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Plato's Democracy to Tyranny Anonymous 18/04/19(Thu)19:20 No. 13503 ID: 8bdadd

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In the United States and other western democracies (see it's in the phrase). We are currently in a degenerate cosmopolitan democracy that values wealth, possessions, and sex over virtue and intellectual pursuits. From here individuals are atomized. They begin to hate their situation and they demand the rule of a tyrant. This explains the phenomena of Trump, the support for Bernie Sanders, and even some of the youths support for Jeremy Corbyn in the UK.

As an American, I was surprised by the vociferous response of virtually any progressive millennial to brexit. I couldn't understand why they cared. Until it dawned on me, we have become so cosmopolitan that people want an all powerful supranational entity to rule over their quasi-bohemian lifestyle.

Anonymous 18/05/01(Tue)00:09 No. 13512 ID: 1bbee6

Progressive millennial don't think. they are just as dogmatic as a right-winger without the balls-to-the-wall fun.

I'm not sure what about our society suggests a rule to a tyrant. Look at CIA Black ops, like Operation Condor, Iran Contra, Extraordinary Rendition, etc. Seems like we already have a group of benevolent tyrants running the place.

Anonymous 18/05/07(Mon)19:49 No. 13516 ID: 9746ef

Democracy itself is such a laughable concept to be honest. The problem with democracy is simple really. Nobody knows shit for about anything.

Nothing about political issues
Nothing about science or math.
Hell, we even the attention span less than that of a goldfish- A GOLDFISH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD-this should tell use everything about the declining of western civilization.

Anonymous 18/05/09(Wed)19:13 No. 13518 ID: 4089f6

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Isn't that the problem with all government systems?

Anonymous 18/05/10(Thu)04:36 No. 13519 ID: 534dcc

I find that image to be absolutely ridiculous. How could two groups with totally different ideas of what constitutes a state work together to do away with them? It's like if Lenin and Schumpeter had tried to work together against imperialism. They were both against something they each called "imperialism," but they defined the word in totally different ways.

Anonymous 18/05/10(Thu)16:01 No. 13520 ID: 9ab02c

You can't understand why folks in one country care about what happens in another? Really. Hm.
1: Euroland has been trying since the end of WW2 to solidify a continental Euro block, specifically to prevent a WW3 from occurring. The idea is that if all Euroland were in one basket, a trilogy of continent-wrecking wars could be avoided. And also, a solidified Europe makes it easier to repel Russia, whose imperial ambitions from the late 19th Century are alive and well today. Britain was cool with this concept in principal, BUT...
2: Britain does not really consider itself a part of Euroland, because English Channel. Rather, since the Age of Exploration Britain considers itself the New Atlantis and so views the rest of Europe with a sneer. This is why we even have the phrase 'Continental' in the first place: there's Britain, and then those THOSE people.
The EU did not help the situation by beginning to exceed its original mandate in terms of micro-managing the internal affairs of the member states, and that was all the pretext the Brexit folks needed to cut out. But now with Britain out, the EU has lost a big part of its punch, and Putin is licking his chops over this reality.
>Until it dawned on me, we have become so cosmopolitan that people want an all powerful supranational entity to rule over their quasi-bohemian lifestyle.
This sort-of right. People want tyranny because it's easier to live when someone does all your thinking for you. How do you think institutional religion has lasted so long? Conservatives, in all their rigid social conformity are just as desiring of iron-fisted domination, because life is so much simpler when all you have to do every day is STFU and GBTW.

Anonymous 18/05/13(Sun)15:35 No. 13522 ID: 9a8723

Its more than that democracy also promotes division it promotes say an us vs them mentality while a monarchy promotes unity between the people. This is why in history Monarchies have shown consistently being more stable than democracies.

Anonymous 18/05/17(Thu)02:24 No. 13528 ID: eea1c2

Monarchy in the modern age would more likely than not )just like most totalitarian dictatorships) would fall at the hands of corruption, the rich would thrive even more than they do today, the lower middle class and the poor would be forced to deal with high prices, the way most monarchs are so stable is the same reason most dictatorships would last, on top of that now you have a populous that know about democracy. Which is why I would think that the problem doesn't lie at the type of government, but at the ignorance of the people to nationalism and pride in their nation (Probably why people don't have that much of a problem with immigrants)
Surely if people wanted to follow and be lead by an all powerful entity, they would follow the what the media says, right?

Anonymous 18/05/19(Sat)18:25 No. 13531 ID: 1e4c65

>implying they don't follow what the media says unconditionally today

Anonymous 18/12/24(Mon)06:56 No. 13831 ID: 7270ce

The best part of a democracy is everyone gets a vote.

The worst part of a democracy is everyone gets a vote.

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