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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 ID: 4c1a8e [Reply] Stickied

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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:


Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.

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Anonymous 14/02/14(Fri)02:00 No. 11120 ID: 29df20

This site is absolutely amazing. Use it well. All the lectures are wonderful.


Check out their other courses as well...

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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.

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Anonymous 14/09/20(Sat)14:05 No. 11805 ID: 2576d3

>This is nice. Very Lovecraftian at the core.
It's actually just a spin on one of the conversations from the movie Akira.

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOU PILE OF FAGGOTS Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/09/09(Fri)04:51 No. 2371 ID: 175f07 [Reply] Locked Stickied

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Anonymous 14/08/02(Sat)01:08 No. 11652 ID: 73af72 [Reply]

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How Valid is the idea of a world of Philosopher Kings like Plato wrote? Would it actually work, or would there need to be some representations for those less studied?

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Anonymous 14/09/18(Thu)06:07 No. 11797 ID: 73af72

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If you think about it Rome after it became an Empire was almost like a semi-attempt at Plato's Republic. The Emperors were usually well trained before leading, they often came from various families with some small tie to the original emperors Augustus and Julius, and the Senate was also sort of like in-between the Athenian Democracy and Philosophers in Plato's Republic, many of the Patricians being descendants of well educated plebs and not just a constant stagnant oligarchy, and it was only Tyrannical under a few Emperors and barely any of their reigns lasted more than 10 years.

Matt 14/09/19(Fri)02:29 No. 11801 ID: 71a0fa

It could work if the Philosopher Kings have a genetic disposition to Intelligence, But not just intelligence. They need to be noble, wise, and courageous. This could be achieved through eugenics.

PlutoniumBoss!Y1SVQJ54eA 14/09/21(Sun)09:57 No. 11806 ID: c1bebf


Genetic predisposition isn't enough to guarantee behavior in an individual, so no, that wouldn't work.

Anonymous 14/09/13(Sat)23:45 No. 11790 ID: 1b02b6 [Reply]

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The responses you get when they are randomly put on the spot is amazing.

Perfect moment for this is in an elevator. 1 on 1. Break the mystifying atmosphere of someone's nearby confined presence by posing the question:
Why is it so difficult for us to be our true selves around others and admit what we really are instead of creating a facade? Why is our real self stigmatized?

I asked 24 people over the course of a year. I wrote down all the responses.

8 of them didn't have a clue what I was talking about.
5 of them said that society would fall apart if we did.
2 of them said it happens as you get older [which I asked further: "then why does my dad lie all the time?"]
1 person said "I am my true self"
1 peson said "You're a weird one, aren't you?"
1 person pretended I never asked with no facial expression of acknowledgement.
1 person blamed their ego and said that their ego always rules their life no matter the situation.
1 person said "You're one of those wannabe smart people."
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Anonymous 14/09/18(Thu)06:15 No. 11798 ID: a580c7

>1 person said "I am my true self."
>1 person
That's someone I would get to know better. Could be lying or deluded, but still.

Anonymous 14/09/19(Fri)10:45 No. 11802 ID: d5241e

What do you think your response and reaction to a situation like that would be, OP?

Anonymous 14/09/20(Sat)05:00 No. 11803 ID: 1b02b6

I would love that person and just say "I know". It's clear why people start asking that stuff without caring: they want out of all this. We would have some common ground and I think it would feel great to know that someone thinks similarly to me. I guess Id put on a little bit of that social fakeness and use a bit of inflection in my voice and make facial expressions of acknowledgement to let them know that I understand them. If I didn't make any facial expression, it would be difficult for them to know we share common ground.

Anonymous 14/08/18(Mon)01:27 No. 11714 ID: f2ab1b [Reply]

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To hope is immensely moronic. Hope is the man's poison whereof he has deceived himself generations and generations. Only a fool would walk in the path of fire and hopes to come out unharmed.

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Anonymous 14/09/11(Thu)22:40 No. 11787 ID: 846aaf

Empiricism is perceptional and heavily influenced by one's experience. Therefore, NO!

You seem to be hasting to rush over and force your scientific theory. It is true that 'hope' could be classified as a psychological phenomenon; yet you can't treat such examples as a periodic table. Otherwise human beings could be predictable as fuck.

Anonymous 14/09/12(Fri)05:15 No. 11788 ID: eb89c4

That's not an argument against Empiricism at all. Let me lay it out for you in detail:

You assume that Empiricism is false. From this it follows that you can't prove that I'm currently interacting with you, that I exist, you exist, whatever you're using to post exists, etc. So the content of your argument contradicts its form.

Furthermore, Logic no longer holds, since it's derived rationally from empirical reality. Therefore, you cannot argue against Empiricism using Logic because that's self-contradictory.

And finally, yes, you cannot tell if something's real or not. There's no other criteria that you can use. Even if you make the smallest exception to the rule, you're already contradicting the whole thing. For instance, lets say someone says spirits are real in their traditional definition. If we analyze the definition logically, it soon becomes clear that anything could be real. Hence, all information is invalidated and it becomes impossible to know if something's real or not.

Anonymous 14/09/18(Thu)21:14 No. 11800 ID: 335ce3

I didn't say Empiricism is False. It is merely your interpretation of whatever you call "the reality". Given that your reality differs from mine, we don't hold the same ground when it comes to logic. That's where you have "axiom". That's why people call each other stupid or wacko shit brain. So, yes, we (humans) decline each-other all the time.

Anonymous 14/08/19(Tue)18:58 No. 11732 ID: aaad3e [Reply]

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I want to join the military to serve my fellow man against people who are motivated by obscure ideologies like political Islam.

