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Teenage Girl 22/06/08(Wed)04:33 No. 24653 ID: d0ed56
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Is the parental philosophy of "youth is innocence/idealism" creating arrested development?

It seems to me that people nowadays more than ever are age-sensitive and are too obsessed about childhood memories.
We are also seeing more adults whom retain childish insecurities past puberty.
They overreact to kids making mistakes or developing worldly instincts.

Our entire contemporary culture is based on adults trying to extend the world of their childhood years into an eternal era.


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The+Red+Barron 22/06/09(Thu)06:24 No. 24655 ID: 7cb4c3
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So the goal they should be reaching for instead is what? There isn't really a problem in staying childish IMO


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Teenage Girl 22/06/09(Thu)15:01 No. 24656 ID: 6f4921

>>24655
Why do you think that being childish isn't a problem?


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Teenage Girl 22/06/10(Fri)09:03 No. 24661 ID: c49955

>Our entire contemporary culture is based on adults trying to extend the world of their childhood years into an eternal era.

But when you bring that up, you trigger so many anons, especially when you point out that it's ultimately why no one takes their petty "culture war" bullshit seriously. It's all a bunch of adults who can't cope with aging, so they rationalize it by thinking no, bro, it's all the work of (insert group here), not that I'm just getting older and naturally losing interest in old hobbies and pastimes. I find it hilarious when the terminally online talk about how America is for or against them. You faggots! The terminally OFFLINE would have every last one of you locked away for life in a mental asylum. To quote Frank Grimes, if you lived in ANY other country, you'd have starved to death LONG ago.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/10(Fri)09:08 No. 24662 ID: c49955

>>24655

They should be reaching for getting the fuck over the fact they're aging and moving on, giving kids and teens their culture back. Get the fuck out of youth spaces, including YA, video games and cartoons. Simple.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/10(Fri)19:39 No. 24666 ID: 4ff410
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>>24665

Because it's all an act. A grift. You have to understand that "wingcucks" are desperate as fuck for attention. Undiagnosed BPD/NPD/ODD headcases who never got attention from Mommy and Daddy, so they think if they just spout slurs and bullshit hot takes they damn well know they don't believe, over and over again, they'll get said attention. It's why they hate zoomers, because zoomers remind them of what they never had: parents who love them, an actual social life, pussy/dick (you'd be surprised at how many LGBT people act just like stereotypical incels), the works. And I know it's tempting to believe that there really are vast amounts of shitlibs and cuckservatives running around trying to start shit or whatever, but believe me, the vast majority of the population is apolitical and irreligious. Oh, sure, they may have a few beliefs here and there, but if you told them all about 4chan, Reddit, etc, they'd want them all shut down and their users gassed. They're not gonna go support either side. People need to go outside and realize that the real world isn't as scary as the internet hugboxes have led them to believe, that zoomers are not as bad as you're led to believe. Trust me, if more people stopped trying to one up the slingers of hot takes and just called them out on their issues, we wouldn't have such a thriving outrage industry. And before somebody says "but you trashed them all," let me tell you something: boomers, millennials, zoomers, you name it ---> they're ALL out there enjoying life, right here, right now. I look out my window and see kids playing, kids of all colors, boys and girls. None of them are getting triggered by one another. There's not a smartphone in sight. Their parents are in the distance, none of them are getting triggered, either. I go to block parties, what do I see? People of all generations, ages, races, the works having fun, living it up, talking about sports, their jobs, shit on TV, whatever. None of them are whining about the so called cause celebre of the day. None of them gossip like schoolgirls about lolcows/internet drama and then pretend they're manly enough to call others soy. None of them are talking about (insert group here) bad. They're all living their best lives. These are the people who America, Canada, wherever ought to focus on, but instead, where does our media look? To the self-righteous, arrogant, ignorant, deadbeat losers online: imageboard users, FemaleDatingStrategy "experts," Kiwi Farmers, "radical" podcasts like Redscarepod, basically a glorified peanut gallery of never was and has been goofs who can't get over themselves. These are the folks who will fill out nursing homes in 2070 and all zoomers need to do is remind each and every one:

>You spent your prime years punching down on lolcows and worrying about Gamergate Nazis. Was it worth it?

