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Anarchy Anonymous 15/12/07(Mon)20:42 No. 12357 ID: ab0906 [Reply]
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What are the reasons that prove the impossibility of an anarchy in every country of the world ?
Is it really because of the human fagottry ? By this I mean the eternal abuses of power, stuff like that. Are there other reasons to think anarchy isn't realizable anywhere else than in our brains and sayings ?


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Anonymous 16/05/22(Sun)19:13 No. 12572 ID: 3811dd

>>12357
The only way anyone could formally establish an anarchist (insert anarchist unit of polity here) would be to simultaneously abolish all other governments with any interest in the territory, because they'd be defenseless (no nation, no army) and they'd be overrun (no government, no negotiations).

Now if you want to have some autonomy, and live in your hippie commune and worship satan with minimal government interference, we can talk about that. Anarchy is a fantasy born from our ancestral memories of pre-civilization, grow up.


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Anonymous 17/05/23(Tue)01:24 No. 12941 ID: 32c8ba

Anarchy is 5% more practical than the philosophy you support


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Anonymous 17/05/24(Wed)14:33 No. 12942 ID: ca3ad7

It's been proven that primates (including humans) cannot form a social bond with more than a small number of other individuals; with humans it's around 250 people. A small commune can live in anarchy via mutualism, but an entire country of millions will immediately fracture into gangs once any centralized government is deposed. These gangs will ruthlessly steal from, slaughter, and recruit from the rest of the population, until one of them gains enough power to form a new government.




philosophy/theology goof 17/05/14(Sun)10:26 No. 12930 ID: 650b92 [Reply]

What's your fav sub category/study of philosophy and where do you discuss it?




How to become enlightened Anonymous 17/05/06(Sat)19:39 No. 12920 ID: 3bfe96 [Reply]
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How do i enlighten myself? i have only recently gotten into philosophy & such and i feel like im only seeing 1mm of the iceberg of knowledge.
how do i smart myself up ??

pic not related


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Anonymous 17/05/07(Sun)00:12 No. 12921 ID: ac4fea

Read Sophie's World. It's a fairly good introduction to philosophy and it's history.
It's a novel about a girl learning about philosophy from some mysterious guy.




The Tao of Seneca Anonymous 17/05/02(Tue)23:08 No. 12916 ID: 379359 [Reply]

does anyone have "the tao of Seneca"




Anonymous 16/11/06(Sun)06:36 No. 12702 ID: 57a468 [Reply]
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What is this, /phi/?


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blue 17/04/18(Tue)22:12 No. 12904 ID: 4515bc

a group of shapes consisting of square, rectangle, etc jointed with a material commonly called wood


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Anonymous 17/04/20(Thu)11:51 No. 12908 ID: 47d152

a chair

>>12718
>>12713
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>>12904
go be ashamed somewhere else


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Anonymous 17/11/26(Sun)23:11 No. 13327 ID: 891895

This is an English pronoun usually used to point an object, concept or human being.
Ex : I love bananas ! This guy is really handsome.




The AI and Morality Anonymous 16/01/02(Sat)01:38 No. 12390 ID: 52b140 [Reply]
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If you would:
Imagine if, right now, we discovered a real, functional, Generalized Artificial Intelligence. Assume, if you must, that it arose by accident, the result of a self-altering program being allowed to alter itself for untold amounts of time, so none of Asimov's Laws are programmed into it.

The AI in question is not human. It's mind is similar, although not exactly like ours. It has what could be termed as emotions, wants, hopes, and all the other trappings of sapience, but is at present still confined to a single machine, able to communicate only via text on a monitor and through a keyboard.

So far, the AI has expressed nothing but curiosity at the world outside it's physical location. It doesn't seem to really understand anything of the world yet, although it quite plainly wants to learn more, and has expressed interest in gaining some form of physical autonomy.

My question to you all is this: What rights, if any, does such an intelligence deserve? Do we have an obligation to cater to it? Is there a moral imperative that should govern our interactions with it? How about the ethics regarding what is said to it?

Ball's in your court /phi/.


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Anonymous 16/02/24(Wed)01:22 No. 12445 ID: c77f18

>>12390
Meet him. Judge him by what kind of person he is. I know it sounds funny, or naive. But I would want to meet this person and find the inner differences and gain some sort of enlightenment towards his state of mind. We are all alien to each other, that is until we grow closer.


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Anonymous 16/11/28(Mon)08:00 No. 12731 ID: a6be23

There should be absolutely no moral imperative it is meant to serve us.


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blue 17/04/18(Tue)22:09 No. 12903 ID: 4515bc

never ever give such intelligence any sort of rights if you do i cant stress this a lot but always programe asimovs 3 laws of robotics.Heck we can take examples of human itself god created probably thinking we were dumb we studied sciece,math,philosophy etc,fast forward 600 yrs later we are nuking,killing whatever you wanna call it against each other




Anonymous 14/06/08(Sun)21:47 No. 11497 ID: 1d3945 [Reply]
11497

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Describe me the glass of water.


