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>>4952

C

You learn C and you can conquer the world.

Depends. What are you going to do as a programmer? Are goin to be a professional or hobbyist?

C is a quality start. Python or ruby is a quicktstart still not bad at all.

Also: https://7chan.org/pr/res/4156.html

https://7chan.org/pr/res/4669.html

>>4954
I'm going to attend college for computer science/software engineering here in about a year, but it's going to be something I enjoy doing, not some horrible desk job that I despise. Really, I'm trying to get into object-oriented, high-functioning langjuages.

>>4959
Ask college what languages they are going to teach you.

>>4977

/thread

No self-taught first language or you're gonna regret it later. Personal experience.

>>4978
I taught myself my first language (as well as all the others) and didn't regret it.
What now?

>>4977
I mean it. Ask them and tell us.

>>4953
Kind of agree with this.

C is up there with the best and most useful languages to learn, but some aspects will be difficult to someone with no background in programming. Maybe try Java or Python first.

C. I am no expert but it was my introduction to programming and you can't go wrong with it. You don't want something too boring like python as you want something that will keep your interest and I feel like C accomplishes that well while still being easy to learn

HTML is the best way to start

>>4977
C and Java

That's what they're gonna tell them and I just said it in less characters than you.

Processing is a fun way to learn Java.

https://processing.org/

Khan Academy has a JavaScript version with plenty of tutorials. JS is a shitty language but it'll probably help you get some of the basics.

lua with love2d framework

>>4952
Learn C & Java
Start of with Java and as soon as you can write clean code start with learning C.

>>4959
English is a good start

HTML

Python (Django)

I personally started from Java. However python seems like the best one to go for because it'll teach you good programming habbits such as indentations. So i'd personally recommend either java or py.

start with assembly if you want a brain hemerage.

start with python or any .NET langauge

i would start with c if you're not totally retarded

>>4952
Python.

I started to learn programming from Pascal and Basic.
When I studied in university I learned C++. It is perfect language, but not for newbie.
After studying Python I understood that for newbie is better to start from Python. It has many libraries for any tasks and you can make practical things.
You just import library and use needed function.
Also Python supports OOP, Functional and procedure programming.
-----quick start-----
official site python.org
Byte of Python
Zed Shaw
----more advanced books---
Dive in Python
Mark Lutz Learning Python
Sedgewick

FWIW, Pascal is still around. I'd like to recommend it as a starting langauge, but I don't think there are many good learning resources for it any more.

www.freepascal.org if you're feeling nostalgic.

Python seems to be the current "meta" starter language, but there's plenty of others.

C will always be useful and powerful, but unless you get good with it it's useless.

If you want to program professionally you should probably go with Python, Ruby, or Java, but if you want to learn programming for fun I recommend you branch out and look at other languages. Python or Tcl are the starters I suggest.

Also if you're going to take a course, learn whatever language the course is in.

Learn assembly language first, any processor will do. A RISC machine like ARM probably will be easier than anything from Intel. Once you can do something useful with that you will be able to master any other language in a fraction of the time because you will understand what is going on under the hood. You will learn several languages during your career.

>>4953
>>5284
Don't do this. Learn something easy and high-level (like Python) first, to get a grasp of basic programming concepts, then the low-level stuff will come naturally if you want it to. Anyone that tells you Asm/C as a first programming language will let you rule the world is setting you up to fail.

C is a brilliant language, but if you already know a higher-level language it will be much easier. Don't touch assembler unless you have **good** C knowledge and need the performance/capabilities it provides.

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Learn C++ using the Qt framework.
In other words, learn Qt first.
Qt is a full stack with every library you need, and will give you access to higher programming concepts when you will eventually need them.
Python or Javascript as a first language is a horrible idea; Anything that is dynamically typed will do more to confuse a programmer in the long run.
And anything without pointers or enumerators is a shit language to begin with.

>>5292
>>4986
>>5216
You should never, ever, take programming advice from someone who recommends python as a first programming language. Why? Well for one, this advice right here is just bizarre:

>>5220
>it teaches programming concepts such as indentations
My god; WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD CHOOSE PYTHON TO TEACH SOMEONE ABOUT ...
indentation?
First off, the idea that you would choose a language to teach indentation is... to say the least, odd.
The only thing you need to know about indentation is this:
1. Indentations are 8 characters wide. If you meet someone who swears by 2 indentations, they are a bad programmer.
2. Indentations are tabs, not spaces.
3. If you are complaining about having run out of room to code, because your indentations are too large, you should consider retroactively aborting your code, or yourself, because you have screwed up.
4. Thus, while learning, your code should not go past 3 indentations as a matter of principle. When that habit is firmly in place, then 5 indentations becomes the real limit.