And all of them will, whether to them or themselves, admit it wasn't. Trash me all you want, anons, but in the end, you know it's true. It always happens. Think about it. Always.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/10(Fri)19:53 No. 24668 ID: 4ff410

>>24666

Here, let me put it like this: you might wonder why I say that it's all a grift; well, look at places like r/collapse, /pol/, /r9k/, Kiwi Farms. These joints are full to the brim with doomers who sincerely believe that we are irreversibly fucked, and yet when you ask them well, why not kill yourselves now and save yourselves the trouble of finding out, do you know what they do? They gasp in shock that you have the audacity to tell them that. But isn't that the logical conclusion of their philosophy? Why do you wanna stick around and end up eating bugs in a pod, or worse? Is it because you don't REALLY believe what you preach and are just hoping it all happens so you can finally feel important like you think you are? That those damn dirty normies will recognize YOU and think YOU had it going on all along? Seriously, go look at r/collapse for example, and look at how much they scream and shout when asked why they don't just end it all now. Oh, well, people will come together, surely, and rebuild civilization, blah blah blah. The same crowd telling you that humans are irredeemably fucked like some sorta Calvinist preacher are the same people telling you that the same people who led us to this point are gonna magically learn what to do and make a post-collapse utopia....see what I mean? They are desperate for attention. They WANT the shit to hit the fan, so their puny little egos can finally get some. That's all "accelerationism" boils down to. If I can't be happy, why should anyone else? It's political puritanism. If shit hits the fan, then I'll get everything - land, power, WOMEN! Little do they know they will be reduced to a footnote about dead civilians in a post-collapse history textbook, if even that. I can see it now, a mountain of severed heads; oh, look, Cindy, there's that neckbeard who kept saying the day of the rope was based. And there's that r/collapse guy who thought that humanity would rebuild and be all about peace and love. Nobody can dispute this. These people are such contrarians, such egotistic nitwits, that they actually want shit to go down simply so they can run around going "I (key word there) told you so!" before getting their heads popped like bubbles by a warlord's rifle. They're THAT desperate for attention, and that leads to my point: they don't REALLY believe this shit. They will stamp and screech about how they TRULY believe and all, but like I said, why are you sticking around for a bug eating, pod dwelling future. What's your endgame? You will own nothing? Then why live? Why stick around?

Because deep down, you know you don't believe any of this shit. It's the same shit that fuels the "not like the other girls" brats - you don't wanna be like THOSE guys. You wanna be UNIQUE and DIFFERENT. It's okay, though. We're all like that. Everybody is identical in their secret unspoken belief that way deep down they are different from everyone else. Look at the "sex work IS real work" crowd. We all know they know deep down it's bullshit, but they don't wanna be like the other girls. You go, girl. Set women's rights back decades. Show 'em boomers that kids these days are so adverse to actual work, they'll rack up STDs and broken homes. YAS KWEEN SLAY. In an ideal world, SeekingArrangement and the like would be just as stigmatized as an imageboard.

People hate themselves so much, they will spend their entire lives being something they're not cut out for just to avoid realizing.....you're not as bad as you think.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/13(Mon)09:58 No. 24677 ID: 7682f3

>>24666
I blame the creation of adolescence for the sake of compulsory schooling.

Adolescence is artificial sociology
"Teen rebellion" is not natural. It's a symptom of mass psychosis

Look back the live of young people before the 19th century and tell me you don't see a difference.
Youth is treated as a disability to be nurtured.
It's considered a liability. Yet, young people are told to "change the world".
Adults complain about government infringing on their freedom, yet they act the same way to their juniors.
They get offended over kids having new technology, dating, new recreational trends, etc.
Kids are not allowed to enjoy anything without adults breathing down their neck about it.
Then adults have the nerve to wonder why kids are so uptight?

Life was better when kids were miniature adults.
There was no psychological turmoil to sort through. You either got shit done or you didn't.
This whole "muh brain development" bullshit is being used to infantilise young people because parents are weak/incompetent.

In the 19th century, 13-16 was emerging adulthood.
In the 2010s, emerging adulthood is now 18-25.

By the next decade or two, 35 may be the new 18.

There's articles addressing the problem of prolonged adolescence.

