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The Ketogenic Diet 14/12/01(Mon)08:42 No. 16691 [Reply]
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Hey /fit/,
After reading up on the ketogenic diet, I've come up with a couple of questions and qualms about it.
I know a couple of you here are firm adherents to the keto diet, so can you explain these please?

1- The brain works on glucose, and will have no substitute. Your body metabolizes the fats into ketone bodies, which can cause ketoacidosis if unmonitored. This state of constant mild hypoglycemia, I'm sure, leads to defects in mental function (named the "keto-mind-fog"). This is not as unsignificant as websites would have you believe, such a mind-fog would be devastating for people whose jobs require high mental output.

2- A high-fat diet means chylomicrons, VLDL, LDL, and HDL; bubbles of lipids and lipoproteins in your bloodstream, transporting the fuel to wherever it is needed. The problem is, a high LDL amount is linked and causative with vascular diseases like atherosclerosis. Conversely, a high HDL is linked with a reduction in such diseases. The function of HDL is to bring fats back to the liver to be metabolized during the fasting/hunger state. Does the (presumed) increase in HDL make up for the increase in LDL? Is it even safe to have so much lipids in the bloodstream to begin with? A high fat diet increases the expression of inflammatory mediators, which leads to all sorts of health problems, and also causes insulin resistance (the pivotal point of developing metabolic syndrome).

3- Besides supplements, you can only get a certain percentage of necessary micronutrients from a ketogenic diet, like minerals, folic acid, fat-burning phytochemicals like adiponectin. Also you consume a low amount of dietary fibre. Diets rich in fibre have been shown to reduce the risks of breast and colonic cancer. While red meat (especially the processed kind) has been shown to do the opposite. Is this trade-off for better physique/weight loss favorable?

4- Just making your portions smaller (calorie counting) combined with regular exercise should work with everyone (unless they have a medical condition - though I cannot think of any). Why should people try to adapt to such a drastic change in eating routine? It might be useful from a public health perspective to promote this in countries like the US where people drink sugary "soda"s to oblivion, but the Mediterranean diet provides a much better (though perhaps not as efficient) alternative in terms of overall nutrition. Wouldn't it be better to remove simple carbohydrates (like potato starch or simply sugar in the form of sweets, chocolate bars, etc.) from the diet in such countries?

Please don't get angry with me, I'm just trying to find out if there is something I've missed.


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Anonymous 19/04/19(Fri)14:37 No. 27895
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>>16691
>Diets rich in fibre have been shown to reduce the risks of breast and colonic cancer. While red meat (especially the processed kind) has been shown to do the opposite.


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Anonymous 19/04/19(Fri)14:41 No. 27896
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>>27895




Running a Cycle Anonymous 19/01/19(Sat)23:38 No. 25879 [Reply]
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I'm currently just finishing up the 6th week of my first cycle which is 100mg of testosterone propionate every other day, and front loaded with 50mg of dianabol every day. Ending the dianabol after tomorrow (the full 6 weeks), and I've been taking various supplements for liver protection, avoiding alcohol, etc. while using the dianabol. I'm planning on running the test for another 4 weeks, and then ending what is a relatively short 10 week cycle. I've been using about .5mg of arimidex every other day to control estrogen levels (although I may need to adjust this down after ending the dianabol), and I have had good results controlling the side effects (although there is still some expected water retention with these compounds). I have clomid and nolvadex on hand for post-cycle therapy, although I may try just running nolvadex alone, as the side effects with clomid can be a bit harsher.

Almost immediately on starting the cycle, my training capacity became virtually unlimited, although large strength gains didn't start rolling in until about 3 weeks or so, but they have since been coming up by 10 pounds or more a week (for the big 3 compound barbell movements I'm currently repping at 265lb bench, 315lb squat, 405lb deadlift). My tendons and joints are starting to not be able to keep up with the strength gains, but otherwise it's been ridiculous fun. As far as size gains, that is a bit harder to tell. Both compounds I am taking cause water retention (the dianabol very much so), and I saw size increases within days, but this is really attributable to the water in the muscles (and everywhere else really). I won't really be able to tell what actual size gains I made until after I come off of both compounds and the water retention fades.

I'm hoping to keep most, if not all of my gains, through proper post-cycle therapy and sticking with my training program through the ensuing testosterone crash.

If any of you out there have run any cycles too, tell me about your experiences, and if anyone has any questions about mine, let me know and I'll do my best to answer.


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Anonymous 19/01/28(Mon)06:04 No. 26157

OP here: Orals (Dianabol) has been discontinued for a week now, and for the 7th week, I slightly upped the intramuscular testosterone propionate dosage to 125mg every other day. Water retention has decreased significantly, and strength gains are still coming along nicely (although not quite as strong as the were when stacked).


