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Historian 14/02/05(Wed)05:25 No. 14129 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
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How would other countries react if Norway, Finland, Denmark, and Sweden were to all conglomerate into a single functioning unit? How pissed would Russia be? Would Germany be equally nervous?

Could this new country Scandinavia not theoretically increase positive production through unification since it provides more incentives for investing into different areas for the wealthy?

Is something like this prohibited by EU, what if they did it anyways would people start embargoing them? Would other countries/regions possibly start doing the same thing elsewhere?


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Historian 16/01/16(Sat)21:47 No. 14832
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>>14150
>id love to see one last country...

Bhutan
The motherfucking Sauds
vast parts of India

come to my mind


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Thach 16/02/22(Mon)02:19 No. 14841

the escandiavians of the 21 centhury are pussys and homo-femen defenders, theyre can not do nothing useful or belic


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Historian 16/05/15(Sun)17:03 No. 14857
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Dane here, a little late to the conversation.
Firstly, while the idea looks good on paper, it doesn't have a snowflake's chance in hell given the current socio-political climate of Scandinavia. That is to say, while your average Dane, Swede and Norwegian can get along just fine, our upper middle classes (the people who are needed to act of the 'glue' of such a union) would be at each others throats, and indeed already are to some degree. You've likely already seen examples of Swedish journalism and debate culture, and likely think it complete madness - so ask yourself if you would ever want to merge your country with people like that?

I will leave you with this small example of a moderate Danish/Swedish televised debate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arjJmqDrUUI




Ukraine & Belarus (Belorussia) and their mythical nationalisms Historian 15/06/06(Sat)06:11 No. 14625 [Reply]
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Both Belarussian and Ukrainian nationalism are so misguided. They side with the Western, Latin occupiers (Poland, Lithuanian, Austria-Hungary) and ignore the fact that Belarussians and Ukrainians are part of Rus. They have more in common with the so called "Great Russians" of the Russian Federation than with Westerners.

Why is this? Why do they love their myths so much?

Nationalists lie, and one would be remiss to think that Russian nationalists are immune. But through a purely historical analysis, one can see the holes in the nationalist movements of Ukraine and Belarus. The departure from Rus which is present in both is not only a betrayal of ancestors but a change of identity. Ukrainian and Belarussian nationalism are far more Polish, far more Lithuanian, far more Austrian, than they are Ukrainian and Belarussian.

Ukrainians and Bealrussians are in fact Russians who lived under Western European rule. That is the only difference between them and Muscovy. Why embrace the foreign chains? Why deny one's identity in favor of a foreign force? Why seek to create weak, poor states continually begging for alms from the West? Why not re-unite with the Russian Federation to restore Rus?


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Historian 16/04/21(Thu)09:57 No. 14849

>>14848
>legitimate
lolno


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Historian 16/05/13(Fri)22:38 No. 14855
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Historian 16/05/13(Fri)22:40 No. 14856
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Historian 15/10/14(Wed)23:01 No. 14787 [Reply]
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Hi,

Can anyone recommend me some essential books relating to public history?

Thanks in advance


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Historian 15/11/18(Wed)15:55 No. 14802

>>14798
woah, i just bought those sunglasses! wonder if i subconciously saw them here before i bought them.. neato


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Historian 15/12/07(Mon)11:40 No. 14818

H.G. Wells

The Outline of History


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Historian 16/04/25(Mon)07:13 No. 14853
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The only American history book you'll need. A People's History Of The United States by Howard Zinn. Link: http://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html




Historian 12/06/07(Thu)01:08 No. 12470 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
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So is the Islamic invasion of Europe an intentional act being perpetrated by a multitude of interest groups in the Arab world.

Or they are invading Europe because the laws are so lax, Africans are too poor to do so, and Asiatics are in their own realm.

The dude in germany getting beat up by turkish immigrants for wearing a german immigrants got me thinking. Plus this issue started late 90s and just seems to be rolling out of control.


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Historian 14/12/21(Sun)07:46 No. 14492

>>14490
I think, the thing is, if we from the outset just said, "WOAH", or "WOAH + GTFO", then we'd have every other nation on earf and the UN and every islamic wacko in the world saying we're the new Nazi's and how dare we discriminate and oppress well-meaning religious people and blah blah blah. But if we say, "ok, fine, come on in." and then they fucking flood in and wreck the place up and start chopping heads off, well then we can respond with "WOAH + GTFO + TRAINCARS + FIRE THE OVENS" or whatever we need to.

What I'm saying is, we can't just open with that. We need to give Muslims enough rope to hang themselves with, which we've done, and they seem to be getting quite comfortable with putting around their necks.

So I think it's going quite well, in fact. The worse it gets, the better off we'll be for it when push comes to shove.


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Historian 15/01/06(Tue)01:51 No. 14499

during the last few years muslims have started to use imageboards and they are everywhere now.

On niggertits kc and even 8chan it is really annoying.

This seems to be one of the few muslim-free imageboards left.


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Historian 16/04/23(Sat)16:41 No. 14852

>>12481
implying
> > >




Historian 15/04/17(Fri)20:37 No. 14579 [Reply]
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When did war stop being glorious?

In the past people joined the war with intention of gaining honor.

I reckon it was the Civil war that really ended the glory of war. I think it has something to do when warring countries ceased to respect eachother.


