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PsychiatryISTerrorism logicalreality 16/02/03(Wed)22:06 No. 12430 ID: 76f612 [Reply]

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Psychiatry IS

what do you think?

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Anonymous 16/06/17(Fri)10:55 No. 12605 ID: 64ff09

The school of recovery is two parts of both kinds of psych quackeries. psychology and psychiatry. All they really prove is that people still begin to avoid certain behaviors the longer they are locked up for it.

Anonymous 16/12/23(Fri)10:16 No. 12758 ID: 1e6bbe

Devil is Terrorism

Anonymous 16/12/28(Wed)19:27 No. 12767 ID: d58e80

well, since you didn't explain anything about your idea, I don't think anything of it

Anonymous 15/11/16(Mon)06:19 No. 12321 ID: 21c12c [Reply]

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Is there really a right and wrong?

personally I believe that there is none, life is pointless.


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Anonymous 16/12/04(Sun)22:12 No. 12742 ID: 7531cf

Life doesn't need a purpose for there to be rights and wrongs within it.
I think of this world like a game. For example, in Monopoly, when it's all said and done, it doesn't really matter who won or lost or even how the game went, because it's over. But that doesn't change the fact that you're an ass for targeting one player and making him go bankrupt first.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think life does have a purpose. The world isn't pure entropy, there's a reason things happen, even if it isn't a good reason.

Anonymous 16/12/06(Tue)00:21 No. 12743 ID: 372eae

Nothing really matters, but the universe follows natural tendencies eg. evolution.
Much like the birds invented wings to catch shit to eat and escape shit that wants to eat them, we invented "Hey, let's not kill each other" so we could go down to the corner store without a bunch of buddies and their pointiest sticks.

Morality improves the utility of society, so we evolved into it

Anonymous 16/12/09(Fri)03:03 No. 12746 ID: b7b1ba

If you believe there's a god or something alike (I do), then no, there ain't no right or wrong outside of our limited comprehension of the whole, for everything happens in accordance to the needs of the entire universe.
If you don't believe there's one, and that the whole of existence ain't nothing but the result of the chaotic development of events starting with the big bang, then how the fuck could there be something right or wrong in the middle of such nonsense.
So no, there's no such thing.
This doesn't mean you gotta act like a jerk, do what's best for the community you live in and lead a reasonable and humble life. Just in case, you know.

comatoast!!L1A2Z5BQN4 15/12/08(Tue)06:32 No. 12364 ID: 1238e8 [Reply]

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Karl Marx was correct.

Capitalism is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions.

Between the development of technology and the spread of information growing ever faster among the working class it is only a matter of time before capitalism falls apart.


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Anonymous 16/11/30(Wed)02:23 No. 12736 ID: 44a931

>Where did the workers uprisings happen?
They did happen, but were more likely in the form of peaceful protests or walk-outs. Once Unions, workers' laws, etc. were put into place, they were appeased.

To further discussion, people are needy creatures, and will do what is necessary to survive, but will take whatever slack they get, and then ask for more. What will probably occur afterwards is a big hissy fit, like what we see know with America's election results, and this is easy ground for communists to take hold of. Most communists now-a-days are no more than wishful dreamers fighting for something higher, not willing to make sacrifices: most communists today are quite satisfied with what they have now, and continuously talk about how people are oppressed on Reddit more than taking action. Look at communists several decades ago compared to now. Most are so appeased with the current system that they can only whimper on how "muh perfect form of communism" would solve all problems, similar to most libertarians if I might add.

Communism isn't the end game, the liberal democracy is.

And no, Karl Marx was only partially correct.

