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Anonymous 25/10/30(Thu)20:37 No. 16928 [Reply]
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Fascism is only, and always, an aesthetic.

It dresses itself in whatever the prevailing cultural/governance attire is at hand, and rapidly debases both. Then, in a frenzy of lust, they parade stark naked with only a cloak of simple-minded, and duly outmoded, chieftain "civics" and crowns wrought of a facsimile of the culture from which they spawned, certainly kitsch is much to frivolous, and kind, a term. Their buffoonish gait rendered all the more absurd as they struggle to maintain a coherent bearing, what with those beautiful crowns constantly slipping over their eyes and all... and all the while, their divinely ornated leader drones on, and beckons them to their graves-- and they bleat in joyous obedience (which is better than bliss, mind you).




Anonymous 22/06/25(Sat)04:41 No. 14962 [Reply]
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rarely come here but I thought I would post a thought that has been on my mind for awhile and see what you think. I encourage the rashest thoughts and critiques on it as possible. In fact, disproving it would make me happy.

The following is metaphoric for pretty much any dualistic pair. Black and white, good and bad, left-brained (rational) and right-brained (artistic and creative), etc.

The series goes as follows:
1) Without angels, devils have no motivation.
2) Without devils, angels have no motivation.
3) Motivation is the driving force for change and for life.
4) Given time, a thing will change.
5) There will never exist only angels.
6) There will never exist only devils.

So in other words, according to the idea, the extremities of dualism aren't possible. Also, we all have a little good and bad in all of us, and not everyone can be left-brained (fully rational). It's just a matter of to what degree you are of both respectively. Thats why photons are ejected from black holes (not fully black).

If this sounds like mental illness, just say so. The more honesty I get on this, the more it would potentially help me combat my own mental illness.
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The+Red+Barron 22/06/26(Sun)11:33 No. 14970

God says in the Bible that at some point all knees will bow, I'm paraphrasing here but he says that everyone will be good basically, eventually. Revelations implies that evil things will be destroyed entirely for a new planet and sky--universe, basically

I do think eventually everything will be good, at least temporarily. He set this dichotomy up between evil and good for His own entertainment, it stands that He may do so again


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Anonymous 22/06/26(Sun)17:31 No. 14974

>>14970
>>14970
Why does God want to be worshipped?
What if I don't want to live forever?
Am I doomed for hell for saying God will never understand us (the dualistic right-brained free-thinking, the opposite of the rational being God is for creating the universe) and that everyone's individual life is an experiment?


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The+Red+Barron 22/07/20(Wed)08:47 No. 15009

>>14974
>worship
He never really says He does, Biblically. It's actually something people do to try and get his attention basically. At one point when He was destroying Israel in the Old Testament He even said "I tire of burnt offerings," burnt offerings were something He ordained to honor Him properly. I imagine the rules for worship were more to remove sin from it, not because He even truly cares for it. I do believe He rewards it, who wouldn't?

>don't want to live
Your own insanity doesn't really matter, life is something everyone wants. You have your reasons for hating your current situation; not life, that's delusion

>doomed
Several key prophets have pointed out the need for theoretical study, and Jesus says all things spoken other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven




Anonymous 21/03/31(Wed)03:27 No. 14719 [Reply]
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Does anyone talk about how neolib education is largely a racquet and way for owners and managers to screen out stupid and lazy applicants?


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Anonymous 25/04/17(Thu)21:14 No. 16370

>>16369
Bro, you're typing like a retard yourself.


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Anonymous 25/09/11(Thu)01:45 No. 16851

>>16369
>Blaming the kneegrow and wetbacks can only go so far, when little zoomzoom is so fucking retarded. He literally cant write with a pen cant read a book because 70% of the page is not filled with ADs/banners/hyperlinks. Their spelling/grammar/punctuation etc etc is horrific because of autocorrect and only using a smartphone, to add to that they cant even use a fucking keyboard. They type like boomers looking at the keys and only using two fingers.
Thanks to chat-GPT zoomzooms are just as bad as the Chinese and Indians now using for all classwork. As well as figuring out ways to use it during tests&exams.


