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Anonymous 20/07/21(Tue)18:28 No. 1900 ID: c15524
1900

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Should the United States ban all political parties?

And I do mean all of them.


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Anonymous 20/07/23(Thu)03:16 No. 1901 ID: 2a3d9c

>>1900
YES


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Anonymous 20/07/23(Thu)20:42 No. 1902 ID: a2e999

How?


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Anonymous 20/08/06(Thu)10:56 No. 1905 ID: e0089d

>>1902
A constitutional amendment would be nice.

The people have the power to push it through with a 3/4ths referendum, but good luck getting 75% of eligible voters to agree on any one thing after two centuries of partisanism.


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Anonymous 20/08/22(Sat)01:57 No. 1911 ID: 9e9ab3

Seriously, how would you even do that? Political parties are just platforms for ideas; and ideas are bulletproof Yell at black people on the internet


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Anonymous 20/08/22(Sat)08:11 No. 1913 ID: 6701ec

>>1911
Don't mind him, he just hates political parties because he's autistic and feels uncomfortable around other people. He thinks if there are no political parties there won't be any groups of people for him to feel uncomfortable around. As I said... autistic...


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Anonymous 20/08/23(Sun)11:51 No. 1916 ID: fbcc2a

>>1911
Only the lazy and stupid rely on a party to get their ideas. People should be forced to have their own ideas and opinions.


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Anonymous 20/08/23(Sun)20:56 No. 1917 ID: f4ee5d

>>1916
so, consensus should be illegal?


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Anonymous 20/09/02(Wed)16:05 No. 1919 ID: 0c2cc0

>>1917
Parties do not promote consensus, they engineer it.

For democracy, and the system of checks and balances laid out in the constitution to function, we need voters to consider only their own interests--not what their party tells them to be interested in.

>>1913
How do those boots taste?

>>1911, see >>1905.


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Anonymous 20/09/03(Thu)02:11 No. 1920 ID: 70f1b0

>>1919
>we need voters to consider only their own interests
but how true is that, even? let's say, according to my own interests, i'd like drugs to be decriminalised because i'm an occasional user and i don't see anything wrong with it. however, how do i know it's the same for everyone else and there's no way it can cause some kind of a drug crisis/pandemic that will eventually fuck everything up? i work minimum wage, so it's in my interest for minimum wage to go up. the fact i might end up losing my job because my boss can't afford to suddenly pay all his employees a higher wage, is no longer "my own interest", right? the reason most people don't make the laws, is because most people don't know what's good or bad for most other people - they should, because laws just so happen to apply to us all equally. if everyone got/did whatever the fuck they wanted, it wouldn't be called democracy, but you already know this and are for some reason scared to call it by its name.


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Anonymous 20/09/04(Fri)20:11 No. 1921 ID: 641a38

>>1920
Why don't you trust yourself? Why do you need someone to think for you? What did they do to you when you were a child?

It doesn't matter if you, or any particular individual is right or wrong; democracy is self-buffering: once everyone's votes are counted, whatever the majority voted for is what the government will do. Maybe we all together do vote for something stupid, like prohibiting alcohol, but most of the time we--as a single collective--choose what's best for most of us.

Against your vote will be other votes, some of them from people who know better than you and some from people who don't. What matters is that we don't have a huge group of people who all vote the same way because they were told to by someone--because that someone could be wrong.

As long as each individual votes as an individual, the risk of doing something really stupid with democracy is greatly reduced.

If people get together and vote all the same way because they're afraid of themselves, they not only fail to express the majority will, but risk amplifying the idiocy of their leaders.


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Anonymous 20/09/05(Sat)17:35 No. 1922 ID: 70f1b0

>>1921
right, so you're actually advocating for proportional representation, not anarchism; my bad. that, is something i definitely agree with.


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Anonymous 20/09/10(Thu)10:17 No. 1923 ID: 302ee3

>>1922
Always have been.


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Anonymous 20/09/13(Sun)23:18 No. 1925 ID: cf97d8

>>1900
yes


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Anonymous 20/10/04(Sun)22:36 No. 1932 ID: 7b9d78
1932

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It would be so much better if the US worked like Russia, where parties don't matter because the only ones who can win are the ones who the man at the top says can win.


