>>22668
That's not what I was talking about, that's simply individual accountability to God. The very concept of "original sin" implies a collectivist morality and this is simply a fact. Anyways, in a society consistent with it, everyone should try to abide by the Old Testament's laws, but most Abrahamists are inconsistent when it's inconvenient. Christians simply abolish a large portion of the laws, Muslims claim it's been corrupted, and rabbinic jews use pilpul to justify homosexuality among other things.
>>22670
To be fair, this overlap is often even acknowledged by many jews, but less-so by right-wing Christians and Wahhabis.

>>22666
Is Bernie a "boomer conservative" ?

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>>22672
>>22672
>>22672
"GroovyGlobetrotter" It's always Sunnydale on Halloweenmas!

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>>22673
What a confusing post.

>>22670
Hell, Christian right-wingers have more in common with Sharia Islam, their biggest enemy.
Some pro-Christian alt-righters have even semi-jokingly referred to themselves as "white sharia."

>>22678
Indeed, extremists of all sorts have far more in common with each other than the rest of humanity.

Lazy niggers have a ton in common with white trash rednecks. They both hate the police, have a gun obsession, have fragile egos that requires a violent response to any perceived slight, the list just goes on and on...

>>22661
You can have free speach and expression without the baggage of making everything else free.

You can regulate the market all you want. So long as it's livable and not something retarded like communism I'm fine. I don't really care about that sort of thing either way.

I just don't want the government to pretend like it's my mom. I'm an adult. I know what's good for me, and if I fuck up it's my responsibility.

>>22681
That's nice and all, but when you start infecting other people because of your freedumb then you're not actually being an adult.

>>22680
Horseshoe theory.
The irony is in every camp of extremists, their "public enemies" are the other camps of extremist schools of thought, whom they assume is infecting the masses.
Ironically, the masses are ignorant and scornful of any extremist school of thought.

Another thing is, people assume Right-wing ones, are either mentally-and-dentally-challenged rednecks or fat pimply edgelord wusses.
The truth is, most Right-wing extremists are white suburban guys that are well-read, well-dressed, etc.
The reason why they believe what they believe is because they love too much.
Their perceived world is under attack and they're going into defensive mode.

Remember, love and hate are intertwined with each other. They're not polar opposites as they're polar reflexes of each other.

That's why I get annoyed when people say the alt-right is just a bunch of teen edgelords bc it's not. It's a bunch of white adult males who take themselves too seriously.

>>22682
Adults are just overgrown children. Especially the politically enthusiastic ones.

Most of our books that are read by 35+ folks are self-help, politics, and/or philosophy.
I mean, people know more about what some limp-dick senior in a suit hundreds of miles away says about brown people than what's crawling in their front lawns.
These same people will pay hundreds of dollars to see another limp-dick senior talk about how thoughts can affect physical reality ("law of attraction"), which is no different from astrology.
Yet, these same people again will pay to listen to yet another limp-dick senior talk about how some natural phenomenon is related to government experiments or cosmic predators.
Yet the average working-class adult cannot be bothered to pick a book about earth science.
They don't care about their natural environment until some hurricane, earthquake, or volcanic eruption, forces them out of their world of philosophy and politics.
Do you know how amusing it is that more people over 30 believe the earth is flat?

To be fair the porn really is gross, vomiting on someone's shoe isn't the basic idea of freedom

>>22690
And neither is shoving nostalgia crap on the Internet because you can't grow out of your childhood.

>>22698
Could we avoid the term nostalgia for a bit or is that the new forced meme

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>>22705
>>203345398
Out of how many billions? Pray enter, Conker.

>>22707
Just seems a little heavy at the moment, kind of off-putting

>>22685
>They don't care about their natural environment until some hurricane, earthquake, or volcanic eruption, forces them out of their world of philosophy and politics.
That doesn't work. They just blame the natural event on gays in the military or the breakdown of the American family or because uncle Billy touched them at night oh wait no not that not that at all no it must be because gays are allowed to marry. That's why God sent the hurricane... to punish them... who doesn't believe in any of those things...

It pisses me of too but it's just a weird, non-voting fraction of /pol/tards. Very few actual adults oppose sex.

>>22710
They oppose young people having sex or any other personal freedoms.

>>22710
Please read >>22684.

>>22710
>non-voting fraction of /pol/tards.
Technically, since they are all underage, no /pol/tards vote.

Also, wtf is /pol/? This is 7chan, there is no /pol/ here.

>>22713
Poltards are not all underage. They are older than you think. If you seen their rallies, alot of them are 20/30-somethings. You mistake the loud edgy secondary-schoolers for the entirety.

>>22714
>You mistake the loud edgy secondary-schoolers for the entirety.
You try and make that sound like something new and profound. It's not. With any portrayal of any demographic, a smaller sub-population are always used as the poster child for the masses. Which sub-population is chosen is normally down to illustrator bias.

Also;

>If you seen their rallies, alot of them are 20/30-somethings.
Why are you going to their rallies, you a fedora tipping incel to?

>>22715
>a fedora tipping incel
Sounds likely.

>mistake the loud edgy secondary-schoolers for the entirety
If no one can tell the difference, does it matter?

