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The Next War Yourgay!!OxAzMwZTMv 12/03/25(Sun)04:49 No. 13954
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After Iraq and finially Afghanistan, I think that the US needs to get involved in Mexico and their Drug War, which is turning bloody. There is much we could do to strengthen Mexico politically and economically, but this is /w/ so let's talk about the military aspect. The period of austery that the US military is now facing could be used to our advantage, since weapons and equipment could be supplied to Mexico on the cheap. Most important I think would be the MRAP vehicles that the military is going to quickly find no use for, UAV's, and helicopters. And the experience gained in Afghanistan and Iraq can be applied to the Drug War through the use of SF as advisors or PMC's. I'm not saying that we should get involved directly. But the US created the problem while it is getting worse and we are ignoring it. Any thoughts on other (military and weapons related things) the US could do?


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End Corruption? How? Anon 12/03/26(Mon)02:38 No. 13956

FPOB, you can't impose cultural change like that without occupying the country which we lack the money and manpower to do, thank goodness.

We are also crooked so we don't have an integrity surplus of our own...


In theory we could slow drug trafficking by a large degree is to seal the borders, banning immigration and searching everything coming in.

Its politically impossible on both the Left and Right and too expensive.

The other option, also politically impossible is to just legalize it and allow liquor stores to sell whatever.

This would reduce violence and maybe use as well but again not gonna happen.


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Sarah Palin 12/03/26(Mon)06:17 No. 13957

you ever get the feeling that you've been gently walked down the length of a Hegelian plank?


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Yourgay!!OxAzMwZTMv 12/03/26(Mon)22:55 No. 13960

Closing the borders is impractical, though they could be more regulated. An enlarged and reorganized Border Patrol, National Guard deployments along the border to supplament them, and increased Coast Guard patrols on the Pacific, Carribean, and Gulf of Mexico. And legalizing drugs will never happen. The only alternative is to provide military, economic, and social aid to the Mexican government and people. Think of a cross of Plan Colombia and the military aid sent to Israel during the Yom Kippur War. This is the only viable alterative, considering that this drug war could (hell, it already is practically) spread to the border reagions of the US.


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Sarah Palin 12/03/27(Tue)21:11 No. 13964

well... you can always close the border with our good friend Mr. ATOMIC ENERGY, or his new pal KINETIC ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT

www.chymist.com/The%20Plan%20to%20Nuke%20Panama.pdf
http://videosift.com/video/Operation-Plowshare-Let-s-use-nukes-for-civil-engineering
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plowshare
http://voices.yahoo.com/nuclear-weapons-may-already-obsolete-5255529.html

and when you're done, you'd have a really nice radioactive canal going from the gulf coast to baja


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Sarah Palin 12/03/28(Wed)03:58 No. 13965

I don't quite see what OP's point is. If it is finding an use for the US contingent, getting rid of more or less deprecated equipment and overall just getting something to throw public money at, yes, it is a rather good idea. >>13960's approach seems the most reasonable on those topics.
A parallel internal operation would be necessary aswell. Reinforcing the border can only do so much, the cartels are at least operating business in the US soil already and terrorism is cheap as ever.
But that's mostly to show some work and rather clumsily isolate the US from the situation.

Now, an intervention intending to really bring peace into Mexico wouldn't be mostly militar at all. First there'd be much work to do on cleaning corruption from Mexico's military/government, cutting bank accounts(then punishing the responsible for covering them, which is as impracticable as legalizing drugs) and whatnot before any military operation becomes viable.
Then, organizing such intervention would be complicated. Mexico's policial and military forces seem to be completely demoralized or just completely dissolved in some areas, a joint force would be definitely necessary, if only to provide numbers.
On dismantling the cartels themselves I have no idea, big numbers and superior equipment can't really do much agains't modern guerrillas.
At least restoring safety to the civilians and preventing attacks on infrastructure, in short, giving conditions to the state regenerate itself, is crucial. But easier said than done, and any further dissertation would require knowledge in what networks are there to be disrupted, how would one do that and its effects, which I don't have.
All that while working on the border and internally to avoid retaliation on US soil, which is a lot easier than it is for middle eastern groups.

So, tl;dr reinforcing Mexico's military, focus on preventing state failure and hoping for breakthroughs on how to deal with such groups(which I don't believe the US has perfected enough), but only after a thorough cleanup.


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Sarah Palin 12/04/01(Sun)12:30 No. 13983

Meh, fuck the mexicans. I live in a city in cali full of em. Perhaps it's 70% mexican and only a small percentage of that actually respect this country .


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Sarah Palin 12/04/02(Mon)03:26 No. 13988

"Let's warm up the NUKES..."


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Sarah Palin 12/07/07(Sat)02:27 No. 14164

>2012
>any solution to the war on drugs other then legalization and regulation.
Shiggidy Diggidy Doo Wop


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Sarah Palin 12/07/07(Sat)02:28 No. 14165

>2012
>any solution to the war on drugs other then legalization and regulation.
Shiggidy Diggidy Doo Wop


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Sarah Palin 12/12/03(Mon)03:32 No. 14382

The US won't invade mexico for one simple reason: Mexico hasn't got any (substantial amount of) oil.


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