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Historian 15/05/04(Mon)01:34 No. 14603

>>14585
>I should also mention that in early gun battles shooting to miss was as common as it was in WW1, turns out that without an extreme propaganda system people don't like killing each other for fear of personal safety and distaste
It wasn't the propaganda system that made people shoot each other (though it did make them want to shoot each other). It was when the British came up with the great idea of shaping their targets like actual people rather than using the traditional round bullseye every other country was using that helped make their recruits less sensitive to the experience. Until then the only recorded humanoid targets used were by generally nerfarious people using prisoners (initially live) for a combination of training, indoctrination and instilling fear in their own troops.


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Anonymous 15/05/12(Tue)07:59 No. 14607

War was never truly glorious to begin with. Generally power-hungry people, with a lot of influence and money, are able to paint war as being glorious. By doing this, they can get more people to use as pawns to fight wars for them.


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Historian 16/04/22(Fri)06:03 No. 14851

I think the Crimean war can also be seen as the end of these glory days. Following the war Russia could no longer use religion as an excuse to invade the Balkans, so war is going to be solely for political gain if they choose to invade. Also, the letters and propaganda that returned home from the soldiers/journalists was mostly criticizing the organizations of their respective army, as well as their leadership in general. Most people began to see the atrocities of warfare at this point and knew that war wasn't as romantic as many made it out to be.




1920s Albania forum game Historian 15/07/10(Fri)17:59 No. 14675 [Reply]
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http://z13.invisionfree.com/eRegime/index.php?act=idx

TL;DR: 1920s Albania forum game. Country is very poor and backward but there's also tons of political intrigue going on, therefore it can be fun. Players can join as whatever: cabinet members, miscellaneous politicians of Muslim or Christian faith, army commanders, tribal chiefs, religious authorities, student radicals, etc.

To quote sign-in thread:
>There are no set rules or list of actions; a player sends a private message to the GM saying what he or she wishes to do that turn, and the GM makes a list of plausible outcomes and subjects them to a random number generator to see which one occurs. There is detailed information on the situation inside the country in various fields of life, from the condition of its armed forces to the state of its cultural facilities. Players will generally be briefed each turn as to how their actions went as well as the situation they are in (e.g. how soldiers under their command are doing, how their efforts to organize people in a region are progressing, and so on.)


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Historian 16/01/23(Sat)17:15 No. 14837

This is still ongoing. It is currently 1931.

The same forum also has a French Revolution game GMed by someone else if anyone is interested in that.


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Anonymous 16/04/21(Thu)22:06 No. 14850
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>Makes Post about a fucking shithole
>Albania is a shitty country
If you make a post about the a shithole then that makes you a shithole dweller yourself you Phaggot.
Off to kebab shitholes you go ;)

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)




Historian 16/03/24(Thu)05:48 No. 14843 [Reply]
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I know I should be reasonable, and that in reality this sort of thing is to be expectable
but it's never quite like that, this is crazy
absolutely fucking nuts, in that sort of "damn silly thing from the balkans" style of story about bismarck predicting WW1
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB107/iraq03.pdf


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Historian 16/03/24(Thu)05:50 No. 14844
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here's another one, not quite as crazy, point 7, on the 2nd last page, is pretty interesting
http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB98/octwar-70.pdf


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Historian 16/03/25(Fri)23:32 No. 14845

Keep in mind the "Asad" they're talking about is Bashir al-Assad's father. Autocracies often pass power down family lines. I expect the same thing to happen in Russia once Putin starts getting decrepit in a few years.


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Historian 16/04/03(Sun)13:44 No. 14847

yeah I'm just so amazed that it's this consistent, usually the situation changes a little more you know?
but they really did a good job of keeping the middle east in stasis while the rest of the world went along doing its thing




Historian 14/01/29(Wed)04:43 No. 14113 [Reply]
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at what point in history did you like the united states the most?

any particular reason for your answer?


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Historian 15/10/12(Mon)23:13 No. 14778

>If they gained larger support, who knows how WWII would have progressed?

If the Nazis had won Europe and corrupted America, would the Soviet proxies and apparat in the U.S. have been violently purged?


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Historian 15/11/14(Sat)15:45 No. 14800

>>14778
>If the Nazis had won Europe and corrupted America
Since the same fat cats were controlling German as they already controlled USA, it wouldn't have been much different from today. Hitler would have been assassinated and things would have slowly cooled down, with bankers, arms dealers, oil businessmen and such doing what they do. Worst case scenario Europe would be much like Middle East is today, a flaming part of earth that is constant fighting over what part belongs to who, but certainly USA soil would be much the same it is today.


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Historian 15/11/27(Fri)08:49 No. 14804

>>14800
>Since the same fat cats were controlling German as they already controlled USA
Yeah, those joos were in absolute control of Germany.




Historian 15/12/21(Mon)21:45 No. 14823 [Reply]
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isn't history a mad thing? it's like look at this crazy shit these people did and they'd do it again and they're doing it now. then its like, 99% chance none of it matters when you die so why would bother? its like, have humans changed at ALL? i mean really have they? I don't think so, it's only our environment that changes, technology and urbanization are the present state but if we were broken up into small, SPACED cities without modern transport and communication or we'd be blowing eachother up to smithereens, prove me wrong


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Historian 16/01/05(Tue)23:46 No. 14825

First write a coherent sentence, and then stop writing the way a 12 year old girl talks...




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