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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 ID: 4c1a8e [Reply] Stickied

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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:


Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.

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Anonymous 14/10/18(Sat)13:49 No. 11855 ID: 53826a


Yeah, Sandler's the shit.

Anonymous ## Mod ## 12/02/02(Thu)05:26 No. 5920 ID: 4fb7fa [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts] Stickied

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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.

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Anonymous 14/09/30(Tue)09:07 No. 11829 ID: 2576d3

No way guys. Akira did it the best because its conclusion was that you turn into a giant baby when a human becomes a God. In my mind, it beat everyone to the punch on that one.

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOU PILE OF FAGGOTS Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/09/09(Fri)04:51 No. 2371 ID: 175f07 [Reply] Locked Stickied

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We interrupt your scheduled bickering for this important announcement: Understanding /phi/

  • What this board is:
    • A place to discuss epistemology, ethics, aesthetics, metaphysics, and logic, in a general sense, or in an applied sense (in sex, science, vidya, your mother).
    • A place where not only is being a pretentious, hubristic dickhead is allowed, but is considered the norm.
  • What this board is not:
    • It is not /b/, /x/, or /rnb/.
    • A place to spew incoherent nonsense and verbal diarrhea.
    • A place to make claims with no justifications (and "because I say so" or "because you're gay" isn't a justification).
    • A place where the global rules do not apply.
An inability to follow these conventions will result in a warning!
Repeat offenders will be banned!

Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/12/04(Sun)05:06 No. 4980 ID: 4c1a8e

Dear faggots,
I shouldn't have to remind you, but if someone is posting something against the rules, please report it.

If you don't know how to report a post, please see our super-sugoi FAQ section on the front page.

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Anonymous 14/10/31(Fri)20:26 No. 11872 ID: c8a6a3 [Reply]

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We need to kill in order to survive.

What do you think?

Anonymous 14/05/02(Fri)13:39 No. 11293 ID: aaad3e [Reply]

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"Sheldon: Are you saying that you think a celebration pie is even remotely comparible to a Nobel Prize?

Penny: Well, they’re pretty tasty."

TO what degree are you motivated by the anticipation of pleasure, and to what degree norms?

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Anonymous 14/10/23(Thu)23:26 No. 11863 ID: 2f260d

I consider the acquisition of anything without use to be pointless. A bag of shit, a bouquet of flowers, a Nobel Prize... all are things equally useless to me as objects.

Anonymous 14/10/30(Thu)04:31 No. 11868 ID: 5acbd2

Well, the Nobel Prize comes with a lot of money. You might want to leave that one out of the list.

Anonymous 14/10/31(Fri)19:11 No. 11871 ID: 2f260d


Ah, yes. But that is like saying a bag of shit is worth something if it also comes with money. There are a lot easier ways to gain that amount of money than attempting to win a Nobel Prize.

Anonymous 13/12/16(Mon)08:56 No. 10977 ID: 492138 [Reply]

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what is the relationship, if any, between your soul and your genome?

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Anonymous 14/05/22(Thu)10:40 No. 11403 ID: c7a101

Gene expression can be modulated by your thinking.

It depends on what your stance is on the relationship between the mind and the soul.

Anonymous 14/05/23(Fri)12:16 No. 11406 ID: 86e709


Nice quackery though, I'm sure he'll sell a lot of books to people who don't know any better either.

Anonymous 14/10/30(Thu)22:36 No. 11870 ID: 324be6

If you become stressed (have stressful thoughts) your gene expression is affected. Fact.

Anonymous 14/07/09(Wed)18:31 No. 11556 ID: 6f3afd [Reply]

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I am attempting to discern the meaning of Nietzsche's superman. I know that it was an answer to nihilism in the wake of the death of God, but I am trying to define the properties of the superman. I plan to use the Kantian epistemological view of animal/human rationality and empiricism along with the statement that man is a rope between animal and superman to justify it. I have read Thus Spoke Zarathustra and The Gay Science as well as Critique of Pure Reason. What else should I read to develop a better understanding of the superman?