Of course people will blame this on the young people themselves rather than the economy or the schooling itself.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/13(Mon)18:23 No. 24678 ID: 6a15b7

>>24677

You nailed it, as always, but I want to focus on this line here:

>You either got shit done or you didn't.

Because it summarizes everything we need to go back to. We need to go back to this shit. Did you get a job? No? Then get one. Did you get a significant other? No? Then get one. And so on.

Whenever I see a wingcuck blaming X for Y, I already know they didn't bother getting shit done. I already know their habits. This is what happens when parents don't smack some sense into their crotchspawn. Now I know why teachers are getting more and more spiteful towards parents. Do you know how many stories I've read of kids who are just barely potty trained? Don't know even the most basic fundamentals? Reminds me of a quip Principal Moss made on King of the Hill:

>Why can't Johnny read? Why can't Johnny read? God, that gets old.

And when Johnny can't read at 18? Whose fault is that?

It all starts at home. And it's why parents need to be taught this: you either got shit done or you didn't. Don't whine about how it's "too hard" to have kids or whatever because you were too dumb not to think things over. Don't have kids if you can't make time for them, and guess what, that's ALL the time you've got for eighteen years, so suck it up, buttercup!


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Teenage Girl 22/06/13(Mon)21:05 No. 24680 ID: 218a10

>>24678
>Whenever I see a wingcuck blaming X for Y, I already know they didn't bother getting shit done. I already know their habits. This is what happens when parents don't smack some sense into their crotchspawn. Now I know why teachers are getting more and more spiteful towards parents. Do you know how many stories I've read of kids who are just barely potty trained? Don't know even the most basic fundamentals? Reminds me of a quip Principal Moss made on King of the Hill:

>Why can't Johnny read? Why can't Johnny read? God, that gets old.

>And when Johnny can't read at 18? Whose fault is that?

>It all starts at home. And it's why parents need to be taught this: you either got shit done or you didn't. Don't whine about how it's "too hard" to have kids or whatever because you were too dumb not to think things over. Don't have kids if you can't make time for them, and guess what, that's ALL the time you've got for eighteen years, so suck it up, buttercup!

Not all children's problems bis due to lack of discipline. They always wanna assume that children are always inherently spiteful of personal evolution. They're not.

It's due to lack of engagement from adults.
Also, kids can have problems too that are inherent. Society puts too much investment in academics as a moral compass for children. In the adult world, most people don't know nor care about academics.
Yet, children whom have academic difficulties are accused of being rebellious.
Our society tried to "cute" kids with dyslexia, math deficit etc.

Yet, we have so many academically gifted youth whom have no technical skills.
We have more young people whom can solve trigonometry and algebra equations but don't know how to assemble a book shelf or cook meals. And again, I blame parents and teachers.

Society thinks children are eternal pets whose sole purpose is to learn cute tricks to amuse their elders.
Children are seen as exclusive property of the parents.
Kids whom try to do anything for themselves without their parents are criminalised.
Yet, people complain about kids being lazy.

When I suggest kids have jobs, they call it exploitation.
Yet, subjecing kids to nasty cafeteria food and useless liberal arts and bullying isn't?

We need to liberate kids from this suburban parental contract.

There's a reason why we have the saying "It takes a village to raise a child".

Because parents by themselves are shitty life coaches, especially fathers.

The nuclear family is a modern invention meant exclusively for the suburbs.
People used to grow up in family estates with grandparents, aunt's, uncle's, cousins, etc.

Nowadays, you have to travel out of state to visit relatives. And you don't know what they be doing.

Individualism is a terrible policy for macroeconomics


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Teenage Girl 22/06/22(Wed)18:54 No. 24703 ID: be9b39

>>24680
A lot of parents honestly don't talk to their kids. This is a very big deal now that most kids are stuck home without viable options to spontaneously go out socialize with other kids on the free time. It's not like my 73 year old neighbor who says his WW2 veteran father was emotionally distant, he spent the whole day running around with other kids and had a job at 15 so he learned his own lessons.

