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ITT capitalism vs communism Anonymous 18/10/02(Tue)06:55 No. 13649 ID: 15ad4b [Reply]
13649

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Rules:
1. Capitalism is not authoritarian
2. Communism can be on any level
3. Communism is greed fueled by authoritarianism
4. If it gives rise to or forced communism it is communist.
5. If it gives rise to capitalism then it is capitalist.
6. ????
7. Profit!

Go


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Anonymous 18/10/02(Tue)15:28 No. 13651 ID: e2fbd5

>>13649
Capitalism leads to economic authoritarianism.
Unless you have a partially soci​​alist government to do things like break up trusts and monopolies, provide welfare and enforce standards for products, services, and working conditions, capitalism eventually reverts to feudalism.
Those who own, rule.

You probably think the free market is a fair arbiter, but capitalism is built on the principal that some will have while others will not. Without poverty and deprivation, there's no incentive to work or buy. On the other hand, some will acquire great wealth and surplus, which they have no incentive to share--and again you need an at least partially soci​alist government to tax them and use the profits to elevate the least productive entities in the system before you have a communist revolution on your hands.

Then look at what's happening in China and Russia, both countries where the "communist" governments opened the floodgates to capitalist investment, saving either from complete destitution. It turns out a little capitalism in a communist country leads to substantial, sustainable growth--but only if you have an repressive government willing to disappear business moguls who break the rules.

Capitalism can give rise to communist revolution, and communism itself is becoming capitalist.




group chat nonymous 18/09/24(Mon)04:08 No. 13629 ID: 3760d6 [Reply]
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lookin for people who know much about human experimentation much like nazi human experiment i want to see truth on it no lies


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nonymous 18/09/24(Mon)04:12 No. 13630 ID: 3760d6

social darwinism is philo behind it i wonder what people think about it


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Anonymous 18/09/25(Tue)01:49 No. 13631 ID: 251ded

>>13629
based on those experiments I’d say he was an idiot


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Anonymous 18/09/25(Tue)19:01 No. 13634 ID: 5e9b44

>>13631
Or he did it for the lulz.




How should emotions affect moral judgements? Anonymous 18/09/18(Tue)21:38 No. 13624 ID: 498c33 [Reply]
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I have read in the Catholic Catechism which says emotions are not good or bad but should be controlled by reason and will. Emotions can help a person intuit good or evil, and are good only insofar as they help someone do good (not when the vices pervert them). When someone lives morally, emotions reach their consummation.

How should emotions affect moral judgements? The Catechism is just one example.


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Anonymous 18/09/20(Thu)07:55 No. 13625 ID: a6dac9

Define morally, emotions, etc. Is logic an emotion? Moral judgement in what context? Aren't there a lot of exceptions to any ethical system?


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Anonymous 18/09/20(Thu)09:26 No. 13627 ID: 4c89fb

I'm not sure that there any problems with my question. For definitions, you would probably already have an idea of what the words mean.

For adding context, I think you are saying to limit the thread to a particular instance (like can compassion justify stealing?). What I'm trying to do is learn more generally how emotions determine morality. Maybe with some yardsticks.

And not all ethical systems are filled with exceptions. Stoics and Kantians could answer my question more simply. To them, emotions go against reason-morality is performed by reason-so there would be no impact of emotions on moral reasoning.

But maybe my example is confusing? I could elaborate on the meaning of the Catechism-what Catholics think living morally is-though it seems unnecessary.




Hans Jonas Hans jonas 18/09/09(Sun)19:54 No. 13605 ID: 4cdbe8 [Reply]
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So im having ethics class in uni, i gotta do presentation about hans jonas. Pretty chill, easy reading, but i have to propose a few questions for debating in class i can only think of one.
So anyone got ideas what could be cool debate around that dude?


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Hans+jonas 18/09/09(Sun)23:01 No. 13606 ID: ad207f

bump


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Yourgay!!EwZ2AzBTIu 18/09/09(Sun)23:20 No. 13607 ID: 1e5fb7

Do you feel that Jonas' characterization that Manicheism is a form of Gnosticism is more accurate that characterizing it as an offshoot of or influenced by Gnosticism?


