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Bible as Philosophy Anonymous 15/08/07(Fri)15:58 No. 12256 ID: a500ab [Reply]
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Isn’t... the Bible... just like the old philosophy plays of Plato and stuff... where they’d make up characters in parables and plays to explain the right way to act and the way the world worked... as opposed to the written word of a God nobody has ever seen


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fearofstupid 15/08/14(Fri)21:32 No. 12266 ID: cb07aa

bible is very violent.

dont read violence.

violence in violence out.

although the worst violence of all... prevention of violence... is the highest of all worst violences. obviously.


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Anonymous 15/08/14(Fri)21:57 No. 12267 ID: 358f52

Depends. In reality? Yeah, that's basically what they are. But the way the people who came up with those stories saw it was that they were real. You don't find boring, droll genealogical trees in stories that people don't think are very real. It's clear that whoever came up with them originally tried to convey what they saw as the truth. It may not be true, but that doesn't make the lessons we can learn from The Bible any less relevant.

Just because they viewed it as something real doesn't mean we have to discard the whole thing. I don't buy it, and yet I still love reading stories from there. Proverbs and the Wisdom of Sirach being two of my main favorite books.


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Anonymous 15/12/05(Sat)09:41 No. 12352 ID: 1944a6

Did you ever read the original Bible? Gospel of Jesus.

they are the people of Church, in fact they were blind to the Aramaic language, so that they translate the bible with ambiguous.




Divination Anonymous 15/10/22(Thu)10:01 No. 12302 ID: 6c2737 [Reply]
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What are your thoughts about divination?

I used to read a lot for people, astrology, tarot, etc, but I stopped after I realized that these people should be able to handle themselves without me given them "affirmations" and also when you do magic, it turns out the cards are flipped because of a spiritual force, however usually unidentified, but yet just a slight chance, nothing more. To base your decisions on these readings is a bad idea, and especially when you become prone to relying on these means to figure out how your day is going to "go down" or whatever.

I keep getting banned from /x/ on 4chan for posting all the time, especially for arguing on a divination board, where they were talking about a "curse" the put on the "shit-posters" and it was either me or this other dude, but I troll them and post how divination is a black magick spell for being impatient, ulterior motives, and and throw out ideas like, if you look in the future you miss out on the present when the time comes, then get banned. This place is nice no one is angry or forcing themself to be right the whole time, and people actually discuss ideas...


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Anonymous 15/11/02(Mon)10:58 No. 12316 ID: 0fb81b

>This place is nice no one is angry or forcing themself to be right the whole time, and people actually discuss ideas...

Wrong.




Anonymous 15/10/23(Fri)22:15 No. 12307 ID: 0fb81b [Reply]
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Sometimes you have to write messages anonymously in public places to be heard.

Let’s consider something…

Jesus is the Sun of God in the heavens above; the light of the world. He dies and 3 days later is born again on Dec. 25, rising back into the northern hemisphere, making the days longer, and giving you warmth, comfort, and security away from the predator-filled night.

If this was said often enough by enough people, you would eventually believe it.

Even Hitler, altho cruel, was intelligent enough to notice and declare aloud that if one who has influential power says propaganda often enough, others will eventually believe it.

Hence, he convinced a vast number of people to kill millions.

Let’s digress.. Money seems to be the driving force of everything at this time, doesn’t it?

It seems everyone wants more and more and more of it, not considering that they may already have enough to sustain their own life.
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Anonymous 15/11/01(Sun)11:44 No. 12308 ID: 358f52

>Jesus is the Sun of God in the heavens above;

He's not the "sun of god". He's not a sun god.

>He dies and 3 days later is born again on Dec. 25

Wrong again. December 25th and most of the Christian holidays were made Christian holidays because it made it easier for pagans to convert. They were holy days to pagans in Europe. So to expand there it became easier to go "alright, rather than December 25th being for your god, we'll celebrate his birthday today. Deal?" They have no relation to when Jesus was born/died.

