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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 ID: 4c1a8e [Reply] Stickied
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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:

THE BIG STICKIED THREAD OF PHILOSOPHY RESOURCES



Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.


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Anonymous 13/02/23(Sat)02:29 No. 9685 ID: 61dff4

Excellent resource on Deleuze and D&G: http://www.protevi.com/john/DG/index.html




Anonymous ## Mod ## 12/02/02(Thu)05:26 No. 5920 ID: 4fb7fa [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts] Stickied
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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.


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Anonymous 13/05/07(Tue)22:57 No. 10094 ID: 3f144b

>>10084
I don't think the world is perfect, neither do I think humans are perfect. I would suggest that only because of chance are things the way they are. If the universe is in fact unending there would be an unending amount of possiblities, we only know one of them.

>>10086
where do you come from to criticise the authoritarian nature of monotheism? :P

I think you do have a point though. Rather than discussing whether gods could possibly be real, I would suggest that these figures reflect the people who hold them to be true (scincerely or not). Monistic gods seem to reflect a father figure and authority which could tell us alot more about the people who first spoke of them.




READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOU PILE OF FAGGOTS Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/09/09(Fri)04:51 No. 2371 ID: 175f07 [Reply] Locked Stickied
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We interrupt your scheduled bickering for this important announcement: Understanding /phi/

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feminism Anonymous 13/05/11(Sat)12:30 No. 10110 ID: 3f144b [Reply]
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Hi,
i've looking into the anti-feminist internetz lately. Stuff like the MRA and Girl Writes What. quite frankly I think it's all a load of bullshit that has exploited the latent misogynist views of young (possibly socially disenfranchised) men who probably watch too much porn.
In particular I've looked at the Anita Sarkeesian affair the past day or two. Before I had ever heard of her I had seen one of the flash-games that allow you to beat up the woman who had 'conned' people into giving her money. This game made reasonable sense to me at the time as i did not know the full story. However after watching a fews of her videos I can say she definitely did not con anyone, as you can see in the picture she purchased a ton of games and went through them all. Furthermore Sarkeesian has been 'challenged' by the likes of Thunderf00t and others with conversing arguments evident of much less research or even understanding of gender studies or representation of gender. The results of her research are in fact not so surprising or controversial, quite in line with what gender-studies have shown over the years and i don't doubt quite accurate. The difference is that these videos and information are freely online as a part of an educational series on the internet, freely available to teachers, students and individuals alike.
Unfortunately there is a very active community of 4chan's anons putting major efforts into denial of her work and by extension her valuable and educational research. And it should be noted that this is mainly because they do not like her results, which is a deeply troubling sign of intense irrationality.

so I wanted to start a thread to discuss feminism.
what do you think of it and what do you think of extreme anti-feminism as we've seen on the internet and chan-culture?
what philosophy do you find compatible or incompatible with feminist ideology?


(hope you don't mind this thread in /phi/)


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Anonymous 13/05/18(Sat)02:24 No. 10175 ID: ca12bb

again with your wishful thinking fantasies?

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)


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Anonymous 13/05/18(Sat)14:18 No. 10177 ID: 3f144b

>>10170
should your biology affect your gender?
Of course there is a difference in biology and it affects peoples abilities. But should we organise ourselves in that way? Should we obligate men to protect women because males are supposedly stronger physically thereby obligating women to take a passive role? When we do this results in things that both male and female rights advocates complain about: ignoring male rape and expecting women to become housewives for example.
(you didn't seem to understand what I was asking)

>>10172
cool story. You must be high on crack.

>>10166
gender is something your given, sex is what youre born with. it's a pretty dumb comment so i'm not responding further.


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Anonymous 13/05/19(Sun)04:21 No. 10179 ID: e66227
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>>10177
>But should we organize ourselves in that way?
It's important to make a distinction between a gender as a group and individual memebers of that gender. So, even though women, for example, tend to be better caregivers, there are many males who make excellent nurses. When the sample size is six billion, there tends to be a lot of deviation from the mean. So, no. People should be judged by individual merit, not assigned lots by their posession of either dangly bits or scooped out bits. The answer would be yes if members of each biological sex were much more homogeneous.