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cheeto Anonymous 18/09/13(Thu)01:12 No. 13619 ID: e66aa5

I'm bored. Someone please explain to me aurally how I need to accept this toupeed cheetoh as my president. I'm waiting three, zero, zero, (no wait), four, one, nine, (wait still) zero, two, seven, five seconds. People always act high and mighty online but as soon as a voice is involved they lose their courage.




can pi be taken as a particular galaxy blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:24 No. 12896 ID: 4515bc [Reply]
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so i have a sort of philosophy that knowing details as the oldest grass to exist in the world and the population of the first existing dinosaurs may lead to unlocking infinity as in we can take it as a specific sort of factor as in how we see Avogadro number and such since scientist believe that the universe exapnds at what seems to be 68km per sec would it be possible if this equation which is infinity=68xmc2 as in x represting the actual diamter length whatever you may wanna call it as a standard unit



basically i made a law called the law of infinite which states that anything that goes faster than speed of which infinity increases gives infinity a value.as in just suppose you are counting 1,2,3,4 slowly if a count tell ten the infinte numbers which u were supposed to count has values now as in 5,6,7,8


while the equation wont certainly give as knowledge of the whole universe we can know the exact required of speed needed which may be distance by time whatever you call it to discover the end of infinity.i know this may not be plausible but i need your guys thoughts on it


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blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:33 No. 12898 ID: 4515bc

goaddmait mistake again i mean the diamter of the galaxy that squares with pi as i believe pi is sort of like a mathematical key in this equation


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Anonymous 18/08/14(Tue)16:00 No. 13597 ID: b6c80a

>>12896
sounds like a word-salad philosophy of pseudo-arbitrarily determined scientifically referenced conceptual terms noncoherently structured as to imply as a consequence a psychologically determined arbitrary-valued non-sensible proposition through the blurring of logic through ambiguous translation of symbolic sequences.

>speed of which infinity increases
you might be interested in reading about limits, fast growing hierarchies, transfinite sets and cardinalities/ordinalities

if you mean deriving a standard unit of measurement as a natural unit from the growth rate of the universe... eh its novel but there are problems, just use planck's.


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Anonymous 18/09/11(Tue)11:54 No. 13612 ID: f398a4
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>>12896
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Anarchist Q&A Anonymous 18/08/18(Sat)01:24 No. 13599 ID: c89d35 [Reply]
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Anarchist Q&A; ASK ME ANYTHING
(Doesn't even have to be about my politics)

I'm sick and fucking tired of seeing people over worked, over taxed, and under payed. Fire at will.


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Anonymous 18/08/18(Sat)12:46 No. 13601 ID: 2ce276

sure why not

Given that, without civil government, people ultimately come under the power of the strongest and most aggressive forces who eventually demand the wealth of others (e.g., the mafia), how does your anarchist stance *sustainably* help people to have more leisure time, reduce their taxes, or receive fairer compensation for their work?




a weird theory Anonymous 18/08/05(Sun)20:25 No. 13593 ID: c65d45 [Reply]

right, this might just sound incoherent. i don't know, but i'll try and make sense.

so, for this, i'll operate on the assumption that there is no after life, and life is just from the moment your first memory is formed to your death.

and time, as far as each person is concerned, is only defined by how they experience it.

so each person's life is, to them, a literal eternity.

considering this, will their last moment last an eternity? i figure, it's like when you fall asleep, you're only aware that you suddenly weren't awake because you wake up the next day.

if you don't have anything afterwards to compare it to, will your last moment just seem to last an eternity? you know, almost like something being sucked into a black hole; from the outside looking in, it starts to slow down more and more until reaching a standstill and then fading out.

i don't fucking know, maybe i'm high.


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Anonymous 18/08/18(Sat)02:59 No. 13600 ID: d78f1a

Human expectation does not define reality.

>life is just from the moment your first memory is formed to your death
You can have no understanding of memory even and still be very much alive. It does not matter what you remember.

>each person's life is, to them, a literal eternity
Does not follow in the least. Life may feel long, yet this notion one may form does not effect the universe. An eternity is not the same as all that you have.

>i don't fucking know, maybe i'm high.
I didn't like your theory.


Look, here's what you're essentially trying to say, right;

We all have lives that we experience end to end and because it's from our perspective it must be unending.
Message too long. Click here to view the full text.




