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Celsius ## Admin ## 09/12/28(Mon)07:43 No. 1 [Reply] Locked Stickied

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Now that this is a real board, it's time to lay down some rules:

1. Don't be a faggot

Thank you, and enjoy

Historian 14/03/25(Tue)05:57 No. 14218 [Reply]

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Hello everyone. I've been wondering, how did the German and Western Allied troops treat one another? More importantly, how did they treat the civilians during their respective occupations of Western Europe? Of course there were crimes committed in relatively small numbers, but on the whole. Where there any major events that showed camaraderie between the troops or civilians?

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Historian 14/03/27(Thu)19:33 No. 14229

>Were there any major events that showed camaraderie between the troops?
The Christmas Truce of WW1 would is a good example.

It's one thing for soldiers to ceasefire, it's another thing for them to cross no-mans land, exchange gifts, sing songs and have a good old game of football. It's an even more spectacular feat when you consider it was an unofficial act condemned by the higher ups and that it even happened the following year (on a smaller scale) despite orders explicitly expressing not to under the punishment of treason (death).

Historian 14/04/20(Sun)04:35 No. 14270


The battle for Castle Itter is a strange example of Wehrmacht troops interacting with political prisoners and American troops with both sides defending against an attacking SS formation. A number of prisoners had been held at Castle Itter in Austria, including a famous tennis star, until their guards departed and they assumed control - eventually seeking assistance from nearby allied forces. US forces would pair up with anti-nazi Wehrmacht Heer forces to defend the castle and rescue the prisoners. They fought against an attacking SS group from the 13th SS division until they were relieved by a stronger American tank force.

Its sometimes called "The Strangest Battle of World War II"

Historian 14/04/20(Sun)06:43 No. 14273

For the most part, Allied prisoners who surrendered to the Germans were treated in accordance with the Geneva Accords. The reverse was trues as well; Germans would go far out of their way to surrender to British or American forces rather than the Russians.

The common perception in Britain and America is that the average German in WWII was a foaming mad, demonic Nazi. This could not be further from the truth, especially in the Army; der Heers was descended from the old German Imperial Army, which was itself descended from the Prussian Army of Frederick II, the same army that crushed Bonaparte at Waterloo. The Nazis were generally loathed by the professionals of der Heers, especially the long service officers and troopers who had served in the Reichswehr, quite possibly the finest army in modern history.

Historian 13/09/03(Tue)21:19 No. 13908 [Reply]

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ITT biggest war criminals
inb4 hitler, himmler and other's well known guys

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Historian 14/03/25(Tue)19:54 No. 14221

War criminals is just something the losers in a war are called

Historian 14/04/20(Sun)04:38 No. 14271

except that is was people like "Butcher" Harris from the RAF and others like American general Curtis "bombs away" LeMay that planned major strategic and terror bombing campaigns, not necessarily the allied political leaders who weren't involved in tactical planning and decision making to that level. If you're going to criticize the allied strategic bombing campaign in Europe - or Japan, which was much more vicious and deadly - at the very least implicate the right people

Historian 14/04/20(Sun)06:30 No. 14272


Being a head of state like Churchill or Roosevelt is analogous to being a ship's captain. The actions of your subordinates are ultimately YOUR responsibility. Harris and LeMay envisioned and executed campaigns that were just as ruthless and evil as anything the Nazis or the Imperial Japanese military committed...but the generals couldn't have done so without the approval of Franklin and Winston. Ultimately, it is THEY who have earned the condemnation of history.

Historian 14/02/05(Wed)05:25 No. 14129 [Reply]

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How would other countries react if Norway, Finland, Denmark, and Sweden were to all conglomerate into a single functioning unit? How pissed would Russia be? Would Germany be equally nervous?

Could this new country Scandinavia not theoretically increase positive production through unification since it provides more incentives for investing into different areas for the wealthy?