>If this was said often enough by enough people, you would eventually believe it.

Not necessarily. A lot of people saying something is true doesn't make it actually true. At least not anyone who cares about critical thinking.

And that's just the fucking start. Everything else you said was just as rambling and incoherent.


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Anonymous 15/11/02(Mon)03:15 No. 12313 ID: 0fb81b

>>12308

First thing to note here is that "You would believe it if..." was not intended for those intelligent enough not to sway to the persuasion of such rhetoric.

The Jesus part was just an alternative rambling no different than that which is spewed in churches. Altho it's an idea much more possible than anything a church says, if it was said often enough by enough (influential) people, more than likely it would have been the message that missionaries proclaimed in place of what they normally do. The point that was made to believers is that they believe basically anything they are told.

>And that's just the fucking start. Everything else you said was just as rambling and incoherent.

The ability to believe anything you are told if said often enough is a truth about the average character of a human, which is how Hitler got so many (not all) to fulfill his agenda. The rest (if you even read it) was an example of this behaviour; a thorough example of the kind of thing that humans can/will do.

I went to a church today to see how people reasoned. I was literally shocked how many people said "that's a good question" or "I haven't thought of that before" to the things I had to say/ask.

It never ceases to amaze me that, even on a forum of anonymity, there can exist people such as yourself who reason so poorly. I literally have to explain myself to the strictest detail on here to relieve myself from having to cover the tiniest details that were over-analyzed/mis-read/under-read.




Universally Preferable Behavior Anonymous 14/05/07(Wed)23:06 No. 11322 ID: 180d0f [Reply]
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An attempt to prove secular ethics.

http://cdn.media.freedomainradio.com/feed/books/UPB/Universally_Preferable_Behaviour_UPB_by_Stefan_Molyneux_PDF.pdf

"UPB in a Nutshell:

1. Reality is objective and consistent.

2. “Logic” is the set of objective and consistent rules derived from the consistency of reality.

3. Those theories that conform to logic are called “valid.”

4. Those theories that are confirmed by empirical testing are called “accurate.”

5. Those theories that are both valid and accurate are called “true.”
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Anonymous 15/09/06(Sun)13:10 No. 12279 ID: 37576e

Just because something is logically valid doesn't make it true.

"All squares are triangles to the tenth power
All triangles to the tenth power are cats with wings.
Therefore, all squares are cats with wings."

perfectly valid but not true obviously. logic just reduces arguments to sentences comparing classes of things and applies rules to valid class relationships. there are a lot of ideas that are not valid logically but can be true, and a lot of theories that are logically sound but are false. my example illustrates that.

our perception of facts is entirely fluid. remember: we used to consider the fact that the sun orbited the earth as fact. so just because we perceive something as a fact, that doesn't make it entirely true. our reality changes as we gain knowledge. if reality was consistent, our ideas of what is real and how the world works probably wouldn't change all the fucking time


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Anonymous 15/09/09(Wed)03:44 No. 12280 ID: 82667e

You can often judge a book's seriousness by its bibliography and index. There isn't even a bibliography in this book, not even as footnotes. So I already know it's very probably not serious. Moreover, when looking at the index I only see two references to Ayn Rand and Aristotle. Everything else is just big concepts he doesn't even discuss properly, such as evidence or reason. Nowadays, you can't just ignore what other philosophers wrote. There's been a huge production of refutations of many views that seemed at first obvious. Also, I did read like twenty pages, and it confirms what I feared: he just aligns a bunch of bold affirmations without any discussion, while taking great care in developing trivial consequences. I don't think this book is worth anything.


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Anonymous 15/10/18(Sun)04:36 No. 12298 ID: 9f223a

>>11322
the sheer amount of unprovable hypothesis on that philosophy is absurd.

Try again.




Anonymous 15/07/10(Fri)09:50 No. 12233 ID: 85377d [Reply]
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>eternal recurrence
>time is a flat circle
>in your darkest hour, a demon tells you your life is to be repeated
>again and again and again
>are you happy?