Survey anonymous 16/04/25(Mon)18:29 No. 12516 ID: 0016ca [Reply]
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On a scale of one to ten, how much do you believe in higher intelligence?
Higher intelligence can be God/Allah, or even aliens.


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Anonymous 18/06/24(Sun)21:24 No. 13559 ID: a521d4

>>12516
10/10, but considering how humans love to abuse their intelligence and my continual growing distrust of humans and particularly of those with great intelligence that abuse it for manipulation makes me that much more likely not to listen to a higher intelligence unless they approached me in a very specific manner that not even I know of.


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Voltairine+de+Cleyre 18/07/21(Sat)06:57 No. 13570 ID: ee23ac

1/10
The possibility is there but the probability based on current understanding is quite low.


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eh?? your f u c c i n g mom 18/08/04(Sat)22:31 No. 13591 ID: 0a48be

I mean, seeing as though early Christianity, early Buddhism, classical Cynicism, and maybe Taoism all oddly enough hold enough water to actually benefit humans on an individual level, I'd like to think that *something* inspired these guys to invent those systems.

Otherwise, those guys were high as f u c c and accidentally made up something genius.




Can Christians study bushido code and miyamoto's 21 principles? Anonymous 18/07/29(Sun)04:57 No. 13575 ID: 7e9ea9 [Reply]

Hay anons

I am of the Christian faith, but my weeb self also loves Japan so much that I decided to start looking into bushido code. The other day I came across "Miyamoto Musashi's" 21 principles for life. I am worried about reading these principles because i read that they are heavily derived from daoism. As a Christian should i not be reading these? I've read that it is okay for christians to read different philsophies, but i feel like a philosophy heavily rooted in another religion is treading on dangerous territory. maybe i am overthinking this?

Miyamoto Musashi is suppose to be the most famous samurai of all time so i thought it'd be cool to read and try to start considering his principles.


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Anonymous 18/07/30(Mon)23:18 No. 13586 ID: 1209a2

if you truly understand the message of Christ, learning all other religious traditions and ideas will only strengthen and reinforce your Christian understanding. You have nothing to fear, or even feel the least bit strange about.




Can Christians study Bushido Code/Zen/Musashi's 21 principles Anonymous 18/07/29(Sun)04:58 No. 13576 ID: 7e9ea9 [Reply]
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Hay anons

I am of the Christian faith, but my weeb self also loves Japan so much that I decided to start looking into bushido code. The other day I came across "Miyamoto Musashi's" 21 principles for life. I am worried about reading these principles because i read that they are heavily derived from daoism. As a Christian should i not be reading these? I've read that it is okay for christians to read different philsophies, but i feel like a philosophy heavily rooted in another religion is treading on dangerous territory. maybe i am overthinking this?

Miyamoto Musashi is suppose to be the most famous samurai of all time so i thought it'd be cool to read and try to start considering his principles.


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Anonymous 18/07/29(Sun)09:16 No. 13578 ID: 7e9ea9
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>>13577
I did not know Zen was compatible with most religions.

That's true, I could just replace Buddha with God.

There is one principle that talks about following "The Way". I like to replace "Way" with "God's Plan".

Over the years I've felt too that the scriptures were subject to interpretation.

This was a relieving response thank you.


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Anonymous 18/07/30(Mon)20:40 No. 13585 ID: 0f52f2

It's not wildly unreasonable to predict that choosing to live by a warrior code may lead to studying a martial art in order to more directly experience what it's like to put those principles and virtues into practice. A few places even market some kinds of Christian martial arts. In theory, it sounds like just the thing for you. In practice, however, the execution seems to lean toward performing cheesy choreography in front of a slide show with random scripture quotes rather than learning anything spiritual or philosophical. It's the same negative feeling as I get with the genre of contemporary Christian worship music, which is notorious for its reputation of only providing the blandest, mass-market version of both rock music and Christian belief.

Just keep that in mind when you research these things. You'd quickly become disillusioned with anyone trying to half-ass Musashi's words, let alone Jesus'.


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Anonymous 18/07/31(Tue)05:48 No. 13587 ID: b7f622

>Christian faith
>bushido code
Why do christfags think every philosophy that isn't derived from the bible somehow conflicts with their religious dogma?

Do you see how your narrow-minded religion undermines your capacity for free thought and potential as a human being?




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