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1920s Albania forum game Historian 15/07/10(Fri)17:59 No. 14675 [Reply]
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http://z13.invisionfree.com/eRegime/index.php?act=idx

TL;DR: 1920s Albania forum game. Country is very poor and backward but there's also tons of political intrigue going on, therefore it can be fun. Players can join as whatever: cabinet members, miscellaneous politicians of Muslim or Christian faith, army commanders, tribal chiefs, religious authorities, student radicals, etc.

To quote sign-in thread:
>There are no set rules or list of actions; a player sends a private message to the GM saying what he or she wishes to do that turn, and the GM makes a list of plausible outcomes and subjects them to a random number generator to see which one occurs. There is detailed information on the situation inside the country in various fields of life, from the condition of its armed forces to the state of its cultural facilities. Players will generally be briefed each turn as to how their actions went as well as the situation they are in (e.g. how soldiers under their command are doing, how their efforts to organize people in a region are progressing, and so on.)


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Historian 16/01/23(Sat)17:15 No. 14837

This is still ongoing. It is currently 1931.

The same forum also has a French Revolution game GMed by someone else if anyone is interested in that.




Historian 15/10/14(Wed)23:01 No. 14787 [Reply]
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Hi,

Can anyone recommend me some essential books relating to public history?

Thanks in advance


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Historian 15/12/07(Mon)11:40 No. 14818

H.G. Wells

The Outline of History


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Historian 16/01/19(Tue)09:31 No. 14833

Youtube - Toggle Video
  start looking at topics, while this seems kind of specific, it starts with late rome and ends with the end of the viking area (when things finally settle down a bit) and extremely interesting, I learned about the merovingians finally from it, turns out that guy from the matrix and his wife is a kind of nod to clovis of the franks and his family too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC8JcWVRFp8&list=PL77A337915A76F660


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Historian 16/01/19(Tue)09:33 No. 14834

Youtube - Toggle Video
  given the about 700 year time period he covers, he covers islam and christianity as well, and goes into *depth* with islam and christianity's origins politically/historically, he's really good
and here's a talk "the history of the celebrity chef"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFzRSwX3Fs


Paul Freedman (Yale University) presented, “European Slavery and Serfdom in the Middle Ages,” as part of the Working Group on Comparative Economics Bound Labor 2014-2015 series. Participants in the 2014 autumn symposium, "Consent, Contract and Bound Labor in a Comparative Perspective," confronted institutional solutions in three different economic contexts: Antiquity, the Middle Ages and the Modern Period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQNws61f0js




Historian 14/02/05(Wed)05:25 No. 14129 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
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How would other countries react if Norway, Finland, Denmark, and Sweden were to all conglomerate into a single functioning unit? How pissed would Russia be? Would Germany be equally nervous?

Could this new country Scandinavia not theoretically increase positive production through unification since it provides more incentives for investing into different areas for the wealthy?

Is something like this prohibited by EU, what if they did it anyways would people start embargoing them? Would other countries/regions possibly start doing the same thing elsewhere?


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Historian 15/12/18(Fri)16:09 No. 14820

Sweden? Don't you mean the Caliphate?


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Historian 15/12/21(Mon)21:12 No. 14821

>>14777
If you let the evil petrochemical industry have its way with your rectum, you're still going to get screwed by the evil financial industry. The latter is going to have its way with you no matter what you do, so it really just depends on how many people you want to violate your anus.


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Historian 16/01/16(Sat)21:47 No. 14832
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>>14150
>id love to see one last country...

Bhutan
The motherfucking Sauds
vast parts of India

come to my mind




Historian 14/01/29(Wed)04:43 No. 14113 [Reply]
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at what point in history did you like the united states the most?

any particular reason for your answer?


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Historian 15/10/12(Mon)23:13 No. 14778

>If they gained larger support, who knows how WWII would have progressed?

If the Nazis had won Europe and corrupted America, would the Soviet proxies and apparat in the U.S. have been violently purged?