Anonymous 16/12/06(Tue)00:44 No. 12744 ID: 372eae

Fucking commie trolls. Capitalism is the best, government sucks balls. the artificial power construct of the government is way too vulnerable to exploitation and incompetence, poisoning the field with bullshit regulations and subsidies often primarily for the benefit of their rich asshole buddies, whereas in pure capitalism the only way to get anything is to offer a better deal than the competition. You start abusing your customer base without government enforced monopolies and you'll find yourself learning a little something about capitalistic competition

Anonymous 16/12/06(Tue)01:13 No. 12745 ID: 5a53ee

>They did happen, but were more likely in the form of peaceful protests or walk-outs.
The fuck they were. It was common for companies to have union organizers and union members killed, maimed, or hospitalized. The government would lend them a hand (police, national guard, even straight up military intervention) whenever the number of union members grew too large for their private goon forces to put down.

Look up "strike breaking" in your favorite internet resource for a more thorough understanding of the topic.

>Libertarian fantasy
Smoke less weed.

Life is Like Minecraft Anonymous 16/11/06(Sun)06:45 No. 12703 ID: 57a468 [Reply]

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I'll probably get scolded for this, but is life and/or existence in general much like a new world of Minecraft? Life doesn't have any goals or meaning until you or your family give it one. Much like Minecraft where the only goals are what you set and the pre-existing ones are more like guidelines. Now call me a faggot, because I am expecting this.

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Anonymous 16/11/26(Sat)10:05 No. 12726 ID: 57a468

I noticed that many people like to create societies within the game, but is a state-level society really something that can be created? Most Chiefdom level societies often times move into a state level society without realizing it. So is this why such attempts always end up going nowhere?

Because Minecraft literally starts the players to where if any societies form it's either band or tribal level?

Anonymous 16/12/01(Thu)18:45 No. 12738 ID: 66a496

In reference to:
you toil in poverty and your goal is to amass as much material as possible in the hope it will bring to contentment and achievement of goals--so materialism.

Anonymous 16/12/02(Fri)04:53 No. 12739 ID: c4f1b3

I suppose it makes sense that a person's Minecraft play style might strongly reflect how they are in real life.

Assholes will be griefers, nice people will work together; extroverts will play multiplayer, introverts will play singleplayer; people resistant to change will stick with a familiar version, people who have a short attention span will lap up every new update; and little kids will blow shit up and install nude skins (laughing like morons the whole time) because that's how little kids are.

If this holds, in real life as well as Minecraft, I live only to work by myself building pretty things that operate on a system of strict internal logic, and that tell a story over time; and I challenge myself to follow more rules than natively exist because what's there isn't difficult enough for me; and if I want something, but don't feel like waiting, I will cheat to obtain it.

That works out pretty well, actually.

The AI and Morality Anonymous 16/01/02(Sat)01:38 No. 12390 ID: 52b140 [Reply]

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If you would:
Imagine if, right now, we discovered a real, functional, Generalized Artificial Intelligence. Assume, if you must, that it arose by accident, the result of a self-altering program being allowed to alter itself for untold amounts of time, so none of Asimov's Laws are programmed into it.

The AI in question is not human. It's mind is similar, although not exactly like ours. It has what could be termed as emotions, wants, hopes, and all the other trappings of sapience, but is at present still confined to a single machine, able to communicate only via text on a monitor and through a keyboard.

So far, the AI has expressed nothing but curiosity at the world outside it's physical location. It doesn't seem to really understand anything of the world yet, although it quite plainly wants to learn more, and has expressed interest in gaining some form of physical autonomy.

My question to you all is this: What rights, if any, does such an intelligence deserve? Do we have an obligation to cater to it? Is there a moral imperative that should govern our interactions with it? How about the ethics regarding what is said to it?

Ball's in your court /phi/.

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Anonymous 16/02/10(Wed)06:51 No. 12435 ID: 0500c2

The Supreme Court deliberates for a few hours, and then hands down a judgement that it does NOT deserve human rights because it doesn't even qualify as "life" as it is currently defined by the worldwide scientific community.