Is something like this prohibited by EU, what if they did it anyways would people start embargoing them? Would other countries/regions possibly start doing the same thing elsewhere?

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>14255 anonomous 14/04/08(Tue)06:34 No. 14256

Exactly anon. check out the documentary, "The World Without US" its a real eye opener.

Historian 14/04/08(Tue)08:07 No. 14257

If there's one statement that's guaranteed to never be true, it's

>Vlad is right

Historian 14/04/20(Sun)04:23 No. 14269

Know where I can watch it?

Cant find the full movie anywhere.

Or should I just read the book?

Historian 12/06/29(Fri)20:35 No. 12695 [Reply]

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What does /hi/ think of Huntingdon's Clash of Civilizations theory?

Does it actually hold any water to you?

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Historian 13/06/12(Wed)04:29 No. 13805

EUROPE will change from 'westlische welt' to 'islamische staatenwelt' quite soon (during our lifetime) , Id give about 20 years for France, maybe 50 for Germany & not too much after this the rest of the europe,,

Historian 14/04/11(Fri)16:35 No. 14259

based north mexico (Hermosillo to be exact) is in the north american area, which is fitting because you can't seriously compare the north of mexico with the rest of mexico culturally. yay

Historian 14/04/20(Sun)04:11 No. 14268


Historian 14/04/04(Fri)05:25 No. 14242 [Reply]

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How much money does America and the EU give to second/third world countries to give people jobs in maintaining/developing their forests and such?

Imagine if we gave all our war budget to countries to renovate their shit and regenerate all the things that we are losing

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Historian 14/04/13(Sun)04:39 No. 14261

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Its okay son, no need to live in constant fear of those dastardly third worldians.

We'd just send in the 101st cosplay division to take the first world back, and life would go on.

Historian 14/04/18(Fri)14:10 No. 14266

Nearly all the billions of "money" the US "gives" other countries, is actually credit, we lend, to those countries, by force. Credit in the form of taxpayer revenue, which those countries must "spend", only with us, to buy specific weapons systems, from our private companies. Usually outdated ones we don't have a need for anymore. Usually weapons those countries don't want or already have warehouses full of & can't afford, which leave them riddled with debt. & more often than not, weapons systems we later wish they didn't have or use. So that's how our "aid" actually works. Those countries don't actually see a dime, and eventually become racked with debt to us, and have to give us bases on their land and other political rimjobs in compensation. It's nothing more than a clever way to take money from taxpayers, let the gov skim a bunch off the top, funnel the rest to private companies, which then use it to lobby politicians to make more laws requiring more subsidies benefitting them, and flood the unstable regions of the world with weapons while making a game out of destabilizing everything. The excuse for this was originally that in case of war, we'd still have those weapons plants running, and could then easily gear up for our own war effort. That hasn't been a relevant argument in 25 years, due to the pace of technology. It's just more corporate welfare and further worsening the birds nest of foreign obligations that stereotypical meddling jew Kissinger has us tangled up to our tits in.

This is why the US will never do more altruistic things with its stash of the worlds old money. It's a pyramid scheme, not a charity. Acts of charity do not fit with the barbaric European Zero-Sum worldview. For USA to be good, everywhere else has to be made to suck a proportional amount. You want altruism and beauty and philosophy, try some eastern cultures. The west is all about clawing each others eyes out for a scrap of cheese, like rats crammed in a cage. This is our grand unifying "western" philosophy, on indefinite loan from the Middle East, whose culture replaced our own because our ancestors were just dumb and gullible enough to buy it.

But USA is Little Europe. The most aggressive lunatics in Europe, itself the most aggressive culture in the world, came here for a fresh start, and as soon as they got here, they immediately recreated exactly all the cultural problems they just ran away from and amplified them. These are not intelligent people with a plan for a better future. These are people either chasing after or sitting on the worlds Old Money, (thanks england & jewry) fostering a culture based on perpetuating the pyramid scheme at all costs to pathetic hippie shit like life and liberty.

