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comatoast!!L1A2Z5BQN4 15/12/08(Tue)06:32 No. 12364 ID: 1238e8 [Reply]

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Karl Marx was correct.

Capitalism is collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions.

Between the development of technology and the spread of information growing ever faster among the working class it is only a matter of time before capitalism falls apart.


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Anonymous 16/11/30(Wed)02:23 No. 12736 ID: 44a931

>Where did the workers uprisings happen?
They did happen, but were more likely in the form of peaceful protests or walk-outs. Once Unions, workers' laws, etc. were put into place, they were appeased.

To further discussion, people are needy creatures, and will do what is necessary to survive, but will take whatever slack they get, and then ask for more. What will probably occur afterwards is a big hissy fit, like what we see know with America's election results, and this is easy ground for communists to take hold of. Most communists now-a-days are no more than wishful dreamers fighting for something higher, not willing to make sacrifices: most communists today are quite satisfied with what they have now, and continuously talk about how people are oppressed on Reddit more than taking action. Look at communists several decades ago compared to now. Most are so appeased with the current system that they can only whimper on how "muh perfect form of communism" would solve all problems, similar to most libertarians if I might add.

Communism isn't the end game, the liberal democracy is.

And no, Karl Marx was only partially correct.

Anonymous 16/12/06(Tue)00:44 No. 12744 ID: 372eae

Fucking commie trolls. Capitalism is the best, government sucks balls. the artificial power construct of the government is way too vulnerable to exploitation and incompetence, poisoning the field with bullshit regulations and subsidies often primarily for the benefit of their rich asshole buddies, whereas in pure capitalism the only way to get anything is to offer a better deal than the competition. You start abusing your customer base without government enforced monopolies and you'll find yourself learning a little something about capitalistic competition

Anonymous 16/12/06(Tue)01:13 No. 12745 ID: 5a53ee

>They did happen, but were more likely in the form of peaceful protests or walk-outs.
The fuck they were. It was common for companies to have union organizers and union members killed, maimed, or hospitalized. The government would lend them a hand (police, national guard, even straight up military intervention) whenever the number of union members grew too large for their private goon forces to put down.

Look up "strike breaking" in your favorite internet resource for a more thorough understanding of the topic.

>Libertarian fantasy
Smoke less weed.

Life is Like Minecraft Anonymous 16/11/06(Sun)06:45 No. 12703 ID: 57a468 [Reply]

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I'll probably get scolded for this, but is life and/or existence in general much like a new world of Minecraft? Life doesn't have any goals or meaning until you or your family give it one. Much like Minecraft where the only goals are what you set and the pre-existing ones are more like guidelines. Now call me a faggot, because I am expecting this.

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Anonymous 16/11/26(Sat)10:05 No. 12726 ID: 57a468

I noticed that many people like to create societies within the game, but is a state-level society really something that can be created? Most Chiefdom level societies often times move into a state level society without realizing it. So is this why such attempts always end up going nowhere?

Because Minecraft literally starts the players to where if any societies form it's either band or tribal level?

Anonymous 16/12/01(Thu)18:45 No. 12738 ID: 66a496

In reference to:
you toil in poverty and your goal is to amass as much material as possible in the hope it will bring to contentment and achievement of goals--so materialism.

Anonymous 16/12/02(Fri)04:53 No. 12739 ID: c4f1b3

I suppose it makes sense that a person's Minecraft play style might strongly reflect how they are in real life.

Assholes will be griefers, nice people will work together; extroverts will play multiplayer, introverts will play singleplayer; people resistant to change will stick with a familiar version, people who have a short attention span will lap up every new update; and little kids will blow shit up and install nude skins (laughing like morons the whole time) because that's how little kids are.

If this holds, in real life as well as Minecraft, I live only to work by myself building pretty things that operate on a system of strict internal logic, and that tell a story over time; and I challenge myself to follow more rules than natively exist because what's there isn't difficult enough for me; and if I want something, but don't feel like waiting, I will cheat to obtain it.

That works out pretty well, actually.

Anonymous 16/11/15(Tue)15:00 No. 12717 ID: b00a46 [Reply]

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Parasites need love and acceptance too, so consider their mental and emotional needs when deworming your cat. Save the tapeworms! *peace*


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Anonymous 14/12/13(Sat)07:40 No. 11924 ID: eda858 [Reply]

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Where did the concept of innate rights come from?
rights a person or animal has without having to earn or be given then (perhaps with the exception of rights given by a divine being, which are in practice usually innate)

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Anonymous 14/12/21(Sun)09:06 No. 11934 ID: a72cc7

Well, what do you exactly mean by, "Rights,"? Because if you refer to some sort of god-given facet of existence to which all are entitled to and that none are allowed to interfere with, then I'm sorry but nature's kinda proven that there's no vector of attack it's unwilling to exploit.