I'm 23 and I grew up in a neighborhood with maybe 6 other kids my age (who all largely stayed home), and went to school 12 miles away. If my dad wasn't a worldly guy who talked my ear off every day, I can't imagine how disturbed and emotionally useless I'd be. I feel really bad for these kids I've seen whose fathers literally ignore them and stare down at their phones when they ask them questions about the world. At that point they're only learning about human interaction from fucking youtube.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/22(Wed)20:07 No. 24706 ID: 934aab

>>24703
Because "misopedia is cool" that's why. You ever notice that most of our pop culture portraying family interactions always make kids out to be party-poopers?

Standup comedians love to grill about any piece of fslang or recreational habit kids do

Irony is? Alot of our cultureal misopediacs are often very fond of their own childhood.
However, the idea of another generation of prepubescence existing apart from them is too much for their premature midlife crisis having asses to handle.

People are very indignant about kids playing outside en masse. Anywhere kids congregate, adults get annoyed/uneasy.
So they make up law to ban children.
So the kids have nowhere to go but cyberspace. And then adults accuse kids of being couch potatoes?

It's considered creepy/word to show any form of positive attention to children.

Yet, people will dote on dogs and cats that's not theirs.
People will give free food and toys to dogs and cats. Yet, kids receiving any form of fun in a big package is "spoiling" them.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/22(Wed)20:11 No. 24708 ID: 934aab

>>24703
People complain about government wrestling control away from the parents, but most people see kids as punishments to be put up with.
That's why they put pressure on teachers to keep their kids in school for longer.
What happens is kids end up being closer to the teachers and coaches than the parents.
Parents are more like jackass elders siblings.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/22(Wed)20:23 No. 24709 ID: a58eb4

>>24703

>At that point they're only learning about human interaction from fucking youtube.

This is exactly why we have so much shit these days. Like, why are some young men struggling to form relationships? 'Cause they're scared of girls, and why? Because, as their fathers failed to raise them (as you've pointed out), they spent all their formative years playing video games and fucking off on the internet rather than going out with friends, meeting with other groups of friends containing the opposite sex and doing fun things together, thus learning how to interact like a normal human being. This would usually, hopefully, lead to them meeting a nice young gal who they'd go out with alone, gradually, until they began dating, and probably, eventually, start having sex with this person. It makes sense if you think about it. With video games now, there is so much choice and there are so many games that are made to just play aimlessly, forever (minecraft type stuff) that they'd rather do that than physically spend time with other human beings. They can bullshit with their friends while playing games online, of course, so yet another obstacle to in-person, human interaction. Even video game systems like nintendo and playstation are focused on the online experience, when that was formerly a strictly PC quality. All these activities are designed to make you spend money and waste enormous amounts of time. Time that people used to spend with others, they now spend alone. As a result, their social skills have gone to shit. Every young man is nervous around girls at 11 or 12, the first time he really finds himself interested in them. But they tend to get over that some time in high school, usually. Now, they just never do get over it. That's why you have shit like the Riley Whitelaw tragedy.

>A lot of parents honestly don't talk to their kids.

I remember volunteering once, and I made small talk with a young man, and he told me that his mother always told him to go away and shut up, why? Because she wanted to read her shitty smutty werewolf stories. No matter how much he asked, in some cases pleaded, with her to talk to him, she refused. She would tell her husband how much X body part hurt and all, but when her husband told her that their son was always offering to help, she told him no, YOU should help. She refused to let her son help her, always insisting her husband should help. Son volunteers to do the dishes? No, son, that's your father's job. Son says he can pick up some stuff from the grocery store after school? No, your father can do that when he leaves work. And he told me how he lost out on a chance to know his grandma after his mother spent his whole life calling her mother a bitch, cunt, whatever, only for her to go, after his grandma died, that she wasn't that bad, I never said any of that about her, it's not my fault, blah blah blah. Shit, he had to force her just to buy her late mom flowers (since they couldn't make the funeral).

His father went the whole gauntlet from polite requests to not be so rude to literal rage that could shake the entire room. Still nothing. His father eventually resigned himself to telling his son "just let it go, she'll learn when you've moved out," shit like that, but it only made things worse. The young man told me that ever since he left home, he doesn't speak to them at all, and of course his mother's the dindu nuffin, I was a good mom type. This young man, he could've easily fallen into the trap of being terminally online, but he chose to better himself, why? Because he had a strong support system. He had people looking out for him elsewhere. Sometimes, kids don't even have that, so they find themselves on Tumblr, 4chan, etc....

