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Anonymous 16/12/24(Sat)23:39 No. 12763 ID: 0f36a6 [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
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https://richarddawkins.net/2016/06/yes-there-have-been-aliens/

Why are atheists so obsessed with aliens and other conspiracy theories? There is literally no credible evidence for their existence. Is it because they are immature manchildren?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox


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Anonymous 19/03/20(Wed)16:44 No. 13939 ID: 57f992

>>13924
He's on Venus?! I thought he was on Mars. Oh boy, do I feel stupid!


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Anonymous 19/04/25(Thu)19:31 No. 13970 ID: d60c6c
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https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/24/politics/us-navy-ufo-guidelines/index.html
>S Navy introducing guidelines for pilots to report UFO sightings

>the U.S navy seriously thinks UFO's are real


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Anonymous 19/05/26(Sun)19:16 No. 13986 ID: 0ccd16

>>13970
This has nothing to do with extraterrestrials. The navy has officers stationed all over the planet, many of them specifically having the job of monitoring the skies for unusual activity, such as fighter jet deployments or missile launches. They have a formal procedure to report things seen that were not readily identifiable at the time.

Now calm down and drink your cyanide kool-aid.




Plato's Democracy to Tyranny Anonymous 18/04/19(Thu)19:20 No. 13503 ID: 8bdadd [Reply]
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In the United States and other western democracies (see it's in the phrase). We are currently in a degenerate cosmopolitan democracy that values wealth, possessions, and sex over virtue and intellectual pursuits. From here individuals are atomized. They begin to hate their situation and they demand the rule of a tyrant. This explains the phenomena of Trump, the support for Bernie Sanders, and even some of the youths support for Jeremy Corbyn in the UK.

As an American, I was surprised by the vociferous response of virtually any progressive millennial to brexit. I couldn't understand why they cared. Until it dawned on me, we have become so cosmopolitan that people want an all powerful supranational entity to rule over their quasi-bohemian lifestyle.


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Anonymous 18/05/19(Sat)18:25 No. 13531 ID: 1e4c65

>implying they don't follow what the media says unconditionally today


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Anonymous 18/12/24(Mon)06:56 No. 13831 ID: 7270ce

>>13516
The best part of a democracy is everyone gets a vote.

The worst part of a democracy is everyone gets a vote.


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Anonymous 19/02/18(Mon)11:08 No. 13886 ID: 13ccd2

>>13528
Technically the "middle class" is supposed to have wealth equivalent to royalty while not actually being royalty.




What would death "feel" like? Anonymous 19/01/21(Mon)06:59 No. 13867 ID: 94a09a [Reply]
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I found this video, loved it, and I thought to post it here. Discuss?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r7wU5dB3mg




White Guilt isn't why Whites are distressed. Being extorted is. Anonymous 18/11/16(Fri)14:39 No. 13715 ID: d74134 [Reply]
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"[I feel] the same as everybody else, only more consciously."
-Ayn Rand, Tom Snyder interview, 1979

The distress associated with Whites' acquiescence to extortion (Whites paying nonWhites to prevent them destroying) is
mistaken for White guilt, when the distress is actually proximity to minorities who coerce Whites.

While the emotion (distress) is the same, remedying this distress requires treating its actual source-- which is not White guilt, but rather proximity to nonWhites who coerce Whites.

Recognizing that White guilt cannot exist because guilt requires us (not have wronged another) does not free us from distress.
But recognizing the interplay (coercion and extortion) between Whites and nonWhites in close proximity does show us a rational cause of our distress, and the method by which to decrease it: more distance between Whites and nonWhites.


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LOLIHAET!PIZZA3TepE!!AvZQpjAGLj 18/12/10(Mon)22:19 No. 13803 ID: 5ac05a

>>13793

Rand: "People need to be self-reliant, doing things in their own interests, even if it pushes some people down."
*Libertarians take her ideas, modify them to suit their needs, and use her popularity to and help popularize libertarianism*
Rand: "NO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!!!1!!!!"

