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Historian 15/08/10(Mon)22:05 No. 14716
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Why were native Americans so terrible at war?


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Historian 15/08/11(Tue)20:15 No. 14717
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Actually they were quite kick-ass, read deep in some history, the wars they won are not usually discussed.

They didn't lose to U.S military might very often, they lost through forced starvation, germ warfare, and the United States Cavalry having no issues with slaughtering women and children. This has always been played up as something the Savages would do, but in reality most Native Americans found killing innocent civilians rather disgusting. Hence ONE of the reasons many of them stopped, they were willing to fight but the U.S Army was not interested in fighting, they were interested in genocide.

Try to learn about Native Americans from some source other then fucking John Wayne movies.


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Historian 15/08/13(Thu)06:52 No. 14718
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>>14717
Seriously. When it came to actual fighters, several of the north american nations produced among the finest, strongest, smartest, most successful fighters the world has ever seen. They had plenty of practice, with every bit as much political unrest and war and resources and bodies as europe and the steppe had.

Unfortunately for them, the timing was such that, unlike europe, which had plenty of time to recover its population after smallpox epidemics, the native murricans had no such luxury. They got to experience both seeing well over 99.9% of their populations simply lay down and die of european disease, and then the few hundred thousand stragglers scattered to the wind, allies and enemies alike, all got to witness the mostly cool French traders recede, only to be replaced by limitless hordes of english and dutch genocidal christian white supremacists (I mean, lol, read their shit, much of which was written by faggots who'd never even been here or seen any of the shit they were writing about & felt they didn't need to, & most of whose work is still what shapes the attitude toward the natives today), mashed them all together, and without taking 2 minutes to learn anything about any of the enormous cultures they were walking into or the history or the land or the agriculture or the climate or any of the knowledge that enabled a population of a couple hundred million people to blossom and thrive for 15,000 fucking years, discarded any notion of it whatsoever, assumed no one else could know anything they didn't, and started burning texts, ripping tongues out, made a pastime out of hunting & killing them for sport, and pushed the stragglers into concentration camps where they were barred from education, trade, employment for centuries, starved by restriction of resources by design, and had their bloodlines systematically bred out of them (but to call it rape isn't PC now) the same way the south americans had been by the spanish. This was all seen as perfectly acceptable at the time and had the backing of the church, how dare you criticize, you fucking comfortable suburbanite?

And we've been occupying it ever since, and bitching about the 12 of them left and why they won't get jobs those good-for-nothing lazy fuckers, and that's why in our hearts, we know god considers the white people of the USA truly blessed.

If there were a conscious god interested in justice and human affairs, europeans would have been wiped out long before they ever made it to these shores.


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Historian 15/08/13(Thu)18:54 No. 14719
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>>14718
>>14717


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Historian 15/08/14(Fri)03:52 No. 14720

>>14719
Writing some more words, about the thing being talked aboot.

What are you doing?


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Historian 15/08/15(Sat)07:54 No. 14723

>>14717
You've been watching Pocahontas too much, friend. Real life Native Americans were mostly vile savages who skullfucked and displaced each other all the time. And the peaceful ones would turn savage like that the moment they felt insulted by whites.

What were these wars they supposedly won? They got the drop on whities a few times like with Custer but even then they dispersed instead of taking advantage of the victory. 300 years of fighting and not one of them could carve out a nation and defend its borders? I mean sorry, but people so inept deserve to be wiped out.

And John Wayne wasn't in no Indian movies.


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Historian 15/08/17(Mon)05:19 No. 14727

>>14723
truf, their culture had no way of reacting to an encroaching superior technology alien race , just like we would have no chance against some alien finding earth and attacking us, sure of all the hundreds of skirmishes they may have won one or two significant ones, but that is essentially meanigless


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Historian 15/08/20(Thu)21:15 No. 14729

>>>14723
>>>14727

Hmm...interesting perspectives. I guess I will just have to live with you both being horribly misinformed and rather stupid. Ahh...yeah I think I can live with that. Enjoy being fucktards.


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Historian 15/08/25(Tue)09:18 No. 14735
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>>14723

Wow, shit talking is one thing, but you actually put thought into your ill-informed criticism. I'd commend you for trying if you weren't so abysmally ignorant about the subject you're fumbling trying to talk about here.

I love that pre-1935, there were about two texts available that weren't written from a british white supremacy perspective, and yet most white americans, from the difficulty they experienced eking out their survival, had at least some exposure to or appreciation for the accomplishments and prowess of native peoples, while today, everyone has a wealth of information available to them, exponentially more factual history and firsthand experiences and perspectives have been unearthed and recovered, and yet more of you dumb fucks are actually less informed than ever before on the history of this place.

I look forward to seeing your posts setting everyone straight on mathematics and engineering without having read any books on those subjects whatsoever either... lol


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Historian 15/08/25(Tue)22:52 No. 14736

>>more information available, at nearly everyone's fingertips, then ever before in history.

>>more people are more stupid about more things than ever before.

It's the dismal tide


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Historian 15/09/22(Tue)23:23 No. 14757
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I point you all to the case of the Mapuche tribe in Southern Chile and Argentina. After some initial skirmishes that never went well for them, they adapted in strength against the European Invaders and held them at bay for nearly 500 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arauco_War

The trick being of course to turn the cruelty, blood thirty tactics, and general lack of giving a shit back into the faces of invaders, thereby scaring the shit out of them.


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Historian 15/09/30(Wed)18:32 No. 14766

>>14716
Why were Native Americans so awful at everything?

Bad at war
Bad at agriculture
Bad at herding (couldn't even domesticate the bison lol)
Bad at trade (dude I NEED to have those beads!!!!)
Bad at medicine (tobacco)
Bad at procreating
Bad at drinking


It's just.. awful. They were the fucking pandas of the human race.


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Historian 15/09/30(Wed)22:41 No. 14767

>>14766

You troll much bro?


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Historian 15/10/01(Thu)12:03 No. 14772

>>14766
>Bad at drinking
Nonsense, they're fucking awesome at drinking. They'll drink your lightweight ass under the table.


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Historian 15/10/03(Sat)05:29 No. 14773

>>14767
Try to see the forest for the trees bruh. My form may be trollish but the message completely true.

>>14772
Maybe the 80% mixed John Redcorn types.

Oh and btw if they're such beautiful, deep people in tune with nature then why are reservoirs a hotbed for incest, meth and diabetes?


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Historian 15/10/04(Sun)23:19 No. 14774

>>14773

its called institutionalized poverty you ignorant piece of white bread shit.

And by the way, nothing you stated was true, just racist bullshit. Go back to reading your Aryan brotherhood pamphlets and telling yourself how superior you are.



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