Anonymous 14/12/21(Sun)16:17 No. 11935 ID: c3f18d

Maybe an noble way of enshrining a pact of fear is accurate

Anonymous 16/11/01(Tue)12:36 No. 12696 ID: 1ce89c


What is earth? a dude looking for answers 16/07/31(Sun)23:48 No. 12626 ID: b8d07a [Reply]

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I've been looking into the hollow earth theory,and flat earth. does anyone have any valid proof for anything?

Anonymous 16/10/17(Mon)23:40 No. 12689 ID: 27c313

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It's a bunch of bogus. The Earth is not hollow and for a million years it likely will never be. You can always say technically as in: technically most matter is contained in the nucleus therefore Earth is hollow but even that is contested by Observations of Physical phenomena. The Earth has been traveled around from one end to the other in the 1500s. Technically again, since the Earth is spewing through a cosmic vacuum at speeds faster than when in combination, light, it could be described, from a *fixed point* as flat. But it is not flat. And thank Allah (<---- joke) never will be.

Anonymous 16/10/22(Sat)06:49 No. 12692 ID: df0652

>does anyone have any valid proof for anything?


Anonymous 16/10/13(Thu)16:24 No. 12682 ID: f0d5c6 [Reply]

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The question of what awaits us after death, just as meaningless as the question of what awaits a harlequin after a bal masque. There is nothing awaits him, because there is only a harlequin mask. It seems to me that it's right to say that there is something awaits us in life. And death is the awakening of life. But it's not us who awakes, because we are - exactly the same illusion as everything that surrounds us. Dying, we awake from what we took for ourselves. By the way, in the diary of Leo Tolstoy he described a fabulous dream on this subject.

Anonymous 16/10/14(Fri)06:03 No. 12683 ID: ca3ceb

>And death is the awakening of life.

Nah man I'm pretty sure life ends with death.

If you wanna talk about it in a metaphor I guess you could talk about how death is when we go to sleep. Or like death is a dream or some shit.

Then we can sound really deep without saying anything substantial. Yay for pop philosophy.

Anonymous 16/03/30(Wed)01:10 No. 12488 ID: 44cd17 [Reply]

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The notion that to lie in and of itself is unjust or immoral is a fallacy.

One may lie for many a purpose. One may lie to entertain, to protect the innocent, or to let the past be forgotten. A lie may be used justly or unjustly. The mechanism itself cannot be held accountable to its use, or the consequences.

As the saying goes, lies don't kill people, people kill people...

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Anonymous 16/06/25(Sat)15:59 No. 12613 ID: 0ccd16

I could be; mostly I think I am just dishonest. Dishonesty is a survival skill for the inept and incompetent, which I am as well. I have reason to expect that any given challenge will be too hard for me to surpass, and I fail constantly. No amount of hard work has ever had an effect; only dishonesty allows my life to go forward.

I'm not sure that denotology is a thing, but essentially this is the discussion happening here.

Anonymous 16/07/01(Fri)11:07 No. 12619 ID: 98d629

Dichotomies such as just versus unjust or moral versus immoral do not exist in real life. Dichotomous concepts operate at once. For instance, Truth can be a lie if enough people accept it. Truth and lies are happening at the same time since we never know the full truth and our perception usually gets in the way of how we see.

We're blind men stumbling through a forest who called going five footsteps progress and the height of all mankind.

Anonymous 16/10/09(Sun)23:54 No. 12678 ID: 8f31d4

>fear and weakness can convince us otherwise
Some truths are inherently terrifying, in that they represent things we are all weak against. ie. We will all one day die. Is it unreasonable to tell an elderly person they could have many years left? Truths can cause harm if they become a source of depression. Which is more sacred: the preservation of happiness and health, or the truth?

This is a good point. I think it also illustrates another reason why we could never fully erradicate lies from human society. It is very difficult for us to establish truth, and very easy to lie. Indeed, we lie unintentionally as much as we attempt to tell the truth even at our moral best. We even lie to ourselves, and willfully believe those lies, to avoid truths we are uncomfortable with. If we can hardly distinguish truths from lies, how are we to distinguish the morality of either?

This is an intriguing post. A thing may be a truth to one individual and a lie to others. Is it an act of lying to express personal truths others do not share?

I'm not sure how to apply the statistics, considering the many fields of lying that need to be included. Of course there are the obvious lies people tell each other to avoid guilt, protect others from harsh truths, intentionally mislead someone's thouts, etc. but acting in movies is also a kind of lying; comedy relies on many sorts of lies; lies come in many shapes and sizes, even degrees.

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