>This is a very big deal now that most kids are stuck home without viable options to spontaneously go out socialize with other kids on the free time.

Not where I live. Shit, kids here play so much that there was a letter sent to everyone's house asking them to keep their kids inside for a change since they were so noisy. Oh, those NIMBYs. Reminds me of the time I was on a bus and I heard two old fogies talking about how kids don't go outside anymore and I'm like dude, there's tons of kids outside. Hell, I'm even helping with remodeling the park I see 'em play in. Kids aren't as much of a lost cause as jealous nitwits would have you believe. I think a lot of terminally online folks are lowkey jealous because they blew their prime years on faggot shit nobody gives a fuck about, and those kids are actually LIVING as opposed to just existing.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/22(Wed)20:28 No. 24710 ID: a58eb4

>>24680

>Not all children's problems bis due to lack of discipline. They always wanna assume that children are always inherently spiteful of personal evolution. They're not.

Discipline isn't just a word which means hitting a kid. I meant moral discipline, as in teaching kids right from wrong.

>It's due to lack of engagement from adults.

Agreed. I see quite a lot of adults engaging with kids, but I see a lot more who don't. Doesn't help that stranger danger (because we're too lazy to properly tackle the problem of chomos) was the norm for so long.

>Also, kids can have problems too that are inherent. Society puts too much investment in academics as a moral compass for children. In the adult world, most people don't know nor care about academics.

Shit, I had some kid talking my ear off about academic shit, and I asked if he ever talked to his parents 'bout it, and he said no, they don't really care. They want him to get good grades, but fuck knowing about what those grades are for.

>Yet, children whom have academic difficulties are accused of being rebellious. Our society tried to "cute" kids with dyslexia, math deficit etc. Yet, we have so many academically gifted youth whom have no technical skills. We have more young people whom can solve trigonometry and algebra equations but don't know how to assemble a book shelf or cook meals. And again, I blame parents and teachers.

Amen to that. I can testify to this when it comes to the kids I grew up with. A lot of 'em were good kids, but they were clearly behind compared to others. Took 'em awhile to properly adult, as they say.

>Society thinks children are eternal pets whose sole purpose is to learn cute tricks to amuse their elders.

I would consider the sugar baby shit an extension of this.

>Children are seen as exclusive property of the parents. Kids whom try to do anything for themselves without their parents are criminalised. Yet, people complain about kids being lazy.

Case in point, the young man I mentioned. His father wanted him to learn life skills, but since he couldn't be fucked to, he asked his wife to teach him, but she didn't want to, either. I don't know if he thought it was women's work to cook and clean, but apparently he couldn't be bothered to pick up his wife's slack for SOME reason. So, the guy learned all the life skills he needed elsewhere. He's still learning, but aren't we all?

>When I suggest kids have jobs, they call it exploitation. Yet, subjecing kids to nasty cafeteria food and useless liberal arts and bullying isn't?

Because all school is is a glorified daycare. Why do you think so many parents got BTFO when COVID hit? Because now they actually had to PARENT and so many were up shit creek because they had gotten accustomed to the schools doing it. And the school bigwigs, unwilling to lose their cushy jobs and funding, scapegoat the teachers when the parents whine about it. Of course, teachers are not inherently perfect, but I sympathize with those who at least TRY. I knew a couple as a kid myself.

>We need to liberate kids from this suburban parental contract. There's a reason why we have the saying "It takes a village to raise a child". Because parents by themselves are shitty life coaches, especially fathers.

Well, what do you expect when so many kids are just born, so to speak? Not out of love or even an attempt to fix a relationship, but because it just happened? I am willing to bet so many kids would be getting the boot if it was legal to ditch 'em.

>The nuclear family is a modern invention meant exclusively for the suburbs. People used to grow up in family estates with grandparents, aunt's, uncle's, cousins, etc. Nowadays, you have to travel out of state to visit relatives. And you don't know what they be doing. Individualism is a terrible policy for macroeconomics.

And sadly, nobody wants to fix this because it would be a COLLECTIVE effort and "I don't wanna work with X, they support Y!" is the norm these days.

>>24706

>Because "misopedia is cool" that's why. You ever notice that most of our pop culture portraying family interactions always make kids out to be party-poopers?Standup comedians love to grill about any piece of slang or recreational habit kids do; irony is? Alot of our cultureal misopediacs are often very fond of their own childhood. However, the idea of another generation of prepubescence existing apart from them is too much for their premature midlife crisis having asses to handle.

You're preaching banger after banger here, mate. I knew for so long I wasn't the only one who had reached these exact conclusions.

>People are very indignant about kids playing outside en masse. Anywhere kids congregate, adults get annoyed/uneasy. So they make up law to ban children. So the kids have nowhere to go but cyberspace. And then adults accuse kids of being couch potatoes?

And nothing is more hilarious about this than that millennials, the same exact people who KNOW this shit firsthand from their own elders, suddenly accuse the Gen Z kids of being good for nothing couch potatoes...even though they should know better. How the fuck did millennials hate boomers so much that they otherwise sound just like them when addressing Gen Z issues?

>It's considered creepy/word to show any form of positive attention to children. Yet, people will dote on dogs and cats that's not theirs. People will give free food and toys to dogs and cats. Yet, kids receiving any form of fun in a big package is "spoiling" them.

Because pets are basically kids without the handicap of an independent mind. A pet will do what it's told. They don't talk back. It's the sorta shit an old perv will lean on when trying to hit on young girls: women his age won't do the shit he's into.

>>24708

>People complain about government wrestling control away from the parents, but most people see kids as punishments to be put up with. That's why they put pressure on teachers to keep their kids in school for longer. What happens is kids end up being closer to the teachers and coaches than the parents. Parents are more like jackass elders siblings.

Nailed it. I wish more people would say this openly instead of just posting it on obscure websites.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/22(Wed)20:50 No. 24715 ID: 934aab

>>>24709
>This is exactly why we have so much shit these days. Like, why are some young men struggling to form relationships? 'Cause they're scared of girls, and why? Because, as their fathers failed to raise them (as you've pointed out), they spent all their formative years playing video games and fucking off on the internet rather than going out with friends, meeting with other groups of friends containing the opposite sex and doing fun things together, thus learning how to interact like a normal human being. This would usually, hopefully, lead to them meeting a nice young gal who they'd go out with alone, gradually, until they began dating, and probably, eventually, start having sex with this person. It makes sense if you think about it. With video games now, there is so much choice and there are so many games that are made to just play aimlessly, forever (minecraft type stuff) that they'd rather do that than physically spend time with other human beings. They can bullshit with their friends while playing games online, of course, so yet another obstacle to in-person, human interaction. Even video game systems like nintendo and playstation are focused on the online experience, when that was formerly a strictly PC quality. All these activities are designed to make you spend money and waste enormous amounts of time. Time that people used to spend with others, they now spend alone. As a result, their social skills have gone to shit. Every young man is nervous around girls at 11 or 12, the first time he really finds himself interested in them. But they tend to get over that some time in high school, usually. Now, they just never do get over it. That's why you have shit like the Riley Whitelaw tragedy.

Why does society always accuse young men of having problems?
I get young men have social anxiety, but so do young women, yet nobody is hypercritical of the flaws and vices of young women as much.
In fact, girls are encouraged to hole up somewhere.
Boys are told to be extroverted. Male introversion is always criminalized. People assume that all incels, sociopaths, rapists etc are because of male introversion.
And why are video games always used as the diagnosis of all male problems?

Have you ever considered the real reason why you gmen are struggling is because of the covert misandrist spirit in society?
Boys are always defined by their flaws and mistakes. They're told they're dumb savages with no natural talents while girls are praised and sympathized for the slightest effort.

Young women are also socially disaffected as seeing so many waste time on Instagram posting selfies and motivational quotes.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/22(Wed)21:02 No. 24716 ID: a58eb4

>>24715

>Why does society always accuse young men of having problems?

It was an example of the point I was making, anon. I said 'some young men,' too. Don't think I am a misandrist. We are all broken in our own way, and I highlight how I feel society has broken us.

>I get young men have social anxiety, but so do young women, yet nobody is hypercritical of the flaws and vices of young women as much.

You'd be quite surprised, anon. Quite surprised indeed. Trust me, they're just as critical.