That’s funny because fifteen to twenty years ago they said the same thing about millennials when Google came out.

>I feel pity for the zoomzooms I really do they have been bred&raised to be legit mentally retarded lacking all critical thinking and logic skills completely unable to think not only outside the box but unable to complete basic tasks.


Do you have evidence beyond generational stereotypes or are you just the typical aging millennial who is butthurt about not being the culturally relevant one?

If zoomers areas bad as you say then your generation is just as bad if not more so.


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Anonymous 25/10/17(Fri)19:55 No. 16916

>>14719

No
By the way your question answers it's self

Wow, I thought this board would be full of actual intelligent people
Fuck this I'm back of to /b, even the rejects from niggatits are smart than this when they are pretending to be idiots




Anonymous 25/10/13(Mon)18:34 No. 16900 [Reply]
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Hello /phi/, I'm formerly natsoc, still red-pilled, and I'm also a therapist. I want to hear your thoughts on therapy and how we could improve it for you. You can do that in my survey:

https://tarleton.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0dixWdcJPSTKGua

^I know the link looks suspicious, but I'm not phishing. Let me know if there's anything I can do to prove that. Qualtrics is the survey service and Tarleton is my school.

As for this thread: Have you been in therapy? What was it like? I have some great memories on boards like this and I hope you're making some good memories here too.


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Anonymous 25/10/15(Wed)00:28 No. 16911

>>16906
>following a client indefinitely at the expense of your own self-care
That's what each therapist determines their comfort with. What boundaries you set is up to you. Some therapists who counsel suicidal clients give those clients their personal phone and say they can call them any time of the day or night, if their deescalation plan isn't working.
Ultimately, my aim is to be 100% attuned to a client for the 50 minutes we are together. I can take care of my needs once I'm off the clock.
>Sounds noble, I'm just wondering if it's actually how it goes and whether or not it's feasible
Much like enlightenment, deep empathy and unconditional positive regard is something to strive for. Its feasibility is always in question. How do we know if we've reached it?
>a person who has not yet given their own self proper care (because they just don't have it inside them) cannot really deeply care about someone else who is actually in much deeper shit and requires even more care, because it's just mechanically impossible
Yeah. A therapist has to get their own unfinished business in check first. That doesn't mean they have to resolve all of their issues, but they should not let that get in the way of their work with clients.
>Having went there for themselves, in their own case etc.
There are near death experiences, paranormal or spiritual experiences, and psychedelic experiences, all of which can produce a similar effect. Even with those, though, they don't lead to a perfect understanding of what a client is going through.
>And if the therapist doesn't deeply care, we'll obviously then there's no warmth and no deep empathy there anyway, even if they may pose as if they are there with them and keeping them company or holding their hand. It would be all just theatrics, even with the best of intentions in the conscious mind of the therapist.
That's why the third pillar is congruence (authenticity), next to empathy and unconditional positive regard. That's in the humanistic school anyway.
>You follow me, it's just, some of these things sound good, but our mechanically impossible.
True, I cannot be you or have a perfect understanding of you. It's mechanically impossible, so why does deep human connection feel so powerful?


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Anonymous 25/10/15(Wed)01:18 No. 16912

>How do we know if we've reached it?
Not something that's going to be simply measured and quantified. And it's not on or off either. But I'm just saying that not every client not every therapist is going to have the ability and the depth for. And that's a problem with let's call them the big clients.

>why does deep human connection feel so powerful?
Well, if it feels that way, it probably is, but my point wasn't that that's impossible, the point was that some people go into deep shit and may not be able to find their way out, but in order to help someone like that, you need to go into equally deep shit within yourself and just like very few go there, so very few clients go there and so very few therapists go there either, I would argue even less. Someone like jung was perhaps an exception.