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Anonymous 19/02/04(Mon)14:52 No. 26520

OP here: Headed towards the end of this short(ish) cycle, and I've added in Winstrol at 50mg per day as a hardener. While I won't be running it long enough to have a profound effect, I have noticed some results with it after only a few days of adding it. Injections, and Winny should be done by Thursday, and post-cycle therapy starting Saturday.


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Iron+savage 19/04/14(Sun)02:10 No. 27792

>>25879

You running UG or pharma gear? if so what brand?
Cheers get blood work done! also donate blood once off to help.




New to lifting Shinobi 19/03/31(Sun)20:53 No. 27538 [Reply]
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So I just recently started lifting/working out about 3 weeks ago and I’m just wondering if my routine so far is pretty good.
For starters I’m 6’2 about 185-190 lbs, I’m eating about 3200 a day (trying to bulk) and here’s the routine I’ve been doing- just wondering if this is a pretty decent routine and if you have any suggestions/advice.

I do bench (5x5 of) started out with 155 and today I moved up to 165 (had some trouble on the last set could only do 2 reps so I brought it down to just 135lbs and did 7 reps) then I do pull ups (I did 35 today) and ended it with 50 pushups.

On leg day I do squats (5x5) of 185lbs and then I’ll do some lightweight front squats (100lbs) also 5x5 and then finish it off with some stationary lunges (30 each leg).

I know this is probably a weak ass routine but I’ve never worked out seriously before so I’m just doing what I know. Is this pretty decent? Every week I try to do more weight, pull ups, push ups than before so I’m also trying to improve not just plateau. What do you guys think?


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Smiles 19/03/31(Sun)23:40 No. 27543

Any of the Renaissance Periodization full-body templates from the request thread will be good for you.




Anonymous 19/02/02(Sat)17:07 No. 26426 [Reply]
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Today, I started taking Zoloft (Oral). I took my first dose some hours ago, and some time ago I wanted to beat my meat. Not only I wasn't getting much aroused (i could get an erection with no problems, though), I also got a bit sleepy. I checked the package insert and it described some of those same problems.

To anyone taking Zoloft, did you get (or are you getting) these symptoms? What should I do?


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Anonymous 19/02/14(Thu)23:19 No. 26590

no need to speak to an MD. its well known that almost most anti-depressants are inhibitors for sexual activity. when I used to take sertraline (the generic of zoloft) i could get hard but took forever to cum. hope you get better man


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dr.anon!!EuBGtkZmtk 19/02/16(Sat)20:02 No. 26643

>it's well known
>implying that day 1 side effects are useful predictors of once he reaches a steady state dosing concentration

Yes ask your doctor over anons on a goddamn imageboard OP. Most important things are it will take time for your body/ brain chemistry to reach an equilibrium on an antidepressant. Like weeks. During that time if you notice things like confused or disordered thinking, or thoughts of suicide, get a hold of your doctor and tell him immediately. I'm not your doctor but are you taking zoloft for depression or for something else? Are you getting enough nutrients and eating clean first and foremost? Exercising? Socializing IRL?

It's been said that many clinicians either don't have enough training or knowledge on these last three things, or don't have enough ability to influence others in this area, and so they prescribe drugs for many cases that could be easily cured by changing diet and exercise, and making connections irl.

Fortune go with you anon.


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Anonymous 19/03/13(Wed)01:37 No. 27184
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It will take a couple of weeks for it to fully take effect. Sexual interest decrease is a common side effect, so it's often prescribed with a bit of Wellbutrin to counteract that.




Hypertrophy routine Hyper 19/02/04(Mon)10:43 No. 26495 [Reply]
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hey guys,
who's bulking at the moment, what your routine is like?
how many days, are you more for intensity or volume, etc.?


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Anonymous 19/02/04(Mon)14:28 No. 26516

I'm bulking at the moment, but not really with an eye so much on hypertrophy. I'm looking to increase raw strength, so on my big compound movements, I've been focusing on getting in the heaviest reps I can mainly. I do tend to lean towards more reps on my accessory work though. I will probably switch to a more hypertrophy-centric routine in March or April, and try to run with more reps and variations to try to activate more muscle fibers, and then follow that with a cut as summer rolls in. My routine is always Tuesday through Sunday year round (6 days a week with Monday off) for about 12 to 15 hours of actual lifting time.




obstructive sleep question raefdoesser!WBRXcNtpf. 19/01/09(Wed)07:05 No. 25441 [Reply]
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lets say I'm 178 pounds at 5'6" (or 80kg and 167 cm in lolmetric). been strength training for three years and am 18-20bf%. most on ass and midsection.

showing novel signs of obstructive sleep apnea (no sleep study to confirm): 2 immediate male relatives have it including my father.

should i keep training to reach my natural drug-free genetic potential for another 8 years (i.e. 155# and lean) if indeed it is OSA and or are there too many individual factors to generalize?

tripcodes encouraged.


