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Anonymous 15/11/16(Mon)06:19 No. 12321 ID: 21c12c
12321

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Is there really a right and wrong?

personally I believe that there is none, life is pointless.

thoughts?


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Anonymous 15/11/17(Tue)09:46 No. 12322 ID: ca3ceb

Meh I agree I guess. Morals don't exist by universal law but if you want maximum comfort in life you gotta play along with them. I don't see a problem with the concept of right and wrong.


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Anonymous 15/11/18(Wed)01:43 No. 12326 ID: bb220a

>>12322
I don't ether,the thing is that i'm completely clueless as to why other people put so much emphases on it. Do the vast majority of people actually have a concrete sense of right or wrong or do they just fake it to keep things moving?


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Anonymous 15/11/18(Wed)02:10 No. 12327 ID: ca3ceb

>>12326
A little of a, little of b I think.
Of course there's people who lean toward having that concrete sense of morality but they're what we like to call "extremists" and they're thankfully in the minority. Most people in the world have a live and let live jig going on from what I've seen and heard. That's the main reason people put emphasis on it. Play by the rules, don't get fucked.


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Anonymous 15/11/18(Wed)12:52 No. 12329 ID: cbe20c

>>12321
I am personally a moral non-realist. I tend to lean towards a philosophy of act utilitarianism, however that is subject to change the more I study.


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Anonymous 15/11/18(Wed)13:21 No. 12330 ID: cbe20c

>>12321
Btw, this is kind of the question that all ethical philosophers try to answer.


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Anonymous 15/11/18(Wed)23:09 No. 12331 ID: acc4fd

Good and evil exist. That's why we have mirror neurons; to discern between the two.

Take for example fear! Fear's a truly, unpleasant feeling. If anyone were to willingly incite fear into another human being, it'd be seen as devilish. Of course humor is seen in most cases, but think about real FEAR. There's a man in black in front if you with a knife. One you've never seen before. He's walking towards you and CHARGES FORWARD TO GRASP YOU. He's got your entire body paralyzed His knife starts to make its way up towards your throat. That's what evil is.

The intents to murder, steal, destroy, all intentions to harm another human being, or any animal, to cause any form of destruction to any life giving means, theft, arson, larceny, poisoning of water, these are all evil acts!

Now, oppositely, we have utter goodness. We have that which GIVES life, as opposed to the taking of it. Sharing, creating medicine, taking care of homeless people, feeding poor people, giving food to emaciated dogs, everything which gives life and happiness. Hugs, high fives, a phone call to check in on a friend or a family member. These sort of things exude what is called goodness.

Logically there's a correct and incorrect, a right and a wrong too. Though of course anyone not concerned with the fact probably doesn't care about right or wrong either. If you don't pay attention to your surroundings, how can you discern?


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Anonymous 15/11/18(Wed)23:55 No. 12332 ID: bb220a

>>12331
All those are relative, if you grew up around constant stabbings it would be the normal thing. Also all this is the body's natural reaction to survive.Its all just chemicals, it doesn't actually exist, so does it really matter?


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Anonymous 15/11/19(Thu)10:56 No. 12333 ID: a71624

>>12322
But if you play along with the man-made morals, your freedom is at stake. You yourself can decide certain morals with your way of living. These can again contradict with what majority of people believe in. Now either you become a rebel and go against it or you become a slave and try to follow them. Either way their is inner chaos. I dont understand how to get out of this predicament.


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Anonymous 15/11/20(Fri)04:42 No. 12334 ID: ca3ceb

>>12333
>But if you play along with the man-made morals, your freedom is at stake.
>Now either you become a rebel and go against it or you become a slave and try to follow them.

lol
I bet you also equate aging to dying.

You're not a slave if you just mind your own fucking business yo. Do you even know what a slave is?


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Anonymous 15/11/22(Sun)21:50 No. 12338 ID: f624f8

>>12334
please just read over what you said for a bit, there's no way your that stupid.


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Anonymous 15/11/23(Mon)05:48 No. 12339 ID: ca3ceb

>>12338
>your
likewise

But you wanna elaborate on that or what.
With proper grammar that smart people use. Like yourself.


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Anonymous 15/11/24(Tue)03:22 No. 12340 ID: 0ac55e

>>12339
Thats what your worried about? My grammar?

But by all means just go on ignoring my point.


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Anonymous 15/11/24(Tue)04:05 No. 12341 ID: ca3ceb

>>12340
I would except that I don't know what your point was.
Which was why I asked you to elaborate.

Or do you suck at reading comprehension too.


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Anonymous 15/11/24(Tue)20:02 No. 12342 ID: 2c71af

>>12341
no, i'm just impresses you cant understand simple English, its not like I typed in Russian.

>I bet you also equate aging to dying

are you trying to sound stupid?


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Anonymous 15/11/24(Tue)20:03 No. 12343 ID: 2c71af

>>12342
oops lol


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Anonymous 15/11/24(Tue)20:34 No. 12344 ID: 41d35a

it's not because we haven't found a meaning to life that there isn't one


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Anonymous 15/11/25(Wed)05:19 No. 12347 ID: 51798b

>>12344
do you think people actually think otherwise?

and should people try to spread this truth?