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Anonymous 14/10/20(Mon)17:49 No. 11857 ID: 71b89a

Heidegger's philosophy is the same.

He explains the superman as the "stamp of Being on becoming". It's the same as idea in Being and Time.

It basically just another version of enlightenment in the Buddhist sense of satori.

Read what Heidegger said about George Bataille's explanation of the "essential experience" in Nietzsche.

It takes Heidegger to make sense of Nietzsche.

Anonymous 14/10/21(Tue)06:28 No. 11860 ID: 5b5ccd

The overman is not so much an answer to nihilism as a traversal of it, an undergoing of it as Nietzsche is fond of putting it in Zarathustra. Kant would seem to be in irreconcilable opposition to this as one who believed that there is an absolute distinction between us and the animals, as he distinguishes between persons, who are always ends in themselves, versus those who are "altogether different in rank and dignity from things, such as irrational animals, with which one may deal and dispose at one's discretion."

Nietzsche wasn't exactly a Darwinist, he always found them too utilitarian and reductionist to deal with the profound interrelationships between the evolution of spirits and bodies. They were too English for him, representatives of that bulldog tradition which links Thomas Huxley to Daniel Dennett, but he was nonetheless a philosopher of developments and genealogies that stitch together our human present and our animal past.

It is as a knower of this past, as the considered reflection of our ripple of selfhood as it traverses the pond of the world, that we become the overman. As a local phenomenon of the all-too-human, we are constrained to the instinctual energies that rise and fall with our passing through the world, our will to egoistic power. That quote about man being a tightrope between animal and overman is indeed crucial. We, the jesters; we, who would be men, will tread upon our reason even when it goes beyond ourselves, when it takes us towards God and ridicule. This is the uniquely human power as Nietzsche sees it. Where Kant sees a repose in human dignity, a necessary respect for our personhood as subjects and sites of knowing, Nietzsche sees a necessary striving to tear down our self-knowledge, our insatiable desire to resist objectification and reduction to sites of the known. This desire, this taut distance between self and self-concept, is the strength of the bow that might direct us towards the overman. If you want to understand this terminology, I recommend Heraclitus, to whom Nietzsche obviously alludes, to the "backwards-turning bow" that underlies the co-genesis of opposites.

I haven't read The Gay Science, but Beyond Good and Evil is an excellent exploration of these themes that is probably clearer and less rhetorical than Zarathustra (though both are overly histrionic, such was Nietzsche's metier.) It will at least sharpen his views on his distinctness from Kantianism.

Anonymous 14/10/30(Thu)09:20 No. 11869 ID: bf2326

>Where Kant sees a repose in human dignity, a necessary respect for our personhood as subjects and sites of knowing, Nietzsche sees a necessary striving to tear down our self-knowledge, our insatiable desire to resist objectification and reduction to sites of the known. This desire, this taut distance between self and self-concept, is the strength of the bow that might direct us towards the overman. If you want to understand this terminology, I recommend Heraclitus, to whom Nietzsche obviously alludes, to the "backwards-turning bow" that underlies the co-genesis of opposites.
This seems to paint Kant and Nietzsche as a sort of Apollo/Dionysus dichotomy. Is this an accurate summation? I know Nietzsche's The Birth of Tragedy focused on Apollo and Dionysus and Nietzsche was heavily influenced by Greek tragedy.

Anonymous 14/10/01(Wed)01:11 No. 11831 ID: 1644d2 [Reply]

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Quote from the mod post

"A place to spew incoherent nonsense and verbal diarrhea"
Thats what philosophy is. Science absolutely destroys philosophy and spreading philosophies popularity in use by having this board exist is helping to keep society as a whole from using superior methods of problem solving that would help make the world a better place

Please mods and staff of 7chan delete this board


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PlutoniumBoss!Y1SVQJ54eA 14/10/03(Fri)05:32 No. 11835 ID: 465a65

Natural Philosophy certainly has been getting uppity since it started calling itself "science".

Anonymous 14/10/03(Fri)07:06 No. 11836 ID: eb89c4

Don't discard Philosophy. In general, philosophical writings are at least thought-provoking. I read them so I don't have to wander into Fiction.