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Historian 15/11/14(Sat)15:45 No. 14800

>>14778
>If the Nazis had won Europe and corrupted America
Since the same fat cats were controlling German as they already controlled USA, it wouldn't have been much different from today. Hitler would have been assassinated and things would have slowly cooled down, with bankers, arms dealers, oil businessmen and such doing what they do. Worst case scenario Europe would be much like Middle East is today, a flaming part of earth that is constant fighting over what part belongs to who, but certainly USA soil would be much the same it is today.


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Historian 15/11/27(Fri)08:49 No. 14804

>>14800
>Since the same fat cats were controlling German as they already controlled USA
Yeah, those joos were in absolute control of Germany.




Historian 15/12/21(Mon)21:45 No. 14823 [Reply]
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isn't history a mad thing? it's like look at this crazy shit these people did and they'd do it again and they're doing it now. then its like, 99% chance none of it matters when you die so why would bother? its like, have humans changed at ALL? i mean really have they? I don't think so, it's only our environment that changes, technology and urbanization are the present state but if we were broken up into small, SPACED cities without modern transport and communication or we'd be blowing eachother up to smithereens, prove me wrong


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Historian 16/01/05(Tue)23:46 No. 14825

First write a coherent sentence, and then stop writing the way a 12 year old girl talks...




The Present Political System Is Not Conducive To Good Scientifc Pursuit Nazi Icktor 15/12/06(Sun)22:26 No. 14816 [Reply]
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If the present social system is non-Christian and Christianity is true then the status quo is not conducive to good scientific pursuit. I know that the United States recently made lawful homosexuality and I know that Jesus Christ exists by Kurt Gödel's and Anselm of Canterbury's valid and true ontological arguments. Therefore, the present system is not great for abundance, entertainment, or pastime of the sciences.

My credibility is that I wrote the syllogistic proof showing that The Hodge Conjecture is true. However, I haven't written a function for it. Also, I graduated high-school at age 16.

I do think that as the most superior Dinaric-Aryan-Mayan (or "German Guatemalan") of IQ 22,222 I do think that I could run the present world and its structures as dictator. Certainly the friendly dictator of The Nazi Party of Guatemala.

Argue with me.


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Nazi Icktor 15/12/06(Sun)22:31 No. 14817

Execute or make commit suicide Sean Gallagher.
Execute or make commit suicide Wilfrido Palacios.
Execute or make commit suicide Donald Keyes.
Execute or make commit suicide Tom Hasseloff.


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Historian 15/12/10(Thu)01:10 No. 14819

Before I start arguing with you can you shed some light on the Guatemala Nazi party?

Is that the party uniform?
Are you currently the prime example of the master race?
Are the fly paper strips part of the mystique of the party, or are they there just to catch flies?
Are you allowed to own a cupboard or shelf in the Guatemala Nazi party?

You seem like a slack ass if you can write a proof for the Hodge Conjecture but you haven't written a function for it yet...please explain.

Please respond and I will be happy to discuss this with you.




Historian 15/06/08(Mon)05:47 No. 14628 [Reply]
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How would the Japanese have colonized the western coast if they had done so before the Europeans?


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Historian 15/08/14(Fri)04:17 No. 14722
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>>14707
Yeah at several points, China had gigantic fleets of enormous ships that utterly dwarfed anything the europeans had. Even as recently as the 1400s, they were on the prowl, and lucky for europe, when the chinese rounded the cape under Africa, they didn't keep going north forever, or they'd have certainly stumbled upon the french & brits taking pot shots at each other and destroyed them completely. Instead they went west and discovered murrica, discovered a shitload of cool tropical islands, made trade everywhere they could, spread goods and culture and technology and made out like kings.

Given the archaeological similarities between discovered works in the americas & elsewhere in the world, & how long there have been boats in this world, it's a pretty safe bet that individuals from everywhere have been steadily, continually "discovering" the americas ever since humans learned boatbuilding from neanderthals and set out on the water.


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Historian 15/08/25(Tue)08:53 No. 14733

>>14628
With great difficulty, since the west coast has been pretty steadily populated for about 15,000 years, by many, many cultures each more experienced than the last, well-seasoned in the most brutal and effective warfare tailored to the land and environment.


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Historian 15/08/27(Thu)20:34 No. 14738

>>> 14733

uhhhh...what are you talking about?