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Anonymous 15/11/25(Wed)19:19 No. 12348 ID: ca3ceb

>>12342
Yeah dude aging isn't dying. What's stupid about it


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Anonymous 15/11/26(Thu)21:22 No. 12349 ID: 535ac2

>>12348
aging is death slowly creeping up on you


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Anonymous 15/11/27(Fri)04:32 No. 12350 ID: ca3ceb

>>12349
And it's still not dying.
Aging is getting old. It happens to everything. Like planets and rocks and shit. Aging doesn't stop when you die, your corpse gets older differently.

Learn what words mean. God damn.


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Anonymous 15/12/24(Thu)23:15 No. 12373 ID: 8867b4

>>12350
Well from a physical perspective you actually are constantly dying. Cells are always dying off. In about 5 years you won't have any of the cells you have right now


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Anonymous 15/12/25(Fri)09:13 No. 12377 ID: 0e1f6c

>>12331
Eating is NOT evil, get it strait!


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Anonymous 16/01/01(Fri)03:03 No. 12388 ID: ca3ceb

>>12373
It's more like every 10 years but yeah that's called aging.
Then we die and it stops.

Macro =/= micro.


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Anonymous 16/01/19(Tue)01:52 No. 12412 ID: 28a36c

There is no right and wrong. Humans in the past have created them to make sense of the world. We need to always feel like we are in control and have a reason for everything.

Right and wrong is simply a perspective. You can choose weather to react to a situation in a "right" or "wrong" or not react at all. For example, murder. General public, previous generations, media, etc, have made the word and action 'murder' as a pejorative connotation, a "wrong" thing to do. Whereas the murderers, have a feeling that this is the "right" thing to do. Why don't they think it's a "wrong" thing like everyone else? Because it's a perspective. So it all pretty much depends on your stance on a situation.


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Anonymous 16/01/25(Mon)09:04 No. 12420 ID: 27d28d

Morality is in the realm of opinions, not facts.

That being said, opinions can be powerful things with both constructive and destructive capabilities, and better understanding them allows for more useful, productive dialogue.


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Anonymous 16/02/06(Sat)12:57 No. 12432 ID: 716a29

>>12321
Right and wrong can give life meaning


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Anonymous 16/03/15(Tue)18:50 No. 12467 ID: 641a38

>>12321
>there is none, life is pointless.

The presense or absense of moral absolutes bears no determination on the purpose of living.


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Anonymous 16/05/18(Wed)06:46 No. 12568 ID: 016d59

>>12321
Life is subjective.


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Anonymous 16/11/28(Mon)07:53 No. 12729 ID: a6be23

>>12321

Its pretty obvious morals are interpreted. A lot of hardcore moralists actually are implying there is unwritten right and wrong beyond human comprehension in the spiritual sense. Basically you are committing crimes you might not be aware of to another sentient being so you should refrain from any type of behavior that could be considered "harmful". Most moralists are just faggots who don't actually care about people and just want a ticket into the good life when they die.


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Anonymous 16/12/04(Sun)22:12 No. 12742 ID: 7531cf

Life doesn't need a purpose for there to be rights and wrongs within it.
I think of this world like a game. For example, in Monopoly, when it's all said and done, it doesn't really matter who won or lost or even how the game went, because it's over. But that doesn't change the fact that you're an ass for targeting one player and making him go bankrupt first.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think life does have a purpose. The world isn't pure entropy, there's a reason things happen, even if it isn't a good reason.


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Anonymous 16/12/06(Tue)00:21 No. 12743 ID: 372eae

Nothing really matters, but the universe follows natural tendencies eg. evolution.
Much like the birds invented wings to catch shit to eat and escape shit that wants to eat them, we invented "Hey, let's not kill each other" so we could go down to the corner store without a bunch of buddies and their pointiest sticks.

Morality improves the utility of society, so we evolved into it


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Anonymous 16/12/09(Fri)03:03 No. 12746 ID: b7b1ba

If you believe there's a god or something alike (I do), then no, there ain't no right or wrong outside of our limited comprehension of the whole, for everything happens in accordance to the needs of the entire universe.
If you don't believe there's one, and that the whole of existence ain't nothing but the result of the chaotic development of events starting with the big bang, then how the fuck could there be something right or wrong in the middle of such nonsense.
So no, there's no such thing.
This doesn't mean you gotta act like a jerk, do what's best for the community you live in and lead a reasonable and humble life. Just in case, you know.


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Anonymous 17/07/17(Mon)16:19 No. 13010 ID: 86f262

>>12373
Are we also constantly being born as the body develops new cells?
Should you check what it means when you are declared dead? Pulse? Breathing?

>>12321
Well, people see different thing right or wrong, but usually people see logical things right and so on. So could it mean that Logic is the greatest good/"right"?


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Anonymous 17/07/18(Tue)05:33 No. 13011 ID: 73f57f

There is a point, we just don't know what it is yet. So the point until then is to try to find out.


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Anonymous 17/07/25(Tue)03:58 No. 13032 ID: 14f7e1

Has anybody here asked OP for clarification? That's the only way to really answer their question.


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Anonymous 17/08/14(Mon)19:12 No. 13071 ID: 564822

Morality is subjective. I think the only right and wrong is how well you do you in life. If you are a depressed lolcow everyday that bitches then are most likely in the wrong and if you live life well and have fun they you are in the right. Ya dig?



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