>In fact, girls are encouraged to hole up somewhere.
Boys are told to be extroverted. Male introversion is always criminalized. People assume that all incels, sociopaths, rapists etc are because of male introversion.
And why are video games always used as the diagnosis of all male problems?

Preaching to the choir.

>Have you ever considered the real reason why you gmen are struggling is because of the covert misandrist spirit in society?

You mean performative misandry. They have to do whatever they can to LOOK like they're combating the problem, no matter how asinine they do so. The vast majority of girls/women would never buy into the self-defeating radfem/lesbian separatist/PENIS HAVER BAD shit. Just like the vast majority of boys/men don't buy into utter cope like The Wall/AWALT.

>Boys are always defined by their flaws and mistakes. They're told they're dumb savages with no natural talents while girls are praised and sympathized for the slightest effort.

Girls are always defined by them too, anon. We all are. There's no gender-based monolith out there. It's all dependant on where you are in life. You're gonna meet people who always define boys by that metric, you're gonna meet people who always define girls by the same. Shit, you'll find misanthropes who define BOTH by it, always. You usually post based and truthpilled posts on here, but I have to disagree with you here. If you or anyone thinks boys/girls are at some sorta adversarial relationship, it's sadly mistaken. I've never met a boy or girl who thinks like this. Funny how it's always online hearsay.

>Young women are also socially disaffected as seeing so many waste time on Instagram posting selfies and motivational quotes.

"So many"? Really? Because the vast majority of young women I've met and talked with couldn't care less. Shit, you wouldn't believe how many told me they don't even use social media, period. One said she only had Facebook 'cause her grandparents were worryworts.

Again, young women are not a hivemind. Nor are young men. They are all their own individual selves with their own opinions, thoughts and beliefs.

>But you trash all millennials!

I do so to bust balls, and to point out the hypocrisy in a lot of the terminally online ones, but I've met plenty of good, decent millennials out there. And boomers. And zoomers. And so on. At the end of the day, I judge folks by the content of their character. I don't buy into the tragic irony of people trashing the media's need for a scapegoat just to push their own.

If you believe all X = Y, you are mindfucked and are in dire need of a colonostickectomy. A young person hiding their creativity and trying to be "serious" so they can make it through life will get a huge amount of value from going out and volunteering for a bit. Get to know your fellow man, woman, whatever. You have to forgive them for believing the viewpoint for a few years and then you have to forgive them for rejecting it for a few. In the end, they'll probably come to a happy medium, but they'll always be gratefull for getting that damned uncomfortable thing out of their butt.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/22(Wed)21:20 No. 24718 ID: 934aab

>>24716
Yea I guess you're right. I was goin into "millennial mode".

But I wish people would just shut the fuck up and have a nice family night out like in the old day when we had drive in theaters.

I'm a millennial myself and I don't get the whole zoomerphobia thing. Like dude, all the "cringe" made by Zoomers was done by millennials.
I remember when "millennial" was a slur back 2006-2014.
It's just that now, thabks to Zoomers coming in to their own, the spotlight was taken of my Generation "WHY?!!!" that they (Generation "WHY?!!") is no longer "ashamed" of themselves.

But most importantly, all this culture war nonsense is just because people are addicted to indignation. Alot of the "discrimination" that both the left and right cry about is just seeing differing opinions that they don't like.

I was talking a boomer neighbor of mine and I said that news networks should air more science documentaries and arts&crafts, and maybe people would be more in proper perspective.

He agreed.
He told me when he was growing up, media was mostly family-oriented and there was only three TV channels and they signed off at 9pm.
That all changed by the late 70s with the promotion of violence and 24-hours news cycle.

I have alot of boomer friends. And granted they don't all like the younger generations culture, they don't hate them.
Same for alot of the millennials and Zoomers. Alot of them don't really hate boomers either.

I guess that's why I romanticise intergenerational relationships.
And I wish there was a different approach to romantic relationships other than love at first sight.
I wish there was amore sibling-like approach.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/23(Thu)02:20 No. 24723 ID: 934aab

>>24710
>Because pets are basically kids without the handicap of an independent mind. A pet will do what it's told. They don't talk back. It's the sorta shit an old perv will lean on when trying to hit on young girls: women his age won't do the shit he's into.