And second off, I suspect what he really meant by indentation, was the concept of scope...
Which again, why you would choose python to teach about scope, is bizarre. Any language lacking pointers, is the last thing youd want to use.


Go with Qt if you want to learn to program.

>>5306
Do you have any recommendation for learning Qt? Any resources?

If you want to become a programmer start with C. But if you want to develop a project, better to consult developers. For example, https://appinventiv.com/ar-vr-app-development/ are too good at it.

HTML. Start with the basics.

Python and a Scheme (Guile, Chicken).

>>5362
HTML is not a programming language, it is a markup language. That's not answering OP's question.

>>5305
I'd probably recommend learning Qt with CommonQt over C++.

Well, I can say that I have already worked with one company that provides software development services. If you are interested, here is a link to their website https://lampalampa.net/en/ . I needed help creating an application for my business on android and these guys helped me a lot. So take a look.

Depends from your skills. For example, you can start from Python. I want to create some software so I will contact to specialsits. I have plan to create quality assurance tool like here https://fortegrp.com/11-popular-software-testing-tools/

>>4952
C, its simple and close to the metal. Newbies can comprehend it while learning how the computer works, and its basically the swiss army knife of programming languages so it will be useful long after you learn other more specialized languages. Most modern programming languages take heavy inspiration from C so you will have a headstart when you decide to learn some more languages

Tsundere cat (☆▽☆)

I would say Java. Perfect middle ground between the convoluted nature of C/C++ and the intellectual laziness encouraged by something like Python.

Java cause I like minecwaft

>>4952
Python, because it's easy and general purpose. Alternatives are Javascript because you can learn it on Khan Academy and it's really basic, and C, which is a lot more difficult than the previous two, but is the ancestor of many languages, also it runs fast.
First time posting on 7chan, this place seems nice! The other more popular chans are dying :(

>>5261
You can't be serious! The whole Pascal family of languages is dead, buried and obituaried. We're not seeing anyone making any sort of mention of oberon or anything close.

For what purposes do you need it? Do you want to learn for yourself - for interest, to get a job, or do you have a specific desire, for example, to develop an application or a game? For the last point, I know that the guys https://program-ace.com/expertise/virtual-reality/ use programming languages ​​such as C #, C ++, Java, Kotlin.

Let's make it clear. What do oyu to learn programming language for? Set your goal first.
After that we can recommend you something interesting. Anyway as I see people above used to advice learning virtual reality development. Yeah, that's a good option. Moreover that's truly prospective option. Here is my own recommendation:
1) Java, Python, c++
2) VR development (you also may get more info at https://www.eyeengage.com/ ) because those guys are one of the best in their area.

I think the main problem is that people dont actually understand the technology properly. Everyone talks c++ and the usual but until we get more people into it then its going to be harder to keep growing the apps. I agree that they should consider vr, if they looked into it properly (https://www.eyeengage.com/what-is-virtual-reality/) then they might consider it more than just a fad. Some companies are throwing billions of $ at it still so why not

c or python

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Learn a higher-level language that you can get your ideas out in, and then just hire one of these uncreative autists to optimize it for you.

c++ if u want to dive deep or go for python

Lisp and C. The order doesn't matter, just make sure they're the first two you use.

Lisp teaches you how programing languages treat syntax and semantics, C teaches you how programming languages treat resource managment.

Python of course

>>4952
Hare

Hoon

You'll meet smart people. Like if you'd learned Lisp 40 years ago.

c

lisp, no arguments given just a trust me bro statement

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choose wisely, anon..

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I hate black people

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>>5710

PYTHON OBV

UNLESS INSTEAD OF LEARNING TO WIELD AND UNDERSTANDING THE POWER YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH OPTIMIZATION ALREADY WHICH WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC USE CASE YOU WANT TO APPLY IT TO. THEN C IG, BUT START WITH PYTHON AND YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINT.