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Religious significance of the plague Anonymous 20/11/04(Wed)08:23 No. 14624 ID: 7cb4c3

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So I found a strange bit of information combing through wikipedia that's kind of startling. During the plague there were three planets in the sky that were considered strange or new, like the ones we have now.

>The most authoritative contemporary account is found in a report from the medical faculty in Paris to Philip VI of France. It blamed the heavens, in the form of a conjunction of three planets in 1345 that caused a "great pestilence in the air" (miasma theory).[43]

If you guys look in the morning you can see the most obvious one, the morning star which is exceptionally bright. There's also the evening star that usually has another one close by it but is still the brightest at that time. There's even one in between the two that has an orange hue if I remember correctly. Of course there's also the new plague, the coronavirus.

What are the chances that the exact same thing would be happening in the sky during both plagues? The 1300's were also around when Joan of Arc appeared IIRC. It's an exceptional bit of coincidence if it's just that, I think this proves that historically God was punishing the region and is doing so again to us and the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death

Anonymous 20/11/04(Wed)12:02 No. 14625 ID: 70f1b0

There's nothing new or strange about planetary movements. Take this to /x/.

Anonymous 20/11/05(Thu)08:02 No. 14627 ID: 7cb4c3

>>14625
I don't understand how people can deny the morning star with a straight face like it has always been there

Anonymous 20/11/08(Sun)13:47 No. 14629 ID: 70f1b0

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>>14627
>the morning star
I'm assuming you're referring to Venus, the planet? It's been there as long as the Earth has been there, which is around 4.5 billion years. No, it can't always be seen; like when it's too close to the Sun (the direct sunlight will drown out the light reflected by Venus) behind it, or in front of it (in which case a tiny "eclipse" happens, pic related). Also, Venus takes ~225 Earth days to make a complete trip around the sun, which is around 40% faster compared to Earth's ~365 days, which means they're out of sync, so the best time of year to see Venus will change each year. However, their orbits are constant enough that their positions can be accurately calculated at least several thousands of years to the future or the past, so if you wanted to find out the best time of year to see Venus, Mars or Jupiter, whether in 2782 or during the plague, I'm sure there's a tool online that will let you do so.

Anonymous 20/11/08(Sun)13:52 No. 14630 ID: 70f1b0

Oh, I was meant to attach a photo of a transit of Venus, but it is too large. I stand by my original image choice.

Anonymous 20/11/10(Tue)05:03 No. 14631 ID: 7cb4c3

>>14629
You're wrong though, I'm fucking thirty years old and it was never there

My fucking grandma was amazed at how bright the middle one was, she hasn't even seen the fucking morning star yet, she's 70.

Science has you all by the fucking spine, you're a bunch of tools

Anonymous 20/11/11(Wed)13:50 No. 14632 ID: 70f1b0

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>>14631
>You're wrong though, because I'm 30 and my grandma is 70
Well, shit. There goes my logic. I tip my fedora to you.

love to learn Lussorybest 20/11/11(Wed)22:55 No. 14633 ID: d4c660

Teach me about hacking I wanna learn from you guys if your guys can teach me I will be happy to learn

Anonymous 20/11/12(Thu)07:07 No. 14634 ID: 7cb4c3

>>14632
Well thanks for the rebuff using such clear logic, we have all learned today

>>14633
Just download one of the shitty programs

Anonymous 20/11/14(Sat)01:11 No. 14635 ID: 857fa9

>>14632
>no real world purpose
I can count in base 12, the purpose being because I'm better than you.

Anonymous 20/11/15(Sun)06:50 No. 14636 ID: 88b6e9

Reminds me of a bit from a novel set in the 1600's. A dude is commenting that there was a plague in England and it must be because of a passing comet. The other guy says there was a comet years before, but no plague. First guy counters that there was an outbreak of smallpox in Ireland that very same year. To which the second guy says there is an outbreak of smallpox in Ireland EVERY YEAR.

Moral of the story is: humans have been seeing conspiracy in coincidence since time immemorial, and they've always been fucking retards for it.

Anonymous 20/11/15(Sun)21:26 No. 14637 ID: 7cb4c3

>>14636
Pardon me for not citing fiction

Meanwhile, in real life, two plagues and the same constellations mysteriously form

Anonymous 20/11/16(Mon)01:03 No. 14638 ID: b1eb99

>>14635
>Newfag can't hex.

Anonymous 20/11/16(Mon)07:34 No. 14639 ID: 06b740

>>14637
There is absolutely nothing "mysterious" about either the formation of plagues or the motion of planets. The latter is, in fact, almost completely mathematically determined for centuries into the future. You can literally calculate where planets are going to be in the sky, where and when solar eclipses will happen, for the next thousand years if you're curious.

But in case you're still not convinced, consider the following: constellations and planets don't appear the same in the northern and southern hemisphere. So either the connection between stars and COVID is completely fucking nonsense, or you somehow think it only affected one half of the planet.

Anonymous 20/11/20(Fri)05:18 No. 14642 ID: 7cb4c3

>>14639
Well shit, guess I was wrong

but still go outside

Anonymous 21/01/25(Mon)12:09 No. 14680 ID: d3a904

>>14639
Planets actually do appear *for the most part* the same in the northern and southern hemispheres, except for being 'upside down'- i.e., in the southern hemisphere the planets appear to the north instead of to the south, and their 'left-r ight' orientation is switched; their east-west orientation is NOT, and they are visible during the same times of day in both hemispheres.

Anonymous 23/08/05(Sat)20:09 No. 15326 ID: a29b11

This reeks of Christian right wing shamanism.

"God is punishing us because we don pray hard enough."

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