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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 ID: 4c1a8e [Reply] Stickied

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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:


Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.

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Fun funforyou 15/12/28(Mon)03:05 No. 12383 ID: 537707


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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.

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Aura 16/04/19(Tue)04:01 No. 12502 ID: 0ccaee

There's no such thing as being 'more evolved.' Evolution is not a linear progression, new bits of dna show up and old bits sometimes go away, it's almost purely random.

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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/12/04(Sun)05:06 No. 4980 ID: 4c1a8e

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Anonymous 16/03/30(Wed)01:10 No. 12488 ID: 44cd17 [Reply]

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The notion that to lie in and of itself is unjust or immoral is a fallacy.

One may lie for many a purpose. One may lie to entertain, to protect the innocent, or to let the past be forgotten. A lie may be used justly or unjustly. The mechanism itself cannot be held accountable to its use, or the consequences.

As the saying goes, lies don't kill people, people kill people...

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Anonymous 16/05/22(Sun)18:45 No. 12569 ID: d2744a

It's called rhetoric son, but thanks for the summary.

Anonymous 16/05/22(Sun)18:50 No. 12570 ID: d2744a

Only if their lies instigate murder or the discovery of the truth instigates a murderous response--but that choice is within the moral domain of the person being lied to.

You never have to kill someone, one usually chooses to do so for revenge, survival, etc. or occasionally on instinct (ie, crimes of passion--a worry for liars).

Anonymous 16/05/25(Wed)23:14 No. 12573 ID: 6fc3f4

To play Devil's Advocate, I think the argument against lying goes something like this: Lying is a tool which is so prone to abuse and so often leads to disastrous consequences, that any potential benefits lying may have can never be outweighed by the harm it causes. Thus, lying should be abolished altogether.

As for my own opinion, while I think in theory a world without lies would probably be better than our present circumstances, on an individual level lying seems to be necessary at least some of the time. There's also the issue of enforcement, which makes the abolishment of lying practically impossible.

Anarchy Anonymous 15/12/07(Mon)20:42 No. 12357 ID: ab0906 [Reply]

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What are the reasons that prove the impossibility of an anarchy in every country of the world ?
Is it really because of the human fagottry ? By this I mean the eternal abuses of power, stuff like that. Are there other reasons to think anarchy isn't realizable anywhere else than in our brains and sayings ?

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Anonymous 16/01/06(Wed)06:18 No. 12395 ID: ed6845


Here is your citation


Anonymous 16/01/15(Fri)19:26 No. 12410 ID: 9c3171


Nobody asked for this, lol?

Anonymous 16/05/22(Sun)19:13 No. 12572 ID: 3811dd

The only way anyone could formally establish an anarchist (insert anarchist unit of polity here) would be to simultaneously abolish all other governments with any interest in the territory, because they'd be defenseless (no nation, no army) and they'd be overrun (no government, no negotiations).

Now if you want to have some autonomy, and live in your hippie commune and worship satan with minimal government interference, we can talk about that. Anarchy is a fantasy born from our ancestral memories of pre-civilization, grow up.

Anonymous 16/03/09(Wed)08:23 No. 12458 ID: 3ee603 [Reply]

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Did Darwin answer the question of what the meaning of life is?

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Anonymous 16/05/07(Sat)16:18 No. 12557 ID: eb915c


There is no selection. Selection requires a motivated action and the environment doesn't act. So sorry, you're obviously too dense to understand what you're saying.

Anonymous 16/05/07(Sat)17:57 No. 12559 ID: 75c683

No it doesn't.

See, just like I said in >>12556

You think the act of observation requires an observer.

You are fucking retarded.

Just because there's no "intentional" selection taking place doesn't mean there's no selection.

Anonymous 16/05/22(Sun)19:05 No. 12571 ID: 3811dd

You could argue, from a certain point of view, that perhaps he had.

Darwin had discovered that life on earth seeks diversity and adaptation in order to occupy every niche of every environment with life. He was limited by the knowledge and technology of his time--imagine if he knew bacteria grow deep in the crust of the earth!

He was perhaps among the first to lift the veil of human vanity and see life itself as a unified force of proliferation, to get a glimpse of the order of nature over which humanity had not dominion, but profound interdependence. From this perspective I would argue he discovered the meaning of life is to proliferate, to expand, multiply, and diversify indefinetly--and consistently raise the bar on the "top" of the food chain.

Anonymous 15/11/16(Mon)06:19 No. 12321 ID: 21c12c [Reply]

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Is there really a right and wrong?

personally I believe that there is none, life is pointless.


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Anonymous 16/02/06(Sat)12:57 No. 12432 ID: 716a29

Right and wrong can give life meaning

Anonymous 16/03/15(Tue)18:50 No. 12467 ID: 641a38

>there is none, life is pointless.

The presense or absense of moral absolutes bears no determination on the purpose of living.

Anonymous 16/05/18(Wed)06:46 No. 12568 ID: 016d59

Life is subjective.

Does an afterlife exist? L 16/05/15(Sun)23:23 No. 12564 ID: 84fe35 [Reply]

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Give your best arguments on why it does/does not exist. I do believe in it and think that it is just another reality.

(pic... I like the pic)

Anonymous 16/05/17(Tue)07:25 No. 12566 ID: 319e01

If we're nothing more than the sum of our physical parts then the concept of an afterlife seems absurd. Believing in an afterlife requires believing in dualism, because experiencing it requires some kind of soul or mind that can be separated from the physical body which can die.

Anonymous 15/10/15(Thu)16:02 No. 12297 ID: 8ca4f2 [Reply]

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I'm not sure if this belongs here, but it's more philosophy and way of life than religion.

So, I'm an American in Texas, and I'm trying to pursue the Purva Mimamsa tradition of Hinduism. In not sure how to start, though. Should I just read the pdfs on the tradition that I found online? Should I study Hinduism from a General perspective, even though the following of deities is not the focus of purva mimamsa? I'm atheist, and the atheist tradition interests me.

Or can I find a teacher? How? Should I just read the Vedas and go from there? Purva Mimamsa seems to be smaller sect, so I'm not surprised that opportunity to learn is so small in America, or at least my part.

Any useful help or advice is welcome. Discussion is also welcome, even if it doesn't help me. The image seems related, but actually is only vaguely so, due to association.

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Anonymous 15/12/26(Sat)01:24 No. 12380 ID: 2293a4

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Budhism is a "non theist" tradition, very interesting by the point that afirmmes there is no god, no form, all is empty and spacious. So they try to achieve happines by using psychologic exercises. ,, I call my self as an "Atheist non praticant"

Anonymous 16/03/21(Mon)13:12 No. 12471 ID: 9696d9


You obviously have no training in philosophy, nor are you all that well-read.

L 16/05/15(Sun)23:30 No. 12565 ID: 84fe35

"For a moment, pretend that A is true, therefore B and C are true"

>therefore B and C
>outta nowhere

Zoos and Aquariums Anonymous 16/05/13(Fri)22:10 No. 12561 ID: beb2f1 [Reply]

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In a utilitarian sense, is there any way to justify the existence of zoos? If the amount of animals in captivity and the number of hardships they would have to suffer was kept to a minimum, could you justify keeping these animals, showcasing them to people who would otherwise never see anything like them?

Anonymous 16/05/15(Sun)03:15 No. 12563 ID: 319e01

To answer this properly requires measuring the costs and benefits of living in captivity and living in the wild. This has the potential to vary wildly even between individuals of the same species. It's not impossible to imagine some critter deciding that a downsized stomping ground is better than being chased by predators all the time, but the same critter's sibling might reject any restrictions on its freedom, no matter what it stands to gain in return. This all, of course, assumes that a particular animal has the capacity to give two shits either way; many might, but some won't.

If you can tally the hedons and crunch the numbers, then we can say for sure.

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