All I'm saying is that even if you genuinely want to be there for that client there for 55 minutes or whatever, just because you want to, doesn't mean you can, and in particular you cannot when the client is in the kind of shit that you have neither heard of nor ever imagined. And you may not be even capable of imagining it or relating to it, because where you are and where the client is is just so far far apart.

And another point I was making is that if you are comfortable in this moment, you won't go into a very uncomfortable place just because you think you care about the client. Unless you already live in that place. And have already integrated that place. I don't know, I don't want to repeat myself, but yeah, good intentions here are not necessarily enough.


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Anonymous 25/10/16(Thu)20:16 No. 16915

>>16912
>just because you want to, doesn't mean you can
>where you are and where the client is is just so far far apart
Therein lies the question of if someone can ever truly get what you're feeling. There are, for sure, different depths of empathy and levels of connection. But I think it can take different forms, and even low levels can have power. A 5-year-old kid might not know what you're going through and decide to give you a rock he found. A cashier might smile at you and you might feel a connection, even if the only words she said to you were your total.
>And another point I was making is that if you are comfortable in this moment, you won't go into a very uncomfortable place just because you think you care about the client. Unless you already live in that place. And have already integrated that place.
>but yeah, good intentions here are not necessarily enough
How good, or should I say how responsible, are these intentions if the therapist prioritizes their own comfort over the discomfort of entering that space with the client?
Integration is important for sure. You mentioned Jung... shadow work has done a lot for me.




Distributism Anonymous 25/08/30(Sat)07:51 No. 16835 [Reply]
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What are the thoughts on distributism here? Distributism is the ideology of decentralizing the means of production. Originally it was "3 acres and a cow" but has since evolved into "3d printers and a house"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism




There is no afterlife Anonymous 25/04/19(Sat)10:47 No. 16374 [Reply]
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The facts are simple after you see all the evidence afterlife can not exist after brain death there is nothing.

Everything else is word games.
1) Memories and personality are destroyed after the brain gets damaged
2) This happens from injuries to the brain or old age (alzheimer's)
3) Therefore destroying the brain destroys your mind.

Anyone who disagrees with this line of reasoning has no basis to conclude that fire exists or will happen after you light up wood or oil.
<Dude that is a logical fallacy correlation is not causation!

Yet you committed the argumentum ad logicam logical fallacy (nice self contradiction) yourself right now and you still accept that fire exists and will burn flammable things(nice self contradiction/schizophrenia).


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Dr. Serizawa 25/07/23(Wed)09:32 No. 16682

>>16414
Super insane godzilla gods can only tell the truth either because they are dinosaurs.

They don't live in an alternate dimension of death, it's that the moon actually turned blood red, yes it physically changed color it's not just that you went insane and it looked like the stars fell and everything turned black because your eyes are deceived because you are the living dead.

(It's better to get beheaded than choke to death because my dick untwisted)


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Anonymous 25/08/10(Sun)17:42 No. 16701

have you read the documents regarding project stargate? we know some sort of astral projection is possible, therefore a decent argument for a definitive soulful existence can be made and from there several arguments can be made


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Anonymous 25/08/10(Sun)17:44 No. 16702

>>16395
what about computers?




Anonymous 25/08/10(Sun)17:20 No. 16699 [Reply]
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Now comes the time of the ringing bell, we must fight for anarchy to attain our peace.
My friends come forth and look to your left and right, see how your world burns in their flames?
You are horrified, are you not?
You are angry, are you not?
Your spirits have been crushed over and over, they destroy and take and have been doing as such for years.
Do you want to fight back?
I certainly do.


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Anonymous 25/08/10(Sun)17:21 No. 16700

I leave with you a visage I do know well, the seal of my home state.