That's why puppy Mills are a thing. Also, people don't really love dogs. They love the docility.
Why do you think cats are ok to bad-mouth but not dogs?

Also, younger women aren't really as docile as you think.
They're desperate to show off their worldliness is all.
Old pervs fall for the myth of "youth is innocence".

In fact, female youth is used as the general portrait of womanhood, leaving the old maids to die off in oblivion.

Whenever men talk about women, they usually refer to females 12-40.
Rarely do they consciously acknowledge women over 40.


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Teenage Girl 22/06/23(Thu)04:59 No. 24724 ID: 1e9386

>>24723

>Also, younger women aren't really as docile as you think.They're desperate to show off their worldliness is all.

I never said they were docile. I said you couldn't generalize them all as X. As I said in another post:

>Girls are always defined by them too, anon. We all are. There's no gender-based monolith out there. It's all dependant on where you are in life. You're gonna meet people who always define boys by that metric, you're gonna meet people who always define girls by the same. Shit, you'll find misanthropes who define BOTH by it, always.

Of course you're gonna meet girls who are desperate to make a name for themselves. That's just the human condition. But not all of them are. Just like not all guys are braindead coomers. We just have to make sure we don't paint with too broad a brush, that's all.

>>24718

>Yea I guess you're right. I was goin into "millennial mode". But I wish people would just shut the fuck up and have a nice family night out like in the old day when we had drive in theaters.

I do, too. That's sorta why I started posting on here, 8kun's /doomer/ board, etc. It's just a shame that so many folks are willing to throw away their prime years to "own" folks they will never, ever meet.

>I'm a millennial myself and I don't get the whole zoomerphobia thing. Like dude, all the "cringe" made by Zoomers was done by millennials.

Because it's all cope. They can't handle aging. Strip away the ideological melodrama and it's obvious. It's why I always just call 'em out as the boomerlennials they are. I don't stick to wingcuck nonsense unless I just want to poke a little more specific fun.

>I remember when "millennial" was a slur back 2006-2014. It's just that now, thabks to Zoomers coming in to their own, the spotlight was taken of my Generation "WHY?!!!" that they (Generation "WHY?!!") is no longer "ashamed" of themselves.

I remember those days too. Just like I remember "boomerphobia" being the in thing until 2020.

>But most importantly, all this culture war nonsense is just because people are addicted to indignation. Alot of the "discrimination" that both the left and right cry about is just seeing differing opinions that they don't like.

Exactly. And they come up with all sorts of convuluted excuses, too. Like how drag queen story hour = bad, but yet every single rightoid forum ultimately devolves into cunnyposting.

>I was talking a boomer neighbor of mine and I said that news networks should air more science documentaries and arts&crafts, and maybe people would be more in proper perspective. He agreed. He told me when he was growing up, media was mostly family-oriented and there was only three TV channels and they signed off at 9pm. That all changed by the late 70s with the promotion of violence and 24-hours news cycle.

And that's exactly why I keep mentioning the media mindfucking people. "Incels" and "SJWs" are figments of grifters' imaginations. "Femcels" too. Now that Muslims are passe, they've gone onto Russians. Now don't get me wrong, the invasion of Ukraine is illegitimate, and Crimea is rightful Ukrainian clay, BUT we're seeing a lot of Russophobia being amplified. The Russian people are not to blame here. Just their government. Unless, if you want to open up THAT can of worms, we can blame Americans, Brits, French and Israelis for over a hundred years of sodomizing the Middle East....

>I have alot of boomer friends. And granted they don't all like the younger generations culture, they don't hate them. Same for alot of the millennials and Zoomers. Alot of them don't really hate boomers either.

I have a lot of friends of all races, genders, religions, generations, you name it, and they're all pretty chill folks just trying to get by in life. Never once have any of them ever said shit about me or anyone else due to X or Y. It's always shooting the shit about sports, movies, TV, music, whatever. I have never met anyone whining about Chads, microaggressions, whatever.

>I guess that's why I romanticise intergenerational relationships.
And I wish there was a different approach to romantic relationships other than love at first sight. I wish there was amore sibling-like approach.

And we could have that if we told the grifters to fuck off en masse, if we told the media to stop glorifying them...



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