Anonymous 13/01/16(Wed)09:40 No. 9346 ID: 891eed [Reply]
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I'm hungry to increase my knowledge, to change my view, to broaden my perspectives. I don't want to do this online, though: I want paper, I want books. What are the best titles you can recommend to me for, say, the philosophies of people, of humanity, of the mind, of society, of knowledge, of life, and of the universe? I'll start there (and likely never get past that, and that is okay). Classic philosophers, stereotypical philosophers, unpopular philosophers, new minds, old minds... whatever anon would like to recommend.

tl;dr give me titles of your best philosophic books to read


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Fiend 13/05/17(Fri)02:26 No. 10169 ID: 6a395f

I think, u can start by chronological philosophy, in my opinion in a study of psychology, astronomy, and science of behavior; Epicuro, David Hume, Bertrand Russell, B.F Skinner, Aaron Beck, Richard Dawkins, Edgar Allan Poe....


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Anonymous 13/05/18(Sat)07:13 No. 10176 ID: ba127e

Walden or life in the woods - American naturalism.


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Anonymous 13/05/18(Sat)14:21 No. 10178 ID: 3f144b

you could read the cyborg manifesto online if you want:http://www.egs.edu/faculty/donna-haraway/articles/donna-haraway-a-cyborg-manifesto/

Otherwise I think Zizek is very interesting and Chomsky (if you can consider him a philosopher) too.




Anonymous 12/12/30(Sun)06:49 No. 9202 ID: 1167ae [Reply]
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Billy Murray did such an excellent version of Heraclitus. If Groundhogs were rivers. ... that you couldn't step into if they were the same twice.


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Anonymous 13/05/16(Thu)05:01 No. 10167 ID: c1bebf

>>10160
You can't step into a completely iced river, you step ONTO it.


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Anonymous 13/05/18(Sat)02:19 No. 10173 ID: ca12bb

actually, if you kick some dirt away at the side of a completely iced river you can stub your toe by walking into it


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Anonymous 13/05/18(Sat)02:22 No. 10174 ID: ca12bb

oh and then you tell people to cut taxes

http://leftycartoons.com/the-24-types-of-libertarian/

because libertarians defy fate because they're free from all restraints

but I digress this thread is about philosophy




Anonymous 13/05/15(Wed)16:19 No. 10163 ID: cb9fa8 [Reply]
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Would you really want to psychic?

If your mind had some intangible contact with the brain it would compromise your ability to establish a causal relationship between yourself and the external world.

To that affect, your limit to establish the nature of the system of reality around your would be compromised.

However, it may also empower you enough to examine beyond the epistemological constrains of our ordinary humanity.

Is there any way to rationally resolve this dilemma?


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Anonymous 13/05/17(Fri)18:38 No. 10171 ID: 9f22eb

The moment you became psychic you would more than likely become aware of all the other psychic folk out there in the world and likewise they would become aware of you. Enjoy your new club of super best friends, hot headed rivals and girls you have something in common with.




Anonymous 13/05/16(Thu)22:45 No. 10168 ID: c5f74c [Reply]
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When it comes to the study of an Information society, where do you think McLuhan and Innis agree and differ?
I'm surprised to find just how much ties them together, to the point where they even put each-other on their student's reading lists.
Would be interested to see /phi/'s opinion on the notion of technology creating our reality.




Dodging the insanity of the sublime memetic evolution interaction and inevitability 13/05/09(Thu)14:33 No. 10106 ID: cb9fa8 [Reply]
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I am disturbed by the notion that I am placed in this person at this time, late enough in the memetic evolution of man to aspire towards personal asymptotic omniscience but early enough not to know for sure, and to have that kind of sanctity and peace in the uncertainty of life coupled with the certainty that I can sidestep the cultural and biological bullshit that my ancestors fell to.

That being said, what a shame that the most enjoyable experiences tend to be the most conjusive to the destruction of the facities which enable us to explore the enjoyable.


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Anonymous 13/05/12(Sun)18:52 No. 10121 ID: 379695

Yeah yeah yeah, how's about I get you one of them mass market fusion reactors. Would that soothe your colic?


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Anonymous 13/05/15(Wed)01:41 No. 10161 ID: cd272f

>what a shame that the most enjoyable experiences tend to be the most conjusive to the destruction of the facities which enable us to explore the enjoyable.

not sure that part is really true. Sex doesnt destroy the facility, neither does painting, or walking hills...




