-  [WT]  [PS]  [Home] [Manage]

[Return]
Posting mode: Reply
  1.   (reply to 21714)
  2. (for post and file deletion)
/rnb/ - Rage and Baww
  • Supported file types are: GIF, JPG, PNG, WEBM
  • Maximum file size allowed is 1000 KB.
  • Images greater than 200x200 pixels will be thumbnailed.
  • Currently 769 unique user posts. View catalog

  • Blotter updated: 2018-08-24 Show/Hide Show All

There's a new /777/ up, it's /Moldy Memes/ Check it out. Suggest new /777/s here.

Movies & TV 24/7 via Channel7: Web Player, .m3u file. Music via Radio7: Web Player, .m3u file.

WebM is now available sitewide! Please check this thread for more info.

Teenage Girl 17/10/25(Wed)05:22 No. 21714 ID: 9fd7e5
21714

File 150890173563.jpg - (73.36KB , 880x552 , funny-math-answer-drawing-bobby-show-your-thinking.jpg )


>>
Teenage Girl 18/01/23(Tue)17:13 No. 21800 ID: 6d78bf

>>21714
Correct answer is correct; illustrated thought is illustrated.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/02/27(Tue)20:36 No. 21816 ID: 4089f6

>>21800
There was a rant that was supposed to go with the picture, but the words disappeared.

It was about the concept of "show your work." Most people know at least one person in their math classes that found it stupid to write down what they can do in their head. There's a good chance you might have been that student, and I certainly was.

Teachers would try to use their standard arguments, but none seemed convincing. You want proof that I understand the processes? There's no proof better than having internalized the process so well I can do it in my head. How do you know I'm not just cheating by writing correct answers? The same way you don't know everyone else isn't cheating, but they're wasting more pencil lead doing it.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/02/27(Tue)20:37 No. 21817 ID: 4089f6

>>21816 cont.

Now there might be a few of you who thinks that I was, and am, being an asshole and need to shut up. The thing was, I eventually almost convinced myself of the same thing. My line of reasoning was that the process had little to do with math itself and more to do with surviving the petty tyrants in positions of bureaucracy. You know the kind: the ones who would look for the most chickenshit of paperwork errors to ruin your life, sometimes because they hate you specifically but more often because they like flexing the the tiny sliver of power that is the only control they have over anyone in their lives.

I decided to quit my bitching for a bit and play their little games to get through the course and move on with my life. So what's my problem now? My problem is the number of grown-ass adults who seem to struggle with doing math in their head. Don't just take my word for it. Go out there and do some basic mental arithmetic in front of other people and see what happens. They'll definitely look at you weird, as though you're a mighty wizard, a demonic witch, or just your friendly neighborhood autist. Why is that? Nothing about math requires supernatural powers or developmental disorders. What's going on?

Like with any complex issue, there are lots of things going on and many factors at play here. That being said, it can't be a productive thing for teachers to actively discourage students from mental arithmetic because they need to show their work.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/02/28(Wed)18:02 No. 21818 ID: 2855c4

>>21816
>There's a good chance you might have been that student
I was that student, in fact. I really was; it is uncanny to see you type that.

Particularly in Jr. High, when my Algebra teacher finally had to admit that I couldn't be cheating because I had the highest score on the final--after a year of treating me like a scoundrel and regularly giving me zeros on completed homework. Like you, I eventually gave in to the never-ending torrent of teachers and school facutly who refused to accept my work unless I demonstrated for them how I'd done it. Later on I stopped studying math however, because I found I had greater skills and interest in other areas, and now I am rusted out--I need a calculator just to calculate a percentage of an amount.

Perhaps, if my teacher had instead taken advantage of my disposition and encouraged me to try more challenging math classes, my life would be very different now. Some of my friends were taking out-of-school "gifted" classes that I couldn't join because I hadn't shown such aptitude earlier and there were mandatory requirements to be completed in elementary school. This is just one of many ways I look back on my school life with outrage and despair at how badly the system failed me.