It has been my goal for a long time. But on some level, I suspect I was trying to invalidate my eligibility to save myself some terror...and have an excuse.

But recently, I have been seeing mental health professionals.

I doubt I would be admitted if I was honest about the help I have sought. And, I've already lied on one defence form about not seeking psych help maybe.

The fact is, however, they can't really find out unless I admit. I take bipolar medication at the moment, but I don't really need it. I do, however, really like to have support when I'm depressed - but I can get that from psychologists in the military if need be, later on.

I don't really have any dysfunction other than I seem to be increasingly deteriorating in terms of intelligence. I am, however, really lazy when depressed.

SO what I am curios about, is whether I am actually fulfilling my ethical compulsion to help fight dirty religion by joining the military, or whether I'm just a hinderence. I'm Indian by ethnicity so I could probably pass as a middle easterner so that's probably valuable to my country too.

What are your thoughts?
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Anonymous 14/08/20(Wed)08:59 No. 11740 ID: f83844


I suggest you don't join for two reasons.

One, to kill and die for religion ideas is wrong because all religion of the world are fake. That is why religious teach is banned in all State and schools.

You are Indian, are your family not the peace loving Hindu?

Second, it's good you admitted yourself you have mental illness. This is very dangerous and when depression and high level of stress combines together during heavy battle, you will crack and go berserk, making you a liability. I don't see a happy ending for you if you join.

Let me see. You are not happy with your life and was thinking about suicide so why not join the army because you hate the Islam anyway? You be surprise just how many joined the military for this reason alone.

But if you would change your thinking as in fighting not for religious ideals but to defend yourself and your friends from evil invaders, that be good. Better be a hero than a coward that kill others because of hate.

Anonymous 14/09/17(Wed)04:52 No. 11796 ID: eedce0

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As privat soilder you will always become a tool to other peoples goals, wich you will most likly never find out or understand. So you have to ask yourself if you trust your political system enough to do what you belive is right. Countries dont spend money or send out soilders to free other people from dictatorship, they do it to make more money then they invested (more often then not even personal and not for the country).
Also you should be aware of the fact that being a soilder, even as officer is 90% sitting arround far away from home and wait.
And the cases were foreign soilders get greeted with joy, are very rare in history.

At the current situation it is a way to activly enforce democraty and americas (im guessing) ideologies. But like i said main interest in the use of soilders (aka you) will always be money/resources/power. America is losing money, thats the reason you see so many military activity in the last years, i mean obama startet 3 wars... so it could happen, that in 20 years, you find yourself invading another democratic country with the same base ideologies, because of economic reasons.

About the possibility of knowledge Anonymous 14/09/01(Mon)21:17 No. 11774 ID: 375575 [Reply]

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Recently i was reading Descartes "Metaphysical Meditations" and Kant´s "Critique of Pure Reason" (finished reading the introduction yesterday and going to Transcendental Aesthetics section soon) i got myself thinking: Kant did not pose any threat to Descartes methodical doubt, the question of the possibility of knowledge still holds and i did not found any good answers to that, so, what you /phi/ lurkers think? should i read more? what books you would recommend on the subject? thank you.

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Anonymous 14/09/07(Sun)22:34 No. 11781 ID: 073bd4

if you think rationality utterly and completely should be the basis and essence of knowledge then all you need to know is "fuck empiricists"

Anonymous 14/09/09(Tue)10:27 No. 11785 ID: 914c63

Read Hume.

Anonymous 14/09/11(Thu)22:06 No. 11786 ID: eb5b91

Every time I read Kant there comes a point where i realize i'm reading the thoughts of someone... it's like someone just clever enough to be dangerous. If he were just a little more clever, he would recognize some enormous fucking assumptions he's basing his bullshit on.

Even seeing his name infuriates and triggers many kunt puns and "i kant come up with a way to not be a colossal ahsshole to other people and wreck up the future for a bit".

sorry for least philosophical post ever, but man I fucking hate kant.

How to not give a fuck Dissonance intolerance 14/09/08(Mon)15:51 No. 11784 ID: aaad3e [Reply]

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Anonymous 14/03/02(Sun)05:26 No. 11146 ID: 600abd [Reply]

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The other day in religion class, my teacher played a sermon about Catholicism and stuff. The shortest I could put it is, "If there was no god, then the universe would have had to started somewhere, the big bang per say. If we could use a computer and go look at that explosion, or a simulation of, we'd be able to figure out the rate at which the universe expands. From this we'd essentially be able to figure out the future and then life would be meaningless, because our choices would already have been determined."

Any thoughts on this? I thought it was a pretty interesting standpoint, but was probably worded confusingly in order to sound smart and force people to think you know what you're talking about...

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Anonymous 14/09/03(Wed)15:19 No. 11778 ID: aaad3e

Spoiler alert: after camus you will still think life is worthless and pointless except you won't be content with it anymore, you'll want to commit crimes on impulses.

That being said, do it now, there are only so many tomorrows.

Anonymous 14/09/04(Thu)07:14 No. 11779 ID: 86e709

Jesus christ OP.
Your teacher isn't just stupid, he's a truly terrible person. I hope about 10 dozen flashing red lights went off in your head when he puked that half-baked excuse for intellectual laziness in your face and shat its subsequent devaluation of life and all of time and space down your gagging throat. Fucking hell, even my CCD ministers were more thoughtful and genuine than that guy.

There's a reason why the vatican thinks the american catholics are batshit insane, and it's that guy.

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What if you don't need an answer to such questions?


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