>user was banned for this post


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Anonymous 15/08/14(Fri)10:52 No. 12263 ID: 18b905

I am neither happy nor unhappy. It doesn't matter. Unless I am somehow born each time with the memories from each previous life, I will always "die" at the end. From the perspective of the current me, there is no difference.


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Anonymous 15/08/22(Sat)01:48 No. 12271 ID: 7d07df

I may be disappointed.


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Anonymous 15/09/28(Mon)07:58 No. 12286 ID: 42bd01

+ I might change what I do.
- I wouldn't remember shit so whatever.




Anonymous 15/09/05(Sat)08:11 No. 12275 ID: 0fb81b [Reply]
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Without the devil, the angel has no motivation.
Without the angel, the devil has no motivation.
Motivation is the driving force for change and for life.
Given time, a thing will change.
There can never exist only devils.
There can never exist only angels.


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Anonymous 15/09/05(Sat)11:10 No. 12277 ID: ca3ceb

>>12275
lolwut
Lucifer was an angel.
What the fuck did they do until hell was created.

>>12276
Tank Girl just goes around a wasteland doing whatever she wants. She does goals and shit.

And the villain being a protagonist doesn't happen unless the story is about them. You'd benefit from reading a dictionary.


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Anonymous 15/09/05(Sat)18:28 No. 12278 ID: 039cf1
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with the penis, production of splooge
with out the vajayjay, there is no production of babbyz
Surviving and passing on DNA is the driving force for life
Given time, a thing will change,
THE OMNIDICKGINA

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE.


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Anonymous 15/10/02(Fri)10:38 No. 12289 ID: 8c8d7c

>>12276
as such we are all devils?




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TeachingWRONG teachingwrong 15/07/17(Fri)19:09 No. 12240 ID: 5d8155 [Reply]
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how do you teach "wrong"

for all ages.

as you're aware. our world is filled with rulers. professionals. bee's. losers. that have never learnt "wrong".

SHARE your IDEAS of how to TEACH the POWERS THAT BE, what being WRONG means and NECESSARY DISCIPLINE it's method.


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Anonymous 15/08/14(Fri)13:49 No. 12264 ID: 358f52

They learned what wrong was. People just don't fucking care. It's in our nature. When we think we can get away with bad shit that gives us an advantage 99% of the time we're gonna do it. When you've got lots of power and money, it's even easier to get away with that shit so they do it more.

Sure, you get some people who are better than others at not doing bad things and avoiding that temptation, but that's why we consider those people saints and hold them up as exceptional people rather than the norm.


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Anonymous 15/08/19(Wed)17:48 No. 12269 ID: 5ba37e
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This site explains how to do it all wrong.
http://www.corestandards.org/
This is why merican kids are tarded now.
So much failure in this idiot led system.

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Anonymous 15/08/20(Thu)04:28 No. 12270 ID: ca3ceb

>>12262
Meh.
Guess my joke sucked.
OP is still a faggot.




circumventingSTUPID fearofstupid 15/08/14(Fri)21:30 No. 12265 ID: cb07aa [Reply]
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Has anyone managed a way to PREVENT STUPID from BEING STUPID?

EVER ( really? honestly?)

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2mphi5d.jpg

we all know everything. just not usually at the same time. sorry for reminding me and you. we all know everything. remember that. remind me one day.

as for robo-sapiens. we all know what they think right now. bless. i had their manual installed years ago. this is for people who are actually really alive. not the "look for an opinion" take that cookie cut opinion from the "i think im alive" thought tree made by the arab zion.

the magic stick turns around...

"was this what you thought after my speech..."

heckler: "how do you know my opinions?"
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Anonymous 15/08/15(Sat)02:46 No. 12268 ID: 66f931

u schizo m8




POST Relgion religious discussion? alittlenothing 15/08/01(Sat)02:59 No. 12253 ID: 1b874d [Reply]
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http://postreligion.com/religion/

It's like a chan but.. weird




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