How the fuck can anyone take such a femcuck so seriously?


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Anonymous 18/12/12(Wed)04:20 No. 13808 ID: b21d9d

>>13803
A dead philosopher isn't around to refute whatever interpretation of their philosophy you come up with.

No one takes her seriously; they take themselves seriously and wrap their own ideology in the tattered remains of hers.


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Anonymous 18/12/22(Sat)15:15 No. 13829 ID: f100db
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>>13808
The nice thing about Ayn Rand is she's so recent and relatively popular in a "goddamn this author is batshit insane" kind of way that there's lots of interviews with her where she flat-out states which groups are doing what based on her writings and how they're completely misinterpreting what she wrote. Since most of those groups, like American Libertarians, have continued forward to today with very little in the way of changes, we can easily take what she said then about them then and continue to apply it to them.

Then there's what she actually did while she was alive, which had virtually nothing to do with what she wrote about. Since, unlike the people she so often railed about, she wasn't actually stupid enough to take what she wrote seriously. Pic related.




Anonymous 18/09/01(Sat)07:40 No. 13603 ID: 8c87d4 [Reply]
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Natural is defined by Oxford dictionary as "Existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind."

Process is defined as "A series of actions or steps taken in order to achieve a particular end."

The words together mean a process that was produced without a conscious agent.

Now here is the evidence that this belief is subjective and therefore doesn't exist.

A conscious agent is a being who is aware of it's surroundings and has the ability to act upon it.

Birds, beavers, humans are examples of Conscious Agents. We know they are because they build things such nests, dams, and jet engines. Showing they are indeed Conscious of the surrounding materials and they have the ability to act on them.

Conscious agents can produce processes that are said to be products of natural process, but natural process cannot produce processes created by conscious agents such as birds nests, beaver dams, and jet engines.

All of the material that Conscious agents have access to is the same material that natural process has access too.
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Anonymous 18/12/08(Sat)03:27 No. 13796 ID: 3744da

The definition of Natural by the Oxford dictionary presented in the OP appears to me to be calling humankind an alien species in terms of it's relationship to the entity "nature".

Provided meaning of "Natural Process" implies conscious intention.

Is consciousness alien technology?
Would every type of consciousness be a different alien species?




Anonymous 18/05/19(Sat)17:45 No. 13530 ID: 1c68b3 [Reply]
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Time is a fantasy; there is no such thing.


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Anonymous 18/12/05(Wed)15:21 No. 13786 ID: 4b92a2

>>13530
5 niggers from now OP will be hit by a truck


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Anonymous 18/12/05(Wed)15:49 No. 13788 ID: 8a0547
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>>13786
That's two and half double-niggers, but how long is a nigger?


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Anonymous 18/12/05(Wed)19:38 No. 13790 ID: e9a682
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>>13788
1.5x as long as a white man.




Time Theory Anonymous 18/11/28(Wed)05:44 No. 13768 ID: 7c84ca [Reply]
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What is the theory that time is a human construct and the way our brains process reality. Everything is simultaneously happening. Possibly related to the feeling of mushrooms where every moment is like a still image instead of a flowing video, as well as life being like a video of multiple still images? Where can I read more on a related philosophy




nihilism/absurdism tomska 18/10/16(Tue)14:11 No. 13671 ID: 231a2f [Reply]

Hey guys im setting up this thread to discuss the differences and similarities between two popular athiest philosophies, nihilism and absurdism. Now if you are christian and want to come to this server to insult us athiest and try to force your religion on us, PLZ DONT!!!
I am not trying to insult your religion, just discuss an interesting topic with my fellow athiests. All other post will be taken down with a week of posting.


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Anonymous 18/11/21(Wed)20:00 No. 13744 ID: 24af14

You have two versions of the same thread. I think this is the more recent one.