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Anonymous 20/10/08(Thu)12:56 No. 1933 ID: 843069
1933

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>>1932

Hmmm...., that's interesting. So like all of the EU and the U.S.A., and at the moment every country I can think of on this planet.

Have you been aware of this for a while or is this realization some what new to you ?

Any way chin up, solider on and all that. There's a good anon.


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Anonymous 20/10/23(Fri)10:26 No. 1934 ID: 7cb4c3

Shouldn't it just require a more fair system of itself? This isn't niggers, just banning a name won't make greed go away


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Anonymous 20/12/10(Thu)02:12 No. 1952 ID: a115ac

>>1934
Overturning citizens united with a constitutional amendment would be a good start.

The fuckery really started when the 1% wealth exploded and they started owning a sizable portion of congress, who no longer had to pay attention to their voters because they'd vote for whatever their particular flavor of media (also owned by the 1%) told them to vote for.


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Anonymous 21/01/23(Sat)20:05 No. 1972 ID: f48af6

Abolishing all political parties implies a move towards direct democracy. Which, let’s be fair, is a great move.


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Anonymous 21/03/26(Fri)08:59 No. 1999 ID: 7cb4c3

I don't think it would change anything.

More niggers, more problems. No niggers, no problems. Look at how well countries were doing before welfare... No robberies, no random serial killers... Then, niggers


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Anonymous 21/04/08(Thu)03:20 No. 2002 ID: a7c52b

>>1999
Right now, I want you to picture a giant boot stepping on you and all the niggers (and gays and Jews and whoever else you don't like). The boot is on the foot of some rich old guy or a corporation like Amazon or Google or whatever.

Now, remove all those niggers and whatever else. You're supporting the boot all by yourself. Now, please explain to the class, how this is better for you. Because if you think the rich are going to magically stop oppressing you and stealing from you, you're delusional.


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Anonymous 21/04/10(Sat)08:42 No. 2005 ID: eb341a

>>2002
So long as you tell poor white trash there's someone worse than him, he'll hate those people instead of paying attention to the ones actually responsible for making his life hell.

But it's like abortion and Republicans, they'll never outlaw it because then they couldn't fundraise off it.


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Anonymous 21/06/18(Fri)00:58 No. 2032 ID: 6f8a99

>>2002
It's better because there are no niggers and jews. That's one hell of an easy question.


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Anonymous 21/07/13(Tue)16:46 No. 2081 ID: aa6bf9

>>2002
Why would a rich old man steal from you, a poor nigger? Corporations can only "steal" from you if you willingly give them your money. Meanwhile the government straight up takes your money and you don't get a say in how much of it they'll take or what they'll spend it on. You are likewise delusional, if you think that the government will stop the corporations from being evil. They'll issue a slap-on-the-wrist fine, go spend it on hookers, then come back for some more cash a few years later. It is a mutually beneficial relationship, because the evil corporation is allowed to exist, as long as the government gets a cut. Why would the government deny themselves this luxury, when they can just keep shaving bucks off a big corp and still come out looking like they just saved the day?


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Anonymous 21/08/06(Fri)14:33 No. 2093 ID: 9ae865

>>2081
>Corporations can only "steal" from you if you willingly give them your money
You are now aware of the concept of "monopoly" and how it robs consumers of choice.

>the government straight up takes your money and you don't get a say in how much of it they'll take or what they'll spend it on
You are now aware of the concept of "voting" and how--at least in the United States--it applies to elections of both state and federal representatives as well as state laws.

>delusional, if you think that the government will stop the corporations from being evil
You got this one right.

>Why would the government deny themselves this luxury, when they can just keep shaving bucks off a big corp
The government doesn't "shave bucks" off big corporations: it does everything it can to avoid charging them or their owners any taxes of any kind. This is how they promote the evil you mentioned a sentence before: by letting them get away with whatever they do and neither taxing nor fining them into compliance with anything.


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Anonymous 21/09/29(Wed)08:39 No. 2104 ID: 6f8a99

>>2093
You could have at least brought up productive solutions like antitrust laws, but unfortunately you're a retarded moron communist completely stuck in your street agitator indoctrination. As such, you can only point to le evil corporation as the root of all problems.