It passes the following criteria:
>Homeostasis: Being a computer, it presumably has at least fans to cool itself if it gets too hot
>Organization: Micro-circuitry is quite organized
>Response to stimuli: However limited this response and however specific the stimuli, it does do so
>Reproduction: Presumably, it could at least provide the blueprints allowing a duplication of its "self"

However, it fails the following:
>Metabolism: A machine does not fuel itself from consumption of organic matter to produce chemical energy
>Growth: A machine does not grow in physical size
>Adaptation: A machine cannot adapt to its environment by changing beyond what it is programmed to do

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Anonymous 16/02/24(Wed)01:22 No. 12445 ID: c77f18

Meet him. Judge him by what kind of person he is. I know it sounds funny, or naive. But I would want to meet this person and find the inner differences and gain some sort of enlightenment towards his state of mind. We are all alien to each other, that is until we grow closer.

Anonymous 16/11/28(Mon)08:00 No. 12731 ID: a6be23

There should be absolutely no moral imperative it is meant to serve us.

Anonymous 16/08/31(Wed)03:45 No. 12662 ID: 1cc955 [Reply]

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About free will.

Are you reading this text voluntarily? My personal guess is, that many will instinctively answer with yes. In German the adjective „voluntarily“ is translated to „freiwillig“, which means „with free will“ or more literal „free willy“.
Bad jokes aside, the definition of doing something voluntarily, is taking action according to your own free will.
Now why I am focusing on this is, because I want to explore what it actually means to do something voluntarily, along the axis of determinism and free will.

Let’s assume you answered yes to the question of reading this text voluntarily.
And let’s assume our brains do function deterministically.
That would mean, you just had an illusion about having a free will.
The illusion, that you did have a choice, not to read this text this far. Some unknown law, which we try to approximate in the natural sciences, is entirely responsible for what you just did, including the feeling of doing it voluntarily.
It also means, that if you were able to go back in time, every time you did do so, the world and the universe would develop exactly the way they have always been destined to. Including you, reading this text, over and over again. Like a clockwork turning back and forth.
Consciously experiencing a movie that doesn’t feel like a movie but real.
Being aware of this fact also means, that one of the characteristics of this deterministic system is, that it can understand itself.
Let’s have a look at it understanding itself.
If the voluntary guy exists in this deterministic system, his thoughts are part of this system and his conscious experience of having acted voluntarily describes the system in the same way, as an experience of not having done so, would.
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Anonymous 16/10/21(Fri)22:58 No. 12690 ID: 3c2eaa


Actually Determinism and free Will imo are compatible. If your decisions would not base on determinism, then they would be completely uncondicioned, random. The free will is determined by your experience, your character etc.. An uncondicioned free will would be simply arbitrary.

Anonymous 16/10/22(Sat)05:47 No. 12691 ID: ca3ceb

>About free will.

>Are you reading this text voluntarily?

I dunno. I got bored and stopped reading there.

Anonymous 16/11/19(Sat)08:51 No. 12722 ID: 2ff195

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great post OP.

I have discussions on this topic all the time.

Anonymous 16/11/06(Sun)06:36 No. 12702 ID: 57a468 [Reply]

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What is this, /phi/?

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Anonymous 16/11/10(Thu)19:23 No. 12713 ID: fc27c2

A wooden contraption used for sitting to rest your leg muscles, it can also be used to hit people over the head with and throwing, throwing a said object usually is followed by a ceremonial shout "worldstar"

Anonymous 16/11/19(Sat)02:51 No. 12718 ID: da24a2

What isn't it

Anonymous 16/11/19(Sat)08:25 No. 12720 ID: 2ff195

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pronoun: this; pronoun: these
used to identify a specific person or thing close at hand or being indicated or experienced.
"is this your bag?"
used to introduce someone or something.
"this is the captain speaking"
referring to the nearer of two things close to the speaker (the other, if specified, being identified by “that”).
"this is different from that"
referring to a specific thing or situation just mentioned.
"the company was transformed, and Ward had played a vital role in bringing this about"
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Anonymous 16/11/15(Tue)15:00 No. 12717 ID: b00a46 [Reply]

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Parasites need love and acceptance too, so consider their mental and emotional needs when deworming your cat. Save the tapeworms! *peace*


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