Heroic Doooze Anonymous 22/03/11(Fri)19:07 No. 14912 [Reply]
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Anonymous 25/03/30(Sun)20:48 No. 16282

>>16280
Big if true


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Anonymous 25/04/07(Mon)03:20 No. 16307

>>16280
More like booze


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Anonymous 25/07/15(Tue)01:11 No. 16669

>>16280
More like alcohol abuse




Anonymous 25/04/23(Wed)05:08 No. 16415 [Reply]
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Should a man strive to be an embodiment of idealized masculinity?


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Anonymous 25/06/08(Sun)07:22 No. 16612

>>16441
Stoicism is just the pretentious male version of "empathy".

Also, glorification of suffering is shallow.
I notice that people who romanticise suffering often are ignorant of real life people going through problems

They think life is exactly like action adventure movies


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Anonymous 25/06/08(Sun)07:25 No. 16613

>>16441
>the stoics put heavy focus on dedication, honest hard work, mastery of pleasure and pain, moderation, balance, stability, honorable conduct etc. So basically anti hedonism and anti sensationalism which attributes to stoicism not being some kind of self help bullshit but a wake up call for pulling your shit together and mental fortitude which is extremely manly because men are natural sources of strength and stability.

In theory
In reality, this is just being human in general.
Women often have to work long hours and still go home to make dinner for the kids

Also, "anti hedonism" is often used to morally harass/guilt trip men for having any form of recreation.


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Anonymous 25/07/06(Sun)21:52 No. 16660

Hi




COVER UP on REBIRTH Anonymous 25/06/11(Wed)15:58 No. 16621 [Reply]

‘ I ’
A Sutra
Contents : a detailed explanation
of rebirth and reincarnation
composed by the author in verse
after the format of the Sanskrit sutra ;
a loose collection of lines linked together
and progressing in order of
topical development — from questions,
to axioms, to demonstrated conclusions.
“After your death you will be what you were
before your birth” —Shopenhaur
It is possible to be born
Beings will be born again
I was born as a Being
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Anonymous 25/06/11(Wed)16:04 No. 16633

that we both are and are not
responsible for the creation of our own
Heavens and Hells.
In the same way, a Paradise,
a perpetual series of lives
with very little suffering, could,
in the reality of our basic animal realm,
(without anything extra-natural)
occur.
However, if the inhabitants
actions do not match
the Heavenly state of life,
but rather cause suffering to others—
their perpetual Heaven will deteriorate
by their very own hand.
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Anonymous 25/06/11(Wed)16:05 No. 16634

Because it is possible to be born,
and because there are so many births,
nothingness is unlikely to follow death,
but rather a potentially perpetual series of lives.
Because of this potentially perpetual series of lives,
the peace of blissful nothingness is unlikely
to follow death, but, rather, more life.
If the peace of non-existence does not follow death,
but more life, then we can only be certain to have peace
in life, in a given incarnation.
Although not true in a pure sense without alternative,
there is a sense in which,
within these many incarnations,
each life will only be composed of present moments.
In this sense, if we fail to take peace in the present
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Anonymous 25/06/11(Wed)16:05 No. 16635

Jacobs Ladder
Mathematics
Jacob’s Ladder:
Probability of Human Birth /
Buddhist Proverb of the Turtle
There is a classic Buddhist proverb which says that the likelihood of being incarnated in a human birth is
the same as the likelihood of a Turtle sticking its head out of the water and coming up through a log with
a hole in it. Using our equation and working backwards,
Earth’s Oceans have 333.42 million km squared surface area. If a log with half meter hole is on that
surface the probability of coming up in that section is 1/6,668,400,000,000,000
Human population is over 8 billion, meaning for this estimate to be accurate there would need to be
6.6684^11 non human beings for every human or 5.33472^20 non human beings (either total or on Earth
depending on what the proverb refers to).
Estimates for bacteria alone are around 5x10^30 to 13x10^35. Estimates for the number of species on
Earth are between 8.7^6 and 10^12. If the species which have very few and the ones which have a very
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