>>22709
This. Christian fundamentalists are alternative astrologists.

When white suburbia is getting shaken up, "God is angry with us". But when hundreds of brown people die from war and poverty? "Meh, it's just nature taking its course."

Or, conspiracy theorists who get their knowledge of the outside world from half-assed "declassified" reports. They think they know everything, yet they cannot basic science.

>>22685

I'm fully convinced that most people are entirely masochistic and allow bad things to happen accordingly. We really could solve a lot of shit overnight, but then what would a lot more people do with themselves?

>>22720
I don't think that's true, most of their issues are learned behaviors

>>22720
>>22721
Humans are sentimental beings that use logic to get they want. They cannot think logically. To be logical means to be a plain old "dumb" computer.
AI doesn't count because it's sentient.
In fact, all sentient beings are sentimental beings.

So yes, most people are masochists by primary and secondary natures. But they're also sadistic.

>>22725
You're selling yourself too short!

Exceed!

>>22728
How?

>>22660
Shut up libtard

>>22732
No you.

>>22732
No you.

>>22682
My point is that you should be responsible for you.

Actions should only be punishable if they negatively impact others without their consent. If you do or agree to something that leads to an outcome you don't like, it's your problem, not mine.

>>22732
No you.

>>22731
Focus your own opinions and choices into the world and see them for more than a product

>>22660

Theres no limitation to how utterly retarded a rightoid will fucking be as long as its convinced that someone, somewhere, is offended by it. It'll shit in its hand and smear it on the walls of its own home if you tell it a woman in California would get mad. And for all the posturing about being more down to earth and All-American than the witch-hunting, canceling, censoring left, the right still seems to never actually want to mind its own business, because again, if the left just happens to fall in favor of something that coincides with individual liberty, the right will immediately posture in the opposite direction and decide that freedom is for communists. Oh, don't let me forget about the hypocrisy. Rightoids are thin skinned as shit. Just look at the response to threads like these popping up in what they thought was their echo chamber!

Congratulations OP in learning that conservatives are puritanical busybodies that use whatever political means to prop up and push their dying religion and basic as fuck lifestyle on others.

Also, could you imagine how idiotic it would be to base a political ideology around being stubborn and not changing things while living within and even promoting capitalism, a dynamic economic system that is constantly changing to satisfy the needs and whims of the market? Be glad you're not a conservative.

>>24114
This. Western conservatism is a joke.
They say liberalism is the plague. Yet, liberalism is the foundation of Western society. Liberalism is what allows citizens individual rights.
Liberalism is what allows people to agree to disagree.

In fact, leftism is often confused with liberalism. Leftism is about class struggle and abolishing decadence.

>>24116

"Conservatives" do not exist. "Conservatives" aren't even interested in politics. They function solely to piss people off. Think about it. These people are contrarians, who hate everything without offering their own alternatives or solutions. Their entire platform is basically "No."

>>24143
Honestly, at this point, I think most conservatives are just adults that haven't been diagnosed with Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD).

Seriously, this shit fits them like a glove:
>Often loses temper
>Is often touchy or easily annoyed
>Is often angry and resentful
>Often argues with authority figures or for children and adolescents, with adults
>Often actively defies or refuses to comply with requests from authority figures or with rules
>Often deliberately annoys others
>Often blames others for his or her mistakes or misbehavior
>Has been spiteful or vindictive at least twice within the past 6 month

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppositional_defiant_disorder

>Imagine being over 18 and living your life with a childhood mental illness.

Like holy fuck, psychiatrists, do your fucking jobs.

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>>24153

I honestly couldn't have said it any better myself. That's why when you remind them with facts like that Biden grew up as a tradcath middle-class football playing chad in Pennsylvania while Trump grew up as a godless underachieving son of a millionaire in the most Jewish part of New York, goes right over their heads. And they even literally thought outing Biden's son as a dude who does lots of drugs and gets lots of pussy would somehow harm Biden. You could ask what planet they live on, but like I said, they don't have any principles:

>Trump fucks models and is know to be debauched
>conservatives: Lol, what a chad why are you so mad Libtard?

>Hunter Biden fucks models and is found to be debauched
>conservative: Why are you guys not mad Libtards?

They always have built-in excuses. For them, focusing on "gotchas" and "look how hypocritical the left is" and then calling it a day is all they do. Their whole schtick is fuck you, I got mine, and if it means doing serious damage to the causes they're appropriating, well, so what? They gotta get the attention they never got from daddy somehow. Funny how conservatives and sluts have so much in common.

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>>24165

Oh, and don't forget the whole "think of the children" angle too that they do. They'll whine that school shootings are fake, that kids who walk out are literal traitors, that they can take their precious penile substitutes from their cold, dead hands, blah blah blah, for a decade plus, but what do they do now?

>COVID hysteria has gotten out of control! We need to think of the mental health of our kids!

