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Celsius ## Admin ## 09/12/28(Mon)07:43 No. 1 [Reply] Locked Stickied
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Now that this is a real board, it's time to lay down some rules:

1. Don't be a faggot

Thank you, and enjoy




Historian 12/01/25(Wed)04:59 No. 11345 [Reply]
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The good guys lost the Napoleonic wars.


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Historian 12/06/03(Sun)03:22 No. 12453
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>>12382
>George III
>Absolute monarch


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Historian 12/06/04(Mon)14:49 No. 12458

>>12382
Despotic doesn't mean bad, it just means absolute, tyrant like. In the actual definition it doesn't say anything about it meaning bad or mean.


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sp1000!!R1Awt3ZmOx 13/05/21(Tue)04:23 No. 13755
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The Napoleonic wars were almost needed
it serves as the point where europe gets up and starts to see the need to push forward into new boundaries I think without the wars you wouldn't have seen the economic boom of the Mid-late 1800s




Historian 12/05/07(Mon)03:17 No. 12337 [Reply]
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What are you /hi/storians thoughts on this ~200 year old ideology, nationalism?

Most people that I've met that has an interests for history tend to be anti-nationalistic. Is anti-nationalism a by-product for having more knowledge of the world history?


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Historian 12/05/19(Sat)07:18 No. 12405

>>12397

you are absolutely correct, I am in fact one of those people who is on the bottom with a certain degree of just that

however I was raised in that kind of environment, and I'm even now only beginning to really learn what it's like to not have that

the USA has been consistently playing along the lines of nationalism since it's inception, and howard zinn and noam chomsky have argued and pointed out numerous things that would definitely explain why the USA does imperialist things from the getgo, like I said, manifest destiny

many loyalists came to my country of canada during/after the revolution, due to fleeing or being kicked out, we've had our own fair share of things

many draft dodgers came to this country as well

the war of 1812 is an example of british and united states imperialism clashing over canada

however the natives were the primary losers as they were the proxies by which both sides fought a lot by and after the war expansion westwards by both groups occurred, further harming the native populations
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Historian 12/05/19(Sat)07:25 No. 12406

so, I'll say this

indentured "entitlement" servitude does not mean to say "I have a right to a decent life"

it means "I have the right to decide for others what a decent life is"

if one compares the two, corporate CEO's/government officials compared to even let's say.... welfare queens and hipsters?

one can see that it's easily preferable to have many hipsters for the same or lower cost than CEO's

has nobody ever heard the term power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely?


bias and selfishness are far too costly to ignore for positions of great power

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sp1000!!R1Awt3ZmOx 13/05/21(Tue)04:13 No. 13754
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anti nationalism is a product of the way
we are starting to less see our self's in the west as a unified country. we act like this is just a random assortment of people around us that we share no ties to. In the east most of the hyper educated still have this cultural identity so you see them as very proud in there country and are very pro Chinese/south Korean/Indian
Not hurr durr usa is number one nationalism but a sense of belonging and conman ties that is often the base of staunch nationalism




Country Assimilation Historian 13/05/20(Mon)20:17 No. 13751 [Reply]
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hi, im interested in empires

will there be no more empires? too many pesky small countries makes me sick

i am interest of things like poland-lithuana joining empires in 18th century but now in present day

hypothetically what if America and China coagulated? Could America send it's warships to Europe and hold it down while China puts a knife to the japan, korea, and the other asian countries?

also if all those shit sand nigger countries had an shred of intelligence they'd all come under one leader and become massive powerful country, but that can never happen


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sp1000!!R1Awt3ZmOx 13/05/21(Tue)04:08 No. 13753
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Well first there are no military empires any more but that doesn't mean much at all.Look at how our population has grown exponentially something will happen to solve this war or not. For example the way humanity is going we might see a pan Asian , Anglo sphere , and soviet block again in 50 years. Economics is the weird point because we are so intertwined its almost impossible for large scale war to happen and any way at this rate we will be in the end times soon enough and there will be a one world government then.
If we some how make it another 100 years I'm guessing space wars will be a thing that would be insane




Historian 13/05/06(Mon)07:24 No. 13732 [Reply]
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/hi/ guys
so I have this plaque in my bathroom from like 5 years ago.
My high school teacher liked me enough to give me this, it's just a piece of wood shaped like El Salvador, has the Salvadorian flag and crest on it, and even says El Salvador (see: picture)

She told me it was signed by the president (at the time), but I can't make out the writing. It looks like it says "Dacierbo" but the letters are so hastily written.

There's also a sticker that says something about upholstery, carpeting, and repairs or whatever.

Can anyone put a value to this? Is it just another ol' knick-knack to add to my collection?


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Historian 13/05/09(Thu)15:28 No. 13735

Salvador who?


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Historian 13/05/10(Fri)13:37 No. 13738

>>13735
some spik country or somethin'


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Historian 13/05/18(Sat)04:57 No. 13750

According to Google and Wikipedia, the President of El Salvador in 2006 was Antonio Saca.

Not that it matters because it looks like the signature went across that slick label and either never went on or rubbed completely off. The word next to "2006" is probably where the person signed it.

You'd probably have to take it to an appraiser to have what's left of the signature identified.




Humans naturally love memes! purveyor of the omnimeme 13/05/10(Fri)06:27 No. 13737 [Reply]
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Is life but a quest to find the one, eternally consistent meme?
Meme as in Dawkin's cultural memes, not cheezeburger memes.
Of course, the latter is a subset of the first.