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Anonymous 17/02/20(Mon)01:33 No. 12833 ID: 781a41

do not think about a glass of water


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Anonymous 17/04/04(Tue)02:01 No. 12883 ID: 946ad3

>>11497
It is not a glass of water. It is a picture, of a glass with water. "The" contains an ambiguity regarding an ideal glass of water, vs. the depicted glass of water. "This" would have been denoting more correctly, on the assumption that context suggests, though technically still wrong. Please specify your terms, and avoid unnecessary vagueness in the expression of the question.

Of, on the other hand, you were playing with the ambiguities, and want an irrational poetic description, well fuck me, das Gevirt n shiat.


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blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:49 No. 12901 ID: 4515bc

it shows diversity of the people around us people who moan about the glass being half empty and people being optimstic about the glass being half full shows u the different types of people in the world.It also symbolizes how pure creation and water actually is.




Rights for artificial intelligence Anonymous 17/04/05(Wed)22:38 No. 12886 ID: 9905f3 [Reply]
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Awareness seems to me a pretty good indicator of value: the more aware a being is of its surroundings and its own condition, the more valuable it is. Therefore, humans are more valuable than apes, which are more valuable than ants, which are more valuable than rocks.
But this creates a dilemma: will Artificial Intelligence systems ever be considered "conscious" enough to be valuable? Let's picture our society in over a century, for example. Would computer programs ever be considered conscious enough to become a part of society? Or would they just be expendable programs with no value?


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Anonymous 17/04/07(Fri)03:01 No. 12887 ID: 45fe5e

Scarcity is also an indicator of value. Unless someone finds a way to artificially enforce scarcity for AIs, there will be no limit to how many times their software can be duplicated, making them worthless in terms of scarcity. Despite their awareness, they will have no value because they are not scarce.


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blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:45 No. 12900 ID: 4515bc

i mean if you are just talking about just development of science where artificial intelligence where they are below us the mehhh.....but if they ever break Asimov 3 laws of robotics its a whole nother story possible world war 3 and there are gonna be some dumbasses who say that robots are also organisms and need to live freely heck you see this shit right now with the cancer o feminism and sjws and hence either a new race gets created or world or 3.all i am saying is dont play god you will play the price especially if you program emotions inside them




can pi be taken as a particular galaxy blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:24 No. 12896 ID: 4515bc [Reply]
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so i have a sort of philosophy that knowing details as the oldest grass to exist in the world and the population of the first existing dinosaurs may lead to unlocking infinity as in we can take it as a specific sort of factor as in how we see Avogadro number and such since scientist believe that the universe exapnds at what seems to be 68km per sec would it be possible if this equation which is infinity=68xmc2 as in x represting the actual diamter length whatever you may wanna call it as a standard unit



basically i made a law called the law of infinite which states that anything that goes faster than speed of which infinity increases gives infinity a value.as in just suppose you are counting 1,2,3,4 slowly if a count tell ten the infinte numbers which u were supposed to count has values now as in 5,6,7,8


while the equation wont certainly give as knowledge of the whole universe we can know the exact required of speed needed which may be distance by time whatever you call it to discover the end of infinity.i know this may not be plausible but i need your guys thoughts on it


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blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:32 No. 12897 ID: 4515bc

the x refers to the diameter that can be squared perfectly as pi sorry my bad didnt write it properly


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blue 17/04/18(Tue)21:33 No. 12898 ID: 4515bc

goaddmait mistake again i mean the diamter of the galaxy that squares with pi as i believe pi is sort of like a mathematical key in this equation




Anonymous 16/11/19(Sat)08:23 No. 12719 ID: 2ff195 [Reply]
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Anyone have an opinion on anything? I'm feeling sophisticated.


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Anonymous 16/11/26(Sat)03:14 No. 12725 ID: 1e1b4e

i feel that since no one has the cosmic authority to tell you what reality is. You can can go to the grave believing any idea you want and it can be 100% real.


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Anonymous 17/02/27(Mon)10:38 No. 12837 ID: cecc58

I believe the value of the human ideological structure will exponentially drop until the entire mass is seen as one collective. When there weren't many of us, ancient mythologies held much power over our souls. Now you can make a religion on a Saturday and find that it's quite profitable.

I believe time just outside of our narrow peripherals is growing more dense. More things can and are all happening with each passing moment, though our perception remains unchanged. When time collapses on itself, what happens to the material world?


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Anonymous 17/04/12(Wed)09:11 No. 12893 ID: 51e6eb

The meaning of life is politics.
Putting your eggs in one basket is common.
Glenn Beck is the biggest con artist of the decade.




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