But yeah, Philosophy is pretty out there. Humanities and Social "Sciences" in general are 99.9% contrived retardation.

Anonymous 14/10/29(Wed)22:43 No. 11867 ID: 88f2cf

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Science is just applied philosophy.


Feminism and men's rights Anonymous 14/10/19(Sun)16:14 No. 11856 ID: aaad3e [Reply]

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Patriarchy advantages women more than men. They recieve the benefactio of males, who are given the responsibility of providing for them.

Under this special privileging, women who rise to the top with economic power, recieve both this patronage and have tangible power. A man can at best get one, and it considerably more difficult, since a women can always sell her mere womenhood, her body, or benefit from the interdependent longing of a male.

A male, because of this expectation, cannot resort to this, while facing the same life difficulties. I believe we need to smash the patriachy by empowering men everywhere and liberating us from the tyrannic power bottoming of all those women who control men everywhere without ever having to do anything.

A man, burdened by his excess desire, who acts upon it, is then going to be punished for physically acting out on a woman. The pain of the punishment, or the guilt, is far worse than the short term loss of control a man feels in that moment. There should be concessions, just as there are for the mentally ill, to accomodate for his struggle.

For too long have women bounded from extorting male society in the past, to manipulating it with a complex victim playing in modern times. How does nobody stand back and think critically about all this?

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Anonymous 14/10/24(Fri)07:25 No. 11864 ID: eb89c4

He never mentioned feminism. Also, nice "no true Scotsman". Also, it is philosophy. Feminist philosphers in fact have written shit that's dumber, less articulate, more vague and much less logically substantiated.


Anonymous 14/10/28(Tue)23:39 No. 11865 ID: 86e709

>He never mentioned feminism.
Ok, fine, it has nothing to do with feminism
>Also, it is philosophy. Feminist philosphers in fact have written
Oh look, it is feminism after all.

I see your cunt and raise you this cock to get fucked with.

Anonymous 14/10/29(Wed)15:52 No. 11866 ID: eb586d

I don't get what you're trying to imply. Me bringing up feminism has nothing to do with his original post.

>Oh look, it is feminism after all.
No, it's not feminism after all. It's feminism because I brought it up. You disingenuous fucking subhuman.

Anonymous 14/10/20(Mon)20:07 No. 11858 ID: 2a526c [Reply]

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Hey, /phi/. I'm currently in my sixth semester studying filmmaking here in Brazil. Next term we'll all present our projects for the last short we'll make in college and I decided to finally stop being so damn insecure and go beyond comedy (which I love, but can't be the only thing I do). I decided to make something very personal, based on reflections about myself, those around me and my generation in general. I have absolutely no knowledge in philosophy but what I learned in college and I'm looking for books that will enrich my thoughts.
I'd like to talk about a certain emptyness I feel permeates life. I'm not sure whether that's the theme of the movie or just a bias through which the theme would flow.
I also want to pour all the fears and doubts my colleagues and I have at this stage of our lives: of unemployement, of not being good enough to compete in this though market, of general disbelief with both modern and traditional institutions, of failing (and the feeling of being a failure even though our adult lives have just started). I think that we (well, I, and maybe I'm just projecting it on everyone else) are finally figuring out who we are, that we are starting a quest to find where we fit.
And, on top of all that, there are all those questions specific to being a young adult on a post-modern society. The fear of rejection that, fueled by the possibilities brought by technology, manifests itself in a urge to reject first and in serial instant relationships. The projections of self we are bombarded with through social media and the feeling of inadequacy that comes from it. The constant anxiety of missing something in the accelerated rythm of our world, of being the one who didn't watch that iranian movie everyone's talking about, of not going to that party and seeing how much fun everyone had on pictures on Instagram.
I know I probably can't put that all in a 20 minute movie, but I think that, if I read more and reflect more, I can weave this loose ideas into something cohesive. I just started "Human, All Too Human" by Nietzsche and I'll read his "Ecce Homo" afterwards. What else should I get?

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