If only it were dividing and conquering anything other than normal people against you lunatics.


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Anonymous 21/10/04(Mon)05:44 No. 2106 ID: 15c902
2106

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>>2104
>communist
It's cute that you think you know what that word means but of course like all conservatives... you have no fucking clue.

Enjoy growing old and dying alone, you miserable prick.


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Anonymous 21/11/02(Tue)07:24 No. 2122 ID: 6f8a99

>>2106
I don't think being called cute by a communist is very flattering. Nor does it change the fact that you are a radical hardcore communist. You've successfully added nothing to the conversation, which I suppose in some small way is better than the endless destruction that communism inevitably results in.


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Anonymous 21/11/05(Fri)20:54 No. 2124 ID: 15c902
2124

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>>2122
Does your sugar daddy give you a shiny nickel every time you type the word communist?


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Anonymous 21/11/06(Sat)00:16 No. 2125 ID: b55b33

>>2106
All communists must fucking hang.


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Anonymous 21/11/07(Sun)10:25 No. 2126 ID: def6ba

>>2125
Seriously though, without getting into a discussion of what this word actually means and what it means to you:

What did the people you call communists do to you?


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Anonymous 21/11/08(Mon)13:39 No. 2127 ID: 1a270c

>>2126
>What did the people you call communists do to you?
Killed my favorite genre of literature, and deprived the world of countless works of art.

The Russian perspective was such a culturally rich, intelligent, thoughtful, interesting and unique point of view. Gogol, Pushkin, Dostoyevsky, Tolstoy. All masters of the written word.
1920 happens and it all stops.
Stupid, useless retarded fuckin commies killed every single independent thought in the country. For what reason?
Because they thought they'd make some sort of utopia based on absolutely fucking nothing but their own arrogance.

Every commie must be cleansed from this Earth so that civilization may live.


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Anonymous 21/11/08(Mon)20:34 No. 2129 ID: 1a270c

>>2126 
>>2127 
Just so we're crystal, by "commie", I mean every marxist/communist/socialist, word game playing, arrogant, power hungry, retarded, little FUCKFACE, and by "cleansed", I mean chained to a trailer hitch and fucking road hauled until they're nothing but a fucking pelvis wearing a belt.


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Anonymous 21/11/09(Tue)07:18 No. 2130 ID: 15c902
2130

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>>2129
>arrogant, power hungry, retarded, little FUCKFACE
So, in other words, you hate yourself.

Which makes sense since you're a pedo.


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Anonymous 21/11/10(Wed)00:10 No. 2131 ID: 1a270c

>>2130
Nice defense. I'm sorry that you're not as smart as you thought. Must break your heart.


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Anonymous 21/11/11(Thu)05:02 No. 2133 ID: 15c902
2133

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>>2131
>defense
No defense here, just calling you a filthy pedo.

Someone's trying to argue his way out of eating his gun and you're losing, aren't you, pedo.


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Anonymous 21/11/13(Sat)19:41 No. 2136 ID: 4977bc

>>2133
I was taken aback before I remembered your a commie retard. Espouse those retarded commie ideals outside and I'll cave your fuckin skull in, k?


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Anonymous 21/11/13(Sat)23:56 No. 2137 ID: 15c902
2137

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>>2136
Well that makes sense, someone exposes your pedophilia and your first impulse is violence, much like the violence you commit against defenseless children every day. DIAF you sick fuck.


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Anonymous 21/11/14(Sun)00:22 No. 2138 ID: 0d70fb

>>2137
So, you're a filthy commie fuck... and a weird slanderous faggot?

You make me fucking sick. I'd kick your scrot up your throat, you sick weird commie faggot.


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Anonymous 21/11/14(Sun)00:24 No. 2139 ID: 15c902
2139

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>>2138
Glad to see you've admitted to being a pedo. Maybe now you can eat that gun you masturbate to every night.


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Anonymous 21/11/14(Sun)01:19 No. 2140 ID: 0d70fb

>>2139
Wtf are you talking about, you retarded fuck?

Die in a fucking fire.


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Anonymous 21/11/15(Mon)15:35 No. 2141 ID: 12d9db

>>2140
He seems to think "pedo" is a slanderous thing to call someone.