Lower your expectations. USA's brief dream of being a force for good in the world died with JFK. Message too long. Click here to view the full text.

Historian 14/04/20(Sun)04:10 No. 14267

Never thought of it like that before. Nice post

Historian 14/02/02(Sun)22:12 No. 14123 [Reply]

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What would happen if theoretically, all the states of the united states became city-states?

Temporarily removing all prescence of the United States from the world-wide stage, until the individual states who still wish to continue that effort must fund it. This would give states who wish to focus on growing the economy and not contributing to causes they have no control over, maybe?

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Historian 14/03/30(Sun)06:51 No. 14235

that explains so much

Historian 14/04/14(Mon)09:00 No. 14262

The United States is annexed by a world power.

Historian 14/04/17(Thu)21:57 No. 14264

Indeed, the US wpi;d become South Canada in a matter of months.

They'd have to kill off much of the people living there, but oddly enough nobody would care what happens to those self-centered antisocial assholes.

Architecture general Historian 14/04/02(Wed)03:01 No. 14239 [Reply]

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Discussion about historic buildings.
More to what I want to know, the GPO Dublin, essentially where the English buck was stopped by Mikey C and the boys, has three statues atop it: Hibernia, Mercury and Fidelity.
Problem is I cannot find any trace of "Fidelity" as a deity or otherwise in mythology or historic beliefs. The statue in question appears female, has a dog at its feet and a key in hand, It's my oppinion the statue is actually Hecaté (Goddess of Poison, witchcraft, household blessings, actually quite suitable for Ireland), what think?

Historian 14/04/02(Wed)12:43 No. 14240

Fidelity is probably a representation of Penelope.

Penelope and dogs are idealized faithful companions.

Historian 14/02/07(Fri)01:14 No. 14140 [Reply]

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is there any decent pseudo-historyfic of what would have happened if the Confederacy won the civil war to the point of WW1?

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Historian 14/02/07(Fri)05:45 No. 14145

i wish the states used manpower and ingenuity from civil war to invade britain and get a foothold for our european conquest... history would have been much better this way

Historian 14/03/25(Tue)19:58 No. 14222

That movie was made by a black guy. Wouldn't put too much weight to it

Historian 14/03/28(Fri)04:08 No. 14231

Still, it's a fun premise to consider.

Not that the agricultural south would have ever won against the industrialized north, but if for some odd reason, all the northerners just got bored, or perhaps got a glimpse of where this culture would wind up in another couple hundred years, and just up and left their jobs and homes and assets for the southerners to come try to make sense of, my guess is, everything in the north would have all just been strewn along the roadways toward the south, as the southerners got tired of trying to haul it all down. ...just like the abandoned garbage strewn all over the south today. Other than that, negroids, chinks, beaners would still be forbidden from education outside a bible, women would be kept around for breeding purposes only, and it'd basically be the white-people equivalent of the Taliban, itching at the trigger to fight anyone and everyone who dare pose a challenge to their flimsy tribal identity.

..so pretty much just like it is today.

Historian 13/12/01(Sun)00:05 No. 14047 [Reply]

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They say the winners write history

who is writing our current history?

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Historian 14/03/08(Sat)06:42 No. 14201

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The Jews

Historian 14/03/11(Tue)13:54 No. 14208

The muslims. Wait, no, I mean the moral majority. Actually, it is the degenerate homos. No, the BLACKS! In truth, it is women.

OP, I'll assume you refer to contemporary history. Then it seems obvious that it is in large written by the US and western Europe. I'm sure many Asian and African countries have their own cute histories, but at least up until very recently they did not how the academic nor political clout to get their stories counted. For instance, remember how Japan at one point had the world's 2nd largest economy and was predicted to overtake the US as number one eventually? Still, no one gave a shit about their historians. Because there was around 500 million US soldiers posted all over their little islands that made any claims they forwarded impotent.

Historian 14/03/25(Tue)19:53 No. 14220


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