What, the exact same kids you used to hope got shot up for protesting the fact that you didn't care about them getting shot up? The exact same kids whom you spent a decade plus belittling and dehumanizing at every opportunity? The exact same kids whose worries about climate change are seen as stupid and even treasonous? The exact same kids that you insist don't know any better and are brainwashed by big bad social media, most of which you yourselves couldn't last long without? It all boils down to being contrarians. I said it for over a decade. They stood for the Iraq War even though we ALL knew it was bullshit. They stood for Afghanistan when we ALL knew it was bullshit. They stood by Trump when we ALL knew he was a bullshitter, just like they did with Dubya and Reagan. They stand by Israel, when we ALL know we should have NOTHING to do with EITHER side in that fiasco. They claim to be Christian, yet we ALL know they are as phony as Gretta Vosper. They claim to be concerned about white genocide, but Breivik is considered a hero because he owned a bunch of libs or whatever.

The Needle Drop basically went to the jugular, and he was right on the money:

>conservatives are not fun, creative, smart, empathetic, or interesting.

>that's why they don't make great art. their art sucks ass. period.

>the best music consistently comes from the next generation of creatives looking to take risks and shake up the status quo aesthetically or socially.

>conservatism by its very nature isn't up for being daring. radical change is literally not in the philosophical equation.

What's the best they could come up with? Cartoon frogs and a cartoon about the Social Justice Warriors, Bias Response Team. Ever go read the comments on the YouTube video of the latter?

>Now I would like to watch an actual episode. Have it based in Chicago, with the skeleton justice wizard’s walking over hundreds of shooting victims to go shame someone with a maga hat.

I'll never get tired of the "FUCK NIGGERS LOL" crowd suddenly clutching their pearls about black on black crime. They're the ones walking over hundreds of school shooting victims to go shame some desk jockey who dared utter the initials CRT!

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>>24167

And lastly, speaking of The Needle Drop, conservative replies usually include references to classical music and literary classics, implying that art has a right-wing bias. Well, y'know what's really funny about that? Most of the stuff they're referring to was created by (absolute) monarchists, who would abhor pissant knaves like them having silly ideas like universal suffrage and freedom of religion. Y'know, ACTUAL right wingers, not assmad consoomers who wouldn't have given two fucks about politics if their product wasn't "ruined" - their version of pic related, someone who adopts politics just to fuck and have a social life, but usually has done neither and likely never will.

>>24168
Conservatism is relative.
Western conservatism is a paradox.
They say liberalism is bad, yet liberalism the foundation of Western civilization.
They confuse neoliberalism with leftism with classic liberalism.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/what-insane-developments-will-take-place-over-the-next-10-years.104502/page-2#post-10362241

>They are going separate us off and remove the natural way that we view one another next, because that is there largest sticking point currently. Expect supercool video gaming like Pokemon Go but the game will be transphobes hunted down in the streets for points that can be exchanged for real-life donuts.

If we didn't already establish that they only say this shit for contrarian purposes, I'd swear this was some level of self-parody. I mean, seriously, what goes through their head when they type this jabber? Fucking Kiwicels, I swear...

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What's funny about rightoids is that they like to boast about Alpha Males and all that, and yet I've yet to meet a single one who looks like picrel. Then again, rightoids idolize a movement led by a self-hating Jew, a scrawny, rat faced chicken farmer and an effeminate speechwriter who was likely a closeted homosexual. Oh, and a proto-burgerfat. Mishima alone probably had more T in his system than the entire Nazi Party leadership combined.

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This is amazing. Their entire identity is “anything liberals aren’t” so they find themselves in hilarious situations where they are trying to justify an unprovoked invasion of one sovereign nation by another. Solely because the libs support Ukraine, so there is no way in hell that they can too. The biggest irony in their contrarianism is that they became NPCs themselves, forever scripted to go against anything connected to any with left-winged connections. It's as I've said before, these so-called patriots are literally just liberals in everything but opinion, and even then they share the basic groundwork, just worded differently just to come off as "contrarians". But that's if they aren't sucking Trump, Putin, or Xi's dicks in their comments. They can say that they're just "pissing off the liberals", it still comes off as butthurt no matter how you slice it. But don't tell them that, oh no.

>>24465

Cope and seethe harder, buddy. Cope and seethe.

>>24461
At every turn I am impressed by their ability to avoid a complete mental breakdown.

Like how did the people who thought Hillary had to go to prison for keeping government files on her home computer and using a personal phone survive finding out that crates of government documents were being stashed in Mar-a-Lago?

I suppose one has to have a certain mental capacity to comprehend being wrong before one can be aware of their own hipocracy.

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>>24474

Even Russians can't stand 'em. They're like the rightoid equivalent of the fifty cent army, but they do it for free.

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>>24474

>Like how did the people who thought Hillary had to go to prison for keeping government files on her home computer and using a personal phone survive finding out that crates of government documents were being stashed in Mar-a-Lago?

The same reason that after all these years making fun of women's sports, cracking jokes about how nobody gives a shit about the WNBA and how high school boys can beat the USWNT in soccer, we're supposed to take their pearl clutching about trannies in women's sports seriously. Oh, won't someone please think of the natal women! Just proves the point that they're all contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, really. Hell, even /pol/tards will hype up My Name is Earl as being a GOAT show despite Crabman being black. They tell on themselves every so often.