He doesn't understand where he is.

Nothing to get worked up about.


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Anonymous 21/11/16(Tue)04:57 No. 2142 ID: 09dc9c

>>2141
>He seems to think "pedo" is a slanderous thing to call someone.
That is a slanderous thing to call someone.
>Nothing to get worked up about.
NO YOU CALM DOWN!


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Anonymous 21/11/16(Tue)11:49 No. 2143 ID: f503a1
2143

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>>2142
You don't know where you are.


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Anonymous 21/11/16(Tue)13:17 No. 2144 ID: c24d73

>>2143
And here comes some clueless faggot, fresh from encyclopedia dramatica now. Get AIDS.


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Anonymous 21/11/16(Tue)15:19 No. 2145 ID: 12d9db

>>2144
>clueless
Says the guy who thinks "pedo" is an insult on 7chan.


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Anonymous 21/11/17(Wed)03:06 No. 2146 ID: 15c902
2146

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>>2145
I just figured it'd make as much sense to call him a pedo as he does claiming everyone who disagrees with him is a communist.

He wouldn't know a communist if one walked up and slapped their dick across his face. Which, I believe, is what happens to him every weeknight.

Except for the communist part.


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Anonymous 21/11/17(Wed)07:04 No. 2147 ID: c24d73

>>2145
Do you wanna fight? Is that what this is about?


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Anonymous 21/11/17(Wed)13:38 No. 2148 ID: 12d9db

>>2146
>it'd make as much sense to call him a pedo as he does claiming everyone who disagrees with him is a communist
At last, common ground. Yes, that is equally nonsensical; no, he has no idea what a communist is; maybe, his father does whack him with is penis every night before bed.

>>2146
No, I want to make love--to little girls.


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Anonymous 21/11/18(Thu)00:20 No. 2149 ID: c24d73

>>2148
>he has no idea what a communist is
Alright, douche bag, I'll ask. What do you think a communist is? Define communism/a communist.


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Anonymous 21/11/18(Thu)13:43 No. 2150 ID: 12d9db

>>2149
A communist is an adherent to, or supporter of communism: a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.


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Anonymous 21/11/19(Fri)04:10 No. 2151 ID: 15c902
2151

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>>2150
Yep.

And the thing is, there are communist political parties in the US. They make about as big a showing each year as the Libertarian party does. Which is to say, not a whole lot. But at least they don't let hairy fat guys wearing thongs strip off all their clothes at their convention and strut around like they're God's gift to humanity.

Of course nobody who advocates for the nationalization of all fossil fuel companies, factories, steel mills, automotive companies, etc., etc. actually belongs to a major party.

Not even Bernie.


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Anonymous 21/11/19(Fri)12:59 No. 2152 ID: ce5741

>>2150
I see and is community a quantifiable number or amount space?
Because it seems like it's not.

Who would be the judge of people's abilities and needs?
I call that job. My needs are greatest and outweigh anyone else's.


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Anonymous 21/11/20(Sat)04:11 No. 2153 ID: 12d9db

>>2152
>My needs are greatest and outweigh anyone else's

This is why there are no "communist" countries on the planet Earth. There's always some asshole like you who dumps a huge authoritarian shit on the revolution before anyone has a chance to set up a system that would actually protect the division of property and wealth from someone like you.

Maybe it can never work. Maybe there will always be this asshole. I'm not advocating for it anyway. My point was to get you to comprehend that the pejorative use of "communist" you learned in whatever red state you had the misfortune of growing up in does not actually mean "communist".

What you hate isn't communism or communists. What you hate is a fictional boogeyman made up by corporate gluttons for their co-opted politicians to pretend to stand against and their media co-horts to drum up every time the public starts to get overly dissatisfied with the abject failure of western democracy and capitalism to satisfy their most basic needs.


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Anonymous 21/11/21(Sun)03:11 No. 2154 ID: 80a373

>>2153
>Maybe it can never work. Maybe there will always be this asshole.
Maybe? There's always an asshole. Always. Like what is wrong with you that you haven't learned that people will always do what they can? So extremely cavalier with people's lives that they start a revolution with absolutely no fucking plan for government or prevention of despotism.

