18/09/29(Sat)20:04 No. 13647 ID: 4320e7 [Reply]

Dear Sentient Being willing to read the following,

if you'll grant me a moment of your precious time, I am compelled to share with you a thought that has been gnawing away at my mind for the better half of my life.

With every fiber of my being do I believe that it is high time for the silent majorities of this world to step forward and begin pointing out truths however unpleasant they may be to be made aware of.

The time has come to stop patting ourselves on our collectiv(ist) backs with self-serving platitudes and at the very least begin pointing out the worst sides of our nature. The better the lighting, the easier the source of an issue can be determined and brought under control where it belongs. It is time to stop remaining silent, as if guilt-stricken for some known reason. "Speak softly and carry a big stick" is a sentiment I find myself subscribing to rather ubiquitously these days. The Ears have Walls don’t you know...

Using easily recognizable signs and communication to hold certain creature's noses into the mess of their own making until they comprehend this sort of attitude will no longer be tolerated here. Surely you have housebroken pets before and you know full well what I'm talking about. The sweet combination of tar and feathers never ceases to jump mind...

There is a time and place for everything. If you plan on becoming patient 0 of a brand-spanking-new and particularly virulent form of plague by routinely filling the basement of our building with any all sorts of the most revolting waste the food industry can summon from our nightmares, perhaps a civilized neighborhood is not the right place for you or your ilk: your welcome among us is lessening with each inconsiderate act we witness.

Please bear in mind: many of you are guests we welcomed with open arms, only to find you voiding your bowels on the accomplishments of our culture, our ancestors... Quite literally spitting on the graves of your host's ancestors... In what human society is such behavior encouraged or even tolerated, pray tell..?

The German State lacking the ability and/or will to enforce the standards of civilized surroundings we grew up with and got used to, leaving the remaining locals to fend for ourselves and make their own justice, I shall at the very least do my very best to make as many people as possible aware of the issue; by repeatedly declaring the basement area a Bio-hazard zone signposting accordingly until the sorely needed lesson sinks - in or I run out of money for paper and ink... This is after all the Age of Information.
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Anonymous 18/10/04(Thu)05:59 No. 13655 ID: ab41ea

Listen. In respect to anyone you dislike, it’s you who are untermensch and probably worse than them. I don’t know anything about the supposed usefulness of rubbing a dog’s nose in shit, so I removed many of the more vitriolic parts of my post. Just know that perfection is a psychotic pursuit which only hastens an entitiy’s destruction. Now, fuck off and try to have fun with the remainder of your shitty life.




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