There is some evidence of Chinese contact with Western South America. A bit of pottery and chickens I think is what is boils down to. Likely following the island chains across the Southern Pacific. Not sure that would have ever been a conquest priority for them or Japan. China sat on and controlled the Spice Road the largest and most profitable trade route in history. They had no need to trade extensively with isolated island villages and extremely distant cultures on the opposite side of the ocean when they had the entire eastern hemisphere from Europe to South East Asia tied into their trade network.

The Europeans "found" North and South America by fucking accident. They were trying to find a cheaper way to trade with China and India that didn't involve all the trade middlemen between Europe, the Middle east, Persia, Afghanistan, the Steppe etc etc.

Why waste time conquering incredibly distant lands when you are too busy securing the trade network that has already made you and your ancestors incredibly wealthy, while other cultures wipe each other out trying to get cheaper or larger access to it?




Ukraine & Belarus (Belorussia) and their mythical nationalisms Historian 15/06/06(Sat)06:11 No. 14625 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
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Both Belarussian and Ukrainian nationalism are so misguided. They side with the Western, Latin occupiers (Poland, Lithuanian, Austria-Hungary) and ignore the fact that Belarussians and Ukrainians are part of Rus. They have more in common with the so called "Great Russians" of the Russian Federation than with Westerners.

Why is this? Why do they love their myths so much?

Nationalists lie, and one would be remiss to think that Russian nationalists are immune. But through a purely historical analysis, one can see the holes in the nationalist movements of Ukraine and Belarus. The departure from Rus which is present in both is not only a betrayal of ancestors but a change of identity. Ukrainian and Belarussian nationalism are far more Polish, far more Lithuanian, far more Austrian, than they are Ukrainian and Belarussian.

Ukrainians and Bealrussians are in fact Russians who lived under Western European rule. That is the only difference between them and Muscovy. Why embrace the foreign chains? Why deny one's identity in favor of a foreign force? Why seek to create weak, poor states continually begging for alms from the West? Why not re-unite with the Russian Federation to restore Rus?


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Historian 15/10/31(Sat)11:44 No. 14797

>Ukrainians and Bealrussians are in fact Russians who lived under Western European rule. That is the only difference between them and Muscovy.
What's then the difference between Ukrainians and Belarussians? Why do Ukrainian nationalists not pretend to include Belarus in their nation (or vice versa)?
And if Kievan Rus needs to be reunited so badly, why shall it be around Moscow and not old capital? Could it be because it were northeastern principalities who broke off from Kyiv's rule first?


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Historian 15/11/29(Sun)09:56 No. 14805

so what we're saying is that the superior rus broke off to give the inferior old rus some time to prove that they can manage on their own and when that failed putin gloriously decided in his benevolence to help out the purest of the novo rus in their quest for freedom from the ties of the past?


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Historian 15/12/02(Wed)04:17 No. 14811

>>14805
More like the superior rus broke off from the inferior rus, the inferior rus then collapsed, a bunch of criminals acquired its assets, sold them off to furriners (thereby bankrupting future generations), then started attacking superior rus to try and distract the few non-drunk inferior rus citizens from seeing what they've done.

Its like when the US invaded Iraq, to distract the biscuits and gravy eating citizens from realizing what Cheney was doing. That worked so well they still haven't figured it out.




Historian 14/05/17(Sat)18:22 No. 14299 [Reply]
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If you're island government was insolvent and dependent on another country for regular multi-million dollar bailours, and you were a politician interested in fixing everything...what would you do? Country has no exceptional resources - just farm land but subject to the other countries law as an 'external territory'. I'm thinking it could declare independence and become a tax haven. I don't know if that works anymore given money laundering laws or whatever. Other options?


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Historian 15/09/29(Tue)07:14 No. 14763

Not that the liberal middle and upper class are immune to their own versions of social programming. But at least they are comforted by a smug condescending blanket of self-righteousness and a false sense of intellectual superiority.


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Historian 15/09/29(Tue)08:16 No. 14764

>>14763

Can't say I disagree with you. The hypocrisy can run deep and thick in both cases.


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Historian 15/11/11(Wed)03:45 No. 14799

The Island that I can think of is Puerto Rico. And good luck secceding from Múrica




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