>I'm not advocating for it anyway. My point was to get you to comprehend that the pejorative use of "communist" you learned in whatever red state you had the misfortune of growing up in does not actually mean "communist".
I grew up and still currently reside in the bluest blue state in existence, and I know commies well. Liars. Constantly gaslighting, excusing, and manipulating. I stand by what I said. Say one thing and do another.

>What you hate isn't communism or communists. What you hate is a fictional boogeyman made up by corporate gluttons for their co-opted politicians to pretend to stand against and their media co-horts to drum up every time the public starts to get overly dissatisfied with the abject failure of western democracy and capitalism to satisfy their most basic needs.
1. Don't tell me what I hate. I hate you, commie scum.
2. Not so bad. Had Outback tonight. You never saw anyone in West Berlin sneaking into East Berlin to escape the horrors of capitalism.


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Anonymous 21/11/22(Mon)00:35 No. 2155 ID: 15c902
2155

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>>2154
>Berlin
Actually there were quite a few defectors from the west.

East Germany had a very long, very contentious relationship with USSR, any attempt to claim that East Germany represented the totality of communism is specious logic at best, disinformation at worst.

You really should spend more time studying history instead of living your life in ignorance of it.


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Anonymous 21/11/22(Mon)02:25 No. 2156 ID: 80a373

>>2155
Should I go with the Russo-Ukranian famine of the late 40's and it's mirror in The Great Chinese Famine in early 1950's as a communist characteristic?

Both totally preventable. The lesson being the state can't distribute resources as fast a market or predict futures like a market.

60 million people died to teach us that lesson and you still go on.


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Anonymous 21/11/25(Thu)14:01 No. 2157 ID: 12d9db

>>2156
Round and round she goes, where her circular logic stops everybody knows: nowhere ever.

Go find some place that doesn't have a sickle and hammer logo to be willfully ignorant.


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Anonymous 21/11/26(Fri)22:44 No. 2158 ID: f8ad27

>>2157
And here comes the retard to spout more defensive, gaslighting bullshit. No wonder you're alone on Thanksgiving.


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ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ 21/11/28(Sun)02:45 No. 2159 ID: 12d9db
2159

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>>2158
>defensive, gaslighting bullshit.
>No wonder you're alone on Thanksgiving.
ಠ_ಠ


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Anonymous 21/11/29(Mon)05:01 No. 2160 ID: 15c902
2160

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>>2156
Actually the former is called the Holodomor and occurred because Ukrainians were organizing to leave the USSR. When crop yields went down the Russians decided to let Ukrainians starve and use that food to feed Russians, so Russians could then take over Ukrainian land.

It has nothing to do with communism, has everything to do with Russians doing what Russians have always done.


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Anonymous 21/12/04(Sat)02:21 No. 2161 ID: 6f8a99

>>2160
>n-no!
>b-but it wasn't True Communism (tm)
every single time


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Anonymous 21/12/09(Thu)06:23 No. 2169 ID: 7cb4c3

You were supposed to have two different choices at least every single time, not the same exact platform with a new puppet on top


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Anonymous 21/12/17(Fri)16:03 No. 2171 ID: d4d8d4
2171

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>>2161
>I have one horse and I'll beat it no matter how little sense it makes to keep beating it


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Anonymous 22/01/10(Mon)16:46 No. 2178 ID: 6f8a99

>>2171
Good job talking about yourself and your childish fixation on communism.


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Anonymous 22/01/11(Tue)00:57 No. 2179 ID: da1b31
2179

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>>2178
>fixation on communism


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Anonymous 22/03/22(Tue)19:22 No. 2189 ID: 41b04f
2189

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>>2178


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Anonymous 22/04/27(Wed)05:16 No. 2195 ID: c6090e
2195

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>>2189
So the guy... who claims everything is communism... doesn't have a fixation on communism... but all the people he claims are communist... do. That's what you're going with?


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Anonymous 22/05/28(Sat)02:10 No. 2207 ID: 6f8a99
2207

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>>2195
>communist complains that I think "everything is communism" after being called out for being a communist


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Anonymous 22/07/28(Thu)16:52 No. 2219 ID: 05b7ed

>>2160
>leaving the USSR
>Nothing to do with communism



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