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Anonymous 19/01/10(Thu)02:24 No. 25469

If you possibly have sleep apnea go to the doctor and get checked, then make an educated decision on what you need to do next.




Anonymous 18/11/26(Mon)19:03 No. 24547 [Reply]
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Hey, everyone! As requested by my psychologist, I'll start going to a gym in order to gain some muscle and distract myself a bit from computers (and hopefully cure my depression).

If the prices are worth it, I'm signing up on a gym near my house. I've been told that I'll first make a test so that I can get accompanied by a trainer so they can "see my current capacities". I was wondering, how can I start? Should I start by lifting up some weights? Should I run a bit on a treadmill?

Thank you.


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Anonymous 18/11/26(Mon)21:21 No. 24554

It's hard to know without knowing your physique. But remember that to start off by getting your blood pumping. Cardio, treadmill, exercise bike, etc. Also if you want to do weights remember that weights are used to work your muscles through repetition, so don't strain yourself by putting too much weight on. Besides that, don't be self-conscious and make yourself comfortable and have fun.


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Anonymous 19/01/05(Sat)02:26 No. 25314

They will probably have you do some generic exercises and note it down and they will tell you about any hazards, not to lift too much weight etc.

Some light cardio is good.

It's good if you pick a program, at least initially, so you have a plan of what to do.

Gl man, remember it's all about consistency.


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Reference Bear!!EuBGtkZmtk 19/01/05(Sat)04:19 No. 25316

>>24547
What does your diet look like?




Getting /fit/ for college ball Anonymous 17/04/09(Sun)23:53 No. 19565 [Reply]
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Howdy yall, I'm new to fit but from what I've seen yall more or less know what yall are doing, anyway I need to fucking strong, and in better athletic shape. As I am going off too school in about 3 months

Some information about me
6ft 6
275 ish pounds
Italian
Have access to gym a
Going in as most likely a lineman or tight end
Flexible as fuck
NOTE I am in pretty good shape, and im pretty strong, but I'm not all American strong, and I need to be.

Any advice yall? I


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Anonymous 18/11/18(Sun)11:27 No. 24315

I hope you made it, bro


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Anonymous 18/12/25(Tue)20:33 No. 25006

build explosiveness thru strength training cuz that will help with vertical jump greatly and power exertion. I'd recommend box squats (watch Louie Simmons video on this, the greatest powerlifting adnd strength coach of all time) and pause training like pause squats, pendlay rows, pause bench, dead bench,paused overhead press, etc.)




Cutting or Bulking? deathinjunex 18/11/28(Wed)05:51 No. 24590 [Reply]
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Hey bros, how are you doing today?
I've been working out these past 5 months, and noticed some results. Even though I was following a diet (about 2250kcal per day, I'm male, 18 years old, 6'0/1,85cm and about 215lbs/97kg) I didn't lose much fat, and builded up some muscles. I believe that my BF% is about 23%. My body type is probably Endomorph, since it's pretty hard for me to lose fat but kinda easy to build muscles.
My question is: Should I focus on getting muscles first (I don't really care about getting ripped, and I got the feeling that I will look like a really if I lose all my fat based on my actual muscle mass, and considering that part of this muscle mass will vanish too) or to lose body fat?


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Anonymous 18/11/30(Fri)04:42 No. 24627

Keep in mind that some of us have seen this post and aren't replying because you really should figure this out yourself.


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Anonymous 18/11/30(Fri)13:48 No. 24634

>>24627
I know right? Someone trying to get fit goes to a board called /fit/ - Fitness & Health, which is full of people who work out, and asking for advice. I don't even get what he was thinking.


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Anonymous 18/12/25(Tue)20:26 No. 25004

i have similar stats to u but been lifting for 2 years now, I'd recommend you reach intermediate status (225 bench, 315 squat, 405 deadlift) and then begin a cut. Use ur novice gains to the full advantage, when linear progression stalls proceed with a cut or even maintenance. I have reach intermediate status and am now cutting because I have enough muscle mass to support the look, chances are you wont have enough muscle mass to get the Hollywood ripped physique because u have only been lifting for 5 months




What happened to ZigCat? Anonymous 18/11/19(Mon)04:47 No. 24331 [Reply]
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I used to come here a lot around 10 years ago, before 4chan had a fit board, and I remember ZC. It saddens me to see that he's passed, but after searching around on google for a while, I couldn't seem to find any information on him? What happened? Who was he?





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