Anonymous 13/05/13(Mon)04:26 No. 10129 ID: acfdca [Reply]
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I have an ethical problem with keeping pets as a means for human gratification. Let's try to keep this at an objective level as opposed to adhering to the emotional illusion that an animal is always happy with its owner. In some cases, that may be entirely untrue.

Since we cannot communicate to any domesticated animal in a way that both beings involved intuitively understand each other, we cannot determine its will whatever, but only so far as the reason it may carry out an action is because the circumstances are more favourable than its contrary. For example, walking out the door without our control implies that its desire to stay home isn't as strong as its desire to leave.

A cat, for example, which originally was given no choice but to succumb to our control was bred and deprived of its offspring before they learned the basic self defense mechanisms necessary for its survival, was given no say in the matter. This is a testament to a complete oppression of will and thereby defeating the cat's natural, unaware purpose.

A cat is now deprived from using the senses it was given, only to be kept in a potentially small room designed for humans imposed with regimens and other controls and human values against this will. The cat now disregards its will and becomes servile to its owner to continue surviving in conditions beyond its own control.

In the same way that I can be seen as unhappy and sinister when in fact I am content, unresponsive, and indifferent is just like saying that a pet gives you excess attention out of love, when in fact it may want something. To read a pet in correspondence to human values, more specifically, your own values, is a naive approach at understanding the pet's own values and is what can actually be called an illusion.

So what if the pet is unhappy but has no means of conveying it to you? Scratching walls, crying and pounding the floor is a human expression that may not be shared commonly among other animals. Is the default assumption that it is not stressed? Or stressed?

This brings up a consideration relevant to the idea of being absolutely certain in all cases, or not at all:
If a man is actually innocent of a crime he did not do, but is subjected to a prison cell against his will, that means that the jurisdiction did not see the act as it took place, but assumed under what appeared to be the case. It is not ethical to jail a man for something he did not do. It should then be justifiable to not jail a man at all if there exists even a hint of uncertainty, but only when the crime has been witnessed and proven without any argument of objection to it whatsoever. In the same sense of being certain or not at all: we cannot be certain that a cat is happy or unhappy in any place which it is held under the dictation of its owner, so the default is to assume it is unhappy if one instance of unhappiness occurs, which ma Message too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Anonymous 13/05/15(Wed)00:06 No. 10156 ID: 3f144b

>>10155
i'm saying there is no hierarchy in co-habitation. cats made the original choice to move into human area's like foxes are moving today into towns and cities - because those environments benefit those animals. And you don't know what MY value set is regarding a pet. DO you even have a pet? get over it, keeping an animal for human gratification is about as ungrounded or grounded as an animal keeping a human for its gratification.


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Anonymous 13/05/15(Wed)00:15 No. 10158 ID: e6f7d2

>>10156
I have lived with a roommate who owned a cat which seemed to "cry" every day because it was hungry (roommate had a 2-3 meal-a-day schedule for it), it would eat the carpet because it had nothing else. It would lick the salty bacterial residue in the corner of walls. The cat would always 'greet' you at the door. However, it wasn't an actual greet, as my roommate seemed to think, rather whenever it wanted something it would give you attention. It tried to escape a few times, the roommate forced it back. It looked out at the door when the door was open; the roommate requested him not to think about it. I left because I couldn't look at this cat every day doing nothing in a space too tiny and barren for it, begging for food and waiting for its next meal.

I have not owned a cat, but I am writing here because I have just left my roommates place wanting to see from someone unbiased from owning a pet themselves what they think


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Anonymous 13/05/15(Wed)01:13 No. 10159 ID: 3f144b
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>>10158
well, i've lived with cats all my life until i moved out last summer. I'd say your roommate wasn't treating his cat right - if it was eating the carpet I it sounds like it was being tortured. Cats are pretty independent so usually I'd leave them dried biscuits out all the time and give them wet food 2-3 times a day. They were always allowed to go out except very late at night. Animals often beg and cry when they want something but that isn't anything particularly bad. One cat I got as a kitten when I was six and -it might sound weird - but the noises she makes really change with her mood. I'm not sure if you can understand if you haven't owned your own pet but you do learn to be connected in some way. She could ask me for more attention or less or appreciate I was there and quite a few other things. However some people never really learn how to take care of animals and it sounds like your roommate hasn't either. Don't let that fool you tho, if you love your pets, they'll love you back.

pic related: mfw that last scentence




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