*opiate virgin
ohgoddamniamdumb

fuck no retard

the first time I did Tdol I was nodding so heavy for 8 hours and I didn't take much since it had acetaminophen

I'm not entirely sure what 'no' means in this context... that tramadol isn't a reasonable start, or that tramadol won't be disappointing (or both)?

>>10682
tramadol is the opiate of peasants basically

If you live in Canada, UK or Australia, save yourself the time and money and do either of these two things, assuming you're an opiate noob.

1. But a bottle of Tylenol 1's (APAP plus 8mg Codeine) and do a CWE (cold water extraction) on them. Just search CWE. Cheap, easy and if you're opiate naive it will grant you a ok enough buzz for around $10. Which can net you a few doses from a bottle of 200.

Or/And

2. Buy anywhere from 200 to 500 grams of poppy seeds from a bulk food store. you can get 500g for around $5-6. If the seeds are unwashed (you might be fucked if you live in the States) then brew up some poppy seed tea (search it). Easy as fuck to do, cheap, and if you're lucky it can get you pretty high... Sometimes too high. Be careful.

I'm a junkie. I combine options 1 and 2 regularly when I cant score and I'm sick and in WD's. I have a pretty high tolerance to opiates. With 30 T1's and a pound of poppy seeds, while sick, I can usually get a fairly nice buzz going. Only if you get good, unwashed seeds. I live in Canada, and Ive yet to find any unwashed seeds from the bulk food stores.

Tram's, IMO and experience, are shit and they're also a fairly risky drug to use recreationaly, to my knowledge. I think it significantly lowers your seizure threshold after a certain dosage.

If you're new to OP's, you cant go wrong with OTC T1's and/or Poppy Seeds, especially for the price. I'm a seasoned vet and use them in a pinch, with significant results. Just my two cents.

Be safe and have fun! Opiates are godly.

>>10690
Thanks! Sadly, I'm in the US. For the record; my mother can take hydrocodone, oxycodone, and tramadol perfectly fine. But an allergic reaction to hospital morphine nearly killed her.

Assuming that I have exactly the same allergies as her (not that easy, I know...) where would codeine fall in here?

>>10694
You should be safe with Codiene as its not in the lineage of Morpine. But I have some advice for you my friend - whenever trying any kind of drug (especially Opiods) always start with small threshold doses & work your way up. I dont know how much exp. You have w/ other drugs so that advice you may have already heard b4 but I just wanted you to 'use' in a safe manner.

I would save Tram

I don't know what it is about me but I have tried plenty of opiates and never found any of them to be euphoric at all. Not even relaxing. They just make me tired, and nodding was not enjoyable at all.

Tramadol is a NSAID, I believe.

tramadol is as weak as it gets. only heroin has been able to get me high for the last10 years opiate-wise, so i honestly don't remember what it would feel like for the first time user.

Tramadol is fun, its the first opiate i used, Just don't take over 30 cause you might have a stroke.