I was very lucky in that the day came when my parents threatened legal action against the school if they would not permit me to enter some advanced placement classes my last year of Jr. High. I was failing several basic classes because the teachers were miserable, insufferable people and the work was literally boring me to death (I might have killed myself); in the AP classes I got As and Bs. I've heard the curriculum has changed, but I doubt the spirit of the education system in the United States ever will. Only the top 1% in elementary school have a chance to reach their full potential in secondary or tertiary education; even if an "ordinary" student begins to perform at higher level later on, the school will not "waste resources" by giving them greater challenges.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/03/03(Sat)03:08 No. 21819 ID: 4089f6

>>21818
>now I am rusted out--I need a calculator just to calculate a percentage of an amount.
This is the biggest tragedy to me. The fact that you chose a career that has less to do with math is beside the point. After all, not everyone chooses to be a literary critic, yet it still benefits individuals to know how to read and society as a whole to expect that most everyone can read.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/09/24(Mon)01:39 No. 22050 ID: 4ab80f

>>21817
This. Adults like to think themselves smart because of their age but when asked about simple trivia, they trip up. Yet they like to bully teenagers for getting questions wrong. I mean, I have adults think Im some genius because I talk about politics. Every kid in high school discusses politics. Just bc you dont hang out with them doesnt mean theyre incapable of intellectual shit.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/09/27(Thu)17:22 No. 22051 ID: 0f52f2

>>22050
Kids of all ages act more than happy to rise or lower to whatever expectations you put on them. The places with the most underage drinking and teen pregnancy tend to be the ones where no one sees a need to invest in other things for them to do because "they're just going to be irresponsible and trash everything." These same folks were there at the high school football game last Friday night and must have noticed the teenagers in the marching band responsibly handling tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars of instruments, uniforms, and props, but don't see the contradiction in their attitude.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/09/29(Sat)11:49 No. 22052 ID: 988da9

>>22051
Actually teen pregnancies (and infant mortality rates) are highest in areas who refuse to teach anything besides abstinence to teens for sexual education. Ignorant teens turn into ignorant adults.

They also have a higher instances of teens drinking bleach to prevent or abort a pregnancy.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/10/07(Sun)13:01 No. 22057 ID: 0f52f2

>>22052
That isn't necessarily a contradiction. The greatest cause of abstinence only sex ed is religiosity, and the greatest cause of that seems to be the local churches being the only adult-sanctioned social life one can have in a particular place. Churches, for their part, don't want to give up on their monopoly, so they'll want to challenge anything that could compete with them, so they preach a message of how outside their church everyone's uncontrollably depraved and dangerous. This leaves kids to either join the parent-sanctioned church youth group or be edgy and rebel in the only manner they have.

That brings up another question: if abstinence-only sex ed is so bad, why is abstinence-only alcohol education still a thing? I get how religious-minded folks would be consistent about that, but what about the more secular-minded folks that allow this to continue?


>>
Teenage Girl 18/10/07(Sun)15:22 No. 22058 ID: e11172

>>22057
>allow
You say that like anyone can make the jesus freaks do anything besides make the rest of us fucking miserable cleaning up their many, many messes.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/10/25(Thu)19:14 No. 22063 ID: 0f52f2

>>22058
yet somehow there are places where local elections don't get completely taken over by members of the First Fundagelical Church and sanity at least has a fighting chance. I recognize that in other places it's not as easy just because of sheer demographics, but your trendy nondenominationals with megachurch ambitions are set up to bust as dramatically as they've boomed.


>>
Teenage Girl 18/10/27(Sat)02:11 No. 22064 ID: a870df

>>22063
>set up to bust as dramatically as they've boomed
While I agree, its no fun waiting for the bust



[Return] [Entire Thread] [Last 50 posts]


Delete post []
Password  
Report post
Reason