Someone will promise to tell you what it is, in exchange for everything you control. It will happen again and again, because post-material scarcity, novel knowledge and information will be what's valuable.

SO here I shall share my meme, for the game-theoretic benefit of mankind, on /sci/. Never trade for an omni-meme, it will force it to be given freely, in love.


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Historian 13/05/12(Sun)11:30 No. 13741

>>13740

except there are a basis of memes that are required constantly for the system to function, now which are those?


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Historian 13/05/14(Tue)05:26 No. 13743

brains


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Historian 13/05/18(Sat)04:46 No. 13749

>>13741
You seem to be confused. A meme is a "unit" of learned or imitated behavior. Are you saying that there is a single learned human behavior that is required for a human to function?

There may be some basis to this, but it isn't a single constant. For example, a developing child has a certain window in which to acquire learned social behaviors in order to function in a society, as we know from the cases of children raised by animals.

However, there doesn't seem to be a constant. One must, for example, acquire a language during formative years in order to become fluent, but this doesn't mean there is a single best 'uber-language' that is ideal for human functioning.

Likewise, one must acquire a set of social skills during formative years in order to be able to function well in a society, but that doesn't mean that one single acquired social skill or set of skills is the most 'human'.




Historian 13/02/11(Mon)14:10 No. 13541 [Reply]
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The more and more I learn about WW2 the more I start to despise modern Jews for acting like the ultimate victims when, in actuality, members of "their tribe" are responsible for far more deaths. I'm in no way a holocaust denier but it's absolutely reproachable how even the more numerous Slavic deaths by the Nazis are simply, if it all, collateral damage in the eyes of the status quo.

It's amazing how moldable the mind of the average person actually is, and how seizing the media alone for ideological purposes can change society as a whole.


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Historian 13/05/16(Thu)19:30 No. 13745

>>13577
Fuck off, kike.


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Historian 13/05/16(Thu)19:46 No. 13746

To everyone saying "hurr durr op is ghey cus he insulted jews, our greatest ally.", why is questioning the Holocaust story's legitimacy grounds for automatic dismissal? Why are Jews in various parts of the world, namely Europe and Israel, campaigning to make "Holocaust denial" illegal? If it is so blatantly obvious that a historical event in fact happened the way it is generally accepted, then why does it need to be illegal to question? Why does the government need to put restraint against someone who questions and looks for a differing opinion on what happened?

For example: If I wanted to question the official story of the events surrounding the American Revolution, I'm sure no one would immediately try to silence me, or distance themselves from me. It is only when I question something regarding "God's chosen people" that everyone loses rationality and simply starts throwing insults at me for even daring to do such a thing.

(NOTE: People that are commonly referred to as "Holocaust deniers" do not actually claim that the Holocaust never happened. They simply question the truth of the official story of what happened. i.e. "Jews died in Nazi Germany but nowhere near 6 million." or "Jews were not systematically killed in gas chambers.", etc.


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Historian 13/05/18(Sat)02:27 No. 13748

"Jews died in Nazi Germany but nowhere near 6 million." or "Jews were not systematically killed in gas chambers.", etc.

since the holocaust is in fact the planned extermination of 6 million jews in WW2 by the nazi germans - any denial of this is denial of the holocaust

-fin.




Historian 13/05/17(Fri)21:11 No. 13747 [Reply]
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Did the bombing of Germany have any affect at all? Could we really say it was necessary? Wasn't it the ground battles that made all the difference in Germany's defeat?


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Historian 13/05/20(Mon)20:20 No. 13752

one way to win war is to defeat a country's will to continue fighting




Historian 12/06/29(Fri)20:35 No. 12695 [Reply]
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What does /hi/ think of Huntingdon's Clash of Civilizations theory?

Does it actually hold any water to you?


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Daniel 13/03/17(Sun)17:55 No. 13592

I do want to point out that in this map apparently only Transilvania and not all Romania is a part of Europe, and the rest of the country is under Islam (when the country as a whole is 98% Christian).

Maybe the West dosn't care or even wants the country to be split again. Not nice, not nice.


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Historian 13/03/19(Tue)02:39 No. 13595

>>13592
And Xinjiang is not part of China anymore and apparently he decided to preemptively give the senkaku islands to japan and jesusfuckingchristit'saromanianhidethesilverware.


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Historian 13/05/14(Tue)00:56 No. 13742

>>13592
>>13595
I live in a country that's not even colored in, how do you think that makes ME feel?




May Day Historian 13/05/01(Wed)09:24 No. 13728 [Reply]
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None of you historians remembers why the 1st of May is celebrated on May 1? Why, was it too long ago? Not long ago enough?

Americans don't celebrate May Day, but worry not: Your sacrifice is not forgotten. The rest of the world remembers.


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Historian 13/05/01(Wed)19:13 No. 13729

I will always remember it as a pagan holiday.


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Historian 13/05/02(Thu)08:47 No. 13730

Because it was the day the whole of modern civilization was nearly burned to a fine, crispy flaky crust?

http://www.space.com/20928-giant-sun-wave-nasa-video.html

Heh, nah, that happens all the time.


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Historian 13/05/03(Fri)23:19 No. 13731

For the Druids of the British Isles, May 1 was the second most important holiday of the year. Because, it was when the festival of Beltane held. It was thought that the day divides the year into half. The other half was to be ended with the Samhain on November 1. Those days the May Day custom was the setting of new fire. It was one of those ancient New Year rites performed throughout the world. And the fire itself was thought to lend life to the burgeoning springtime sun. Cattle were driven through the fire to purify them. Men, with their sweethearts, passed through the smoke for seeing good luck.




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