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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 ID: 4c1a8e [Reply] Stickied

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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:


Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.

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Fun funforyou 15/12/28(Mon)03:05 No. 12383 ID: 537707


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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

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New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.

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Good point Joey 17/01/02(Mon)06:25 No. 12780 ID: 8d3dfb

That does bring up an interesting point how do we know God does not control our free will what if the voice in our head is not us but some one else who controls any thing and every thing

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Anonymous 16/12/24(Sat)23:39 No. 12763 ID: 0f36a6 [Reply]

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Why are atheists so obsessed with aliens and other conspiracy theories? There is literally no credible evidence for their existence. Is it because they are immature manchildren?


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Anonymous 17/01/24(Tue)02:44 No. 12799 ID: 7cf7bd

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They take everything at face value.

Anonymous 17/01/24(Tue)02:56 No. 12800 ID: 5a53ee

Yeah, autistics tend to do that.

Anonymous 17/01/24(Tue)05:54 No. 12801 ID: 7cf7bd


No. Atheists in general take everything at face value. Dawkins and his inane memetics theory is one example. Another fedora tipper is the Halloween larper LaVey.

Anonymous 16/03/09(Wed)08:23 No. 12458 ID: 3ee603 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]

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Did Darwin answer the question of what the meaning of life is?

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Anonymous 17/01/08(Sun)03:58 No. 12784 ID: eb915c

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Anonymous 17/01/19(Thu)17:38 No. 12792 ID: 1dd666


Truly euphoric.

*tips fedora*

Anonymous 17/01/22(Sun)23:38 No. 12798 ID: eb915c


Fedora tippers are hilarious. All they do is regurgitate whatever some old conspiracy nut like Dawkins writes. How can anyone take him seriously? Aliens, lol.

Free Will Anonymous 16/12/23(Fri)13:13 No. 12759 ID: 4da869 [Reply]

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You have 10 seconds to prove why this guy isn't 100% correct.

Pro tip: you can't.


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Anonymous 16/12/30(Fri)12:14 No. 12772 ID: 4da869

>All he describes behaves the way it does because the underlying function of the universe requires it to do so.

Correct. It is always the universe acting the only way it can. Changing the WAY that you look at it doesn't change the underlying thing that is happening.

>They do not have free will until they are put into a context of a system.

That is precisely what the video is saying. Free will does exist, and free will does not exist, at the same time. It depends on what context you are looking at.

> In this way, it has free will, and does not have free will


(Thanks fam, I appreciate the discussion)

Anonymous 17/01/02(Mon)18:56 No. 12781 ID: f3ebab

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Free will can exist in the world of the noumenal if you want to go the Kantian route. As long as you posit that the mind structures its appearances and thus uses concepts, or as Kant would call it, "categories" there is no contradiction in positing freedom in the noumenal and having the effect or consequence of freedom be posited in the phenomenal realm. That is, to sum up the argument that Kant makes: there are certain concepts that structure our reality and once you go beyond these concepts that structure your experience you go beyond the phenomenal realm and into the noumenal. Thus there is a distinction between phenomenal and noumenal, the thing-in-itself and the world of appearance. There would be no contradiction in positing freedom in the noumenal and then positing freedom's effects in the world of empirical conditions and conditioned, except the empirically conditioned would just be seemingly and substantially noumenal. The Kantian perspective is a bit clearer than the Buddhist in my opinion.It almost seems like we're saying the same thing in different words though.

Kant's proof for free-will is brilliant.

Anonymous 17/01/22(Sun)10:19 No. 12797 ID: ed8b6e

Do we get a choice as if we want to?
Cause I don't really want to.

Deism is the only belief that makes sense. Anonymous 16/12/09(Fri)15:07 No. 12747 ID: 57a468 [Reply]

Now, why would a supreme being like God even care about a bunch of stupid apes like us?

He is probably just programmer who made our universe as a test simulation and eventually abandon the project.

Evolution is merely just a function in the code of the universe. God didn't create us as he only wrote the function and the code did the rest of the work. So why would he care about some primates who became capable of recognizing his existence?

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Anonymous 17/01/18(Wed)14:08 No. 12791 ID: 084328

My mum has the idea that because god is so great he has the capacity to love everyone individually, thats how great he is.

pretty interesting if you think about it

Anonymous 17/01/21(Sat)20:14 No. 12793 ID: 47863f

Maybe He Cares because we are Part of his Energie and connected to him..
Half animal, half god.

sage 17/01/12(Thu)06:52 No. 12785 ID: 66a496 [Reply]

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Are video games (and probably TV) viable only because we live in a post-existential age where, for most, seeking to escape reality is not only feasible, but accepted and constantly improved upon vis a vis VR, better graphics, and widespread glorification of more and more extreme forms of excitement/violence in our media?

Anonymous 17/01/12(Thu)07:34 No. 12786 ID: ca3ceb

Entertainment existed since we lived in caves yo.