Anyway, nihilism and absurdism both recognize that meaning is an abstract mental concept and therefore nothing has meaning in the absence of an interpreter. Real is what exists even after you stop believing in it, so meaning isn’t traditionally real.

Both conflate purpose, meaning, and value. They say that if there is no inherent value and there is no inherent purpose, you’re free to do whatever. The subjective values and reasons you hold onto can be important, even if they aren’t objectively real, or you can live as though nothing is important to you.

Nihilism isn’t a complete life philosophy so much as it is a philosophical observation, the observation that the universe is inherently meaningless. Absurdism can mean simply noticing that things are absurd, like the term ‘absurdist comedy’, but (if I remember correctly) I think Absurdism was also the name for Camus’ personal philosophy. If you want to know more about Camus’ personal philosophy, I suggest you read his books. If you want an easier read, you can read The Stranger, a short novel possibly illustrating how Camus feels about the absurdity of existence.

One thing I think was weird about Nietzsche was how he spoke as though someone who does what I said earlier and “holds onto their subjective values and reasons” is no longer a nihilist. That’s kind of semantical of me, though. Nietzsche thought that people who refused to hold subjective values, and reasons for existence, were essentially pathetic cowards. Nietzsche believed in cultivating the ego and scultping the personality to harness the divine, creative energy which flows through all “great men” and helped them forge modern society.




Anonymous 16/11/06(Sun)06:36 No. 12702 ID: 57a468 [Reply]
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What is this, /phi/?


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chair anon 18/10/04(Thu)14:59 No. 13657 ID: a926a8

it is the most used example in philosophy to explain examples or the example itself. Therefore, its a metaexample


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not just a chair tomska 18/10/15(Mon)18:33 No. 13669 ID: 231a2f

This is a symbol of having something to leans and rest on. And a friend that you can go to when you are down. A place to rest when you are overwhelmed, This is... Mans best friend.


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Anonymous 18/10/22(Mon)08:54 No. 13679 ID: 848b2c

>>13510
If one prints out enough copies of them, compresses and heats the stacks of copies into a kind of plywood, cuts that wood into the right shapes and then nails or screws it together, they would have a chair.

Or if the monitor they are looking at this picture on happens to be a CRT, they could easily use it as a chair. Or a wrecking ball...




Anonymous 18/09/10(Mon)09:32 No. 13608 ID: 7fc04c [Reply]
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In Theravada Buddhism, a person can become a god, and during godhood attain a state of enlightenment which results in ending the cycle of rebirth. Some of the final stages of this cycle involve letting go of the will to live, followed by letting go of the will to exist in any form. Losing the will to live or exist at all happens exclusively in god form. After losing the will to exist, conciet, restlessness, and ignorance go away too. Then, nirvana is attained and the person isn’t born again.

Talk about glorifying suicide.


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Anonymous 18/09/29(Sat)10:51 No. 13643 ID: 3f71f7

>>13637
Sure, that pretty much sums up the "in the image of God" that Christians have, but I don't see the metaphorical dumping of the glass taking place in any material sense.

I see that coming to realize one's part in the whole--that one is the part of the one in some sense--is good for the spirit, but I don't ever see you getting dumped back into the ocean until you're dead.

The ego will always continue to exist in the world, as we are all separate entities in the world.
Once you've come to the realization that you are part of the whole, you don't feel bad when the ego is poked, and that's one of the differences between someone with a more mature spiritual outlook and a person that's an ego maniac.




"Talk about glorifying suicide."

Yeah, I get some nihilistic vibes from buddhism.


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Anonymous 18/10/04(Thu)06:04 No. 13656 ID: ab41ea

>>13643
It sounds like the beliefs of >>13637 are based on the notion of God and possibly the immaterial soul.


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Anonymous 18/10/18(Thu)01:37 No. 13674 ID: 694780

>>13643
There is no "dumping back" because we never left the ocean,the waves affect everybody even if you don't see it.After having this realization you will treat the ego as it really is,an entity that has it's own desires.
And in the end all your problems are cause by that same desire.





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