Anonymous 17/01/22(Sun)03:43 No. 12794 ID: ed8b6e

Video games are, for most people, a means for people to regain control over lives, even if it's virtual.

exhalted philosophers give common advice Anonymous 17/01/15(Sun)07:39 No. 12787 ID: d58e80 [Reply]

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How come "continental philosophers" end up making such common statements like, "don't think about it too much," "people are shitty," "keep on trucking," "hang in there!" Even after all of their pondering, they come up with wisdom that anyone over the age of 50 can tell you?

The cold indifference of the universe Anonymous 16/12/28(Wed)00:09 No. 12765 ID: 84060f [Reply]

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I do not necessarily have a fear of death. I actually sometimes think it would be cool to just not exist anymore and have nothing to worry about. It's still scary, but in comparison to what has begun to plague my thoughts it's nothing.

Anxiety has made me go through a lot. I used to be comfortable in my body and familiar with it. I felt happy, safe, and at home. After all the mental pain, intense stomach-crushing fear, I am left with an unsettling feeling about everything. I feel like I am a prisoner of reality. This universe summoned my consciousness here, with no choice on my part as far as I'm aware, to live this life, during which I have had to deal with these intense and horrible sensations.

The fact that there was nothing I could do about it, that there is no one to help, that the only thing I can reach out to is other monkeys in clothes who are also trapped in their own minds (though it's probably a better place in there), is incredibly isolating.

I have felt a pure, raw fear of death and eternity. I am no longer confident in reality. I am disturbed by its existence. I have no idea how I lived so long without thinking much of it.

The fact that it's probably possible that a few million years from now a group of aliens summons my consciousness again and induces torture and pain for thousands of years with no rest, and the universe just wouldn't care in its indifferent coldness, is terrifying. I'm scared of reality in that way. The fact that every horrible nightmare we can come up with could happen someday, and there is just no way to know.

This all feels very surreal. I feel uncomfortable being a brain. I can't trust my body not to get sick and give me a slow and painful or fast and even more painful death.

What is going on? Where are all the cameras?

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Anonymous 16/12/28(Wed)21:28 No. 12768 ID: 408a9f

Do not worry too long about the Universe or the Universe may worry about you. Instead of something helpful, here are 10 anecdotes.

Your health defines only your physical existence. Be the type of person that can consider themself grounded.

When society exerts that global temperature or politics is the leading problem in the world today, find 300 ways to ignore them.

Only the Good die young can mean more than one thing. Life is a lot more about fresh air than computers.

For the incredible number of negative and polluting things in society there is nearly always a pocket of good.

Smart people don't watch TV. Movies are good, Old movies are better, and music can make you sing.

Learning is good for the soul.

Global systems run intensively Cryptographic data through wires, stations, and satellites to your home. You should never let that get you down.
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Anonymous 16/12/30(Fri)13:31 No. 12773 ID: f3ebab

No one knows what's going on. Philosophy and mathematics are the closest thing to Platonic purity we can get. This is why I love philosophy. It's the only pure form of human activity along with mathematics that humans can do. Your soul is striving for certainty in a world of chaos. It's good to ask questions and be curious, but not pathologically so. There's a certain amount of philosophical certainty you should strive for, too much will drive you mad. Existence and consciousness seems to be too complicated for it not to have some kind of purpose, hold on to the Kantian super-sensible and the moral vocation we humans have. Start to contemplate beauty more, and the transcendentals. It will help with the eldritch form of the universe that we're automagically stuck in. The more you philosophize the more you can feel our supersensible nature more, or what Plato would call the Forms. Philosophy and math will let you grasp towards the infinite. You might enjoy Spinoza's Letter on the Infinite. A very short introduction to Spinoza that his friends read.


I'd recommend the Critique of Judgment for an analysis of beauty. Though it would help if you are already familiar with Kant. To get into the Critique of Judgment you should be familiar with the Critique of Pure Reason and the Critique of Practical Reason.

Here's a science documentary on people who had near-death experiences if you're interested in learning about what comes next. Maybe there is a purpose to it all, who knows. http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/day-i-died/

I'd also recommend Terrence Malick's filmography. He's a philosophical filmmaker who enjoys contemplating the sublime. His films might help ease you into the beauty of human nature. Tree of Life and Knight of Cups are films I'd particularly recommend for you.
Just keep philosophizing bro, you'll be fine. The questions are all that matter for now.

Anonymous 16/12/30(Fri)21:37 No. 12775 ID: ccdc91

Death is a fabrication, honestly, just like the rest of the world of appearances. Death is a worse offender in my opinion, though, because the only thing that separates us from a "dead state" is a lack of conscious states. Many people think that we are conscious states, rather than that we have them. It's a bit like the idea of the soul in that there is no reason to suppose a separate mind with perfect continuity, and all evidence suggests the opposite, but